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Swagrr recognizes BK recognizing us, we're flattered. I'd say it's our first time but honestly CoS beat you to it. GL;HF

Just a note: If a OFA nation "raids" a KERCHTOGGASOUFDSPOUF nation - the entirety of your alliance will be dragged back into war.

Dear OFA, just a suggestion, don't go over 1000 infra until the end of the war or the brave and beautiful BK will boost the stats with you

Enjoy the peace! You guys did far better than Dark Brotherhood would have!

yall really cant let an alliance surrender and move on without making sure to trash them one more time? smh nobody asked for your opinion good luck with the rebuild OFA, im sure yall learned a lot

War is not a means, it is an end. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of power is power. And the object of waging a war is always to be in a better position in which to wage another war.

I was going to come here and give the canned "congrats on peace" message that I should. However, I'm feeling awake at 5:01 so I'm going to tell you what I really think.... Lasting this long is not honorable because quite frankly you were not doing anything for the last few weeks anyway, in fact, there were times I forgot you were even in the war. On top of that when you "actively" participated, another coalition member had to hit you because you could not get your members under control. Piled on top of that was the fact you did not actively participate in colo talks, the guy you sent to participate got kicked from OFA for potentially wanting to coup you for being a bad leader. Our colo has some amazing people at war and even some amazing fa/ econ guys, we could have easily helped you out. From rss to coordination, however, you choose to not participate at an alliance level, I can only hope you talked to your protectors. Your alliance is a reflection of the leadership and their ability to lead so if essentially your entire alliance gives up during war its time to reflect on if your a capable leader or not (and if not change), or disband. The path you have OFA on right now is gonna be a train wreck and you will be wasting your and most importantly your members' time. Now don't take this as me saying you're bad and have no hope and to disband, because frankly, I think alliances disbanding is not good for the game overall and I hate to see members of the community leave, what I am saying is; fix your alliance and YOURSELF. If you cant do that then disband because of the only thing as bad as alliances disbanding is alliances that kill off potential active community members by their lack of structure and leadership.

Hey, be fair. That's a hefty drop, yeah, but EVERYONE drops their fat when times get tough. If that means they're left with a dozen quality members and a remaining gov setup that's willing to continue past their beatings, then that's when they're on life support no longer but are in fact a small, but battle-tested alliance. They're probably in the best possible spot for turning themselves around and becoming something respectable. Now I'm not saying they have achieved respectability... sorry lads. Not quite there yet. I'm just saying they have that chance now, and they've taken major steps towards that.

The Order of the fallen angel peaces out of the war. We are a small alliance, created not that long ago, and we did our possible. But this was our first war, and I’m proud that we were part of it. We finished in the negatives. Enemies mocked us, and a lot of members asked me to leave the war sooner. But we didn’t fall apart. We stood up, as the beautiful alliance that we are. For the people wondering why did NPO attack us, it was because of beiges. Some members were beiging too much, and other alliances had enough. We totally understand their decision, and we solved the problem. The Dial Up War teached us a lot. -What to do during wartime, and what not to -Who we can beige, and who we can’t -What are my responsibilities as a leader, and when do I decide that we fought enough We will not send war aid to Coalition B. We will not declare on a KERCHTOGG alliance (except if it’s just a raid, because that can happen whenever). We will not help Coalition B in any other way, but we wish them good luck And good luck to KERCHTOGG too. We had fun fighting you, and it was a pleasure to be on the same battlefield as some of these alliances (that goes for Coalition B too). OFA members will finish their current wars, but they won’t start new ones. We are not part of the war anymore, and we’d like KERCHTOGG to not declare on us, as we are doing the same.and I wanna think the people who was loyal to OFA the best. The end.

Well, I made it through 27 pages. Something about TKR and NPO or something. I think i saw the word "obfuscated". I don't know what that means but i like it in theory and i'm immediately going to buy two of them. The constitution of the United States of America is 4,543 words but this is definitely better.

*Cries in net damage*

Good luck, mateys. Welcome to another episode of "We need the statpads." Starring BK. XD

I mean alliances don't have to put effort into FA if they don't want to. Again, I doubt anyone appointed you as the sole arbitrator of how alliances should play the game. I mean NPO did give minispheres however half-baked an idea a shot, and it's got you and KETOGG busy consolidating into "single-war-time" coalitions that we do not buy. There is no "shot" to give it, if it is inherently a threat to our community and our players. Like I pointed out earlier, we do not have to jump off the cliff edge to make this game fun for you. There was no assumption or ad hom anywhere through my post. It was an explanation why trying to fit RL theories and its complexities to a straight out war-only mechanics game as a misapplication of the said theory. So one cannot use nerdy IR terms, then try to deflect by stating they do not want to get into the term. I've seen the term thrown around in a sense to showcase NPO as some sort of evil/Machiavellian actor, with value judgement terms being used to describe our FA, realpolitik being one of them. TKR is still guilty of this myopia. To lay the blame at NPO's feet, is discounting the responsibility of your alliance to keep the very idea you so espouse going. You haven't "reformed", you literally combined with another sphere because it bests suits your interest, and your security. The former being pragmatic in the sense and realpolitik, while the latter being pretty much the definition of modern realpolitik under most post WWII IR scholars. You have neglected your role in the game by taking that very action, since that upsets the balance of power and leaves too much of power in your favour. NPO's response is in kind, and to state that we somehow have to be nicer and give you the advantage so that it suits you and therefore the health of the game, is again antithetical to your professed principle. Upsetting the balance of power and skewing to any one side, is the definition of an unhealthy game for everyone else. Giving you all the channels of communication, consolidation and capital of working together to plan hits, and not responding in kind, is allowing you to believe you can keep doing it. I, for one, do not believe you have the game's best interests at heart starting this war the way you did, but did so solely out of self-preservation. So this reverse ideological purity narrative is really hard to even accept, given your literal reason for entering as stated by your Queen, is self-preservation and security. Again, you'd be wrong on the death of nationsims. It has nothing to do with "realpolitik" and to reduce the death of CN down to solely this idea,a is an easy cudgel. Having been there during peak CN, and working with the folks who were in variety of high gov, I urge you to look at the context of the game and its downfall, before trying to pin the blame on pragmatism. In fact, I'd say pragmatism was the reason why some of the greatest politicking/coalitions were built that kept things exciting. I have no issues having no enemies left to fight. You seem to think I have some responsibility in ensuring people play this game to fight? I do not. If they wish to quit and go, let them. I'm not here to tell people how to play this game or exist solely for my sake. If they don't find this game fun or entertaining and quit, I for one do not begrudge them for it, and definitely not at fault for their individual choice in doing so. Once again, laying blame where it is not due, is an unfair burden of responsibility you seem to be placing on the NPO. Then I'd argue that it's best to leave the agency to the players themselves. You find minispheres, knock yourself out. You can't do it because other people don't? Well I mean that's the politics component of the game. Do you want to use punitive measures to ensure your idea of fun, is in place, be my guest. But do not complain if people choose to fight back against a homogenization of ideas. I for one, do not buy into Chaos' vision for minispheres, since the sole agency in terms of power and security lies with those alliances. Therefore, I choose to do my best to oppose it. If that's killing your game, I'm sorry, but do you see how enforcing your ideas on me, is essentially doing the same? Your ideas are inherently hegemonic if as you say are shared by a large part of Orbis no? I disagree with your premise that a large part of Orbis agrees with the idea though. I for one know an entire sphere of alliance who rejected that idea, and last I checked your side claimed they were much larger in size. So which is it? Are you in the majority, or are BKsphere larger and therefore a quantifiable majority that disagrees with your political thought? (Caveat: Political thought, not military competence or question of skill). Creating more competition again sounds great in theory. Sort of like this belief that unfettered capitalism will trickle down wealth to everyone else. I mean factually you have not given us the specific tools to ensure how your vision will work out equally for everyone else. I accept your challenge, insofar as giving me the agency to counter your premise. Rules of engagement/ enforced treaty splits and the like, will not create "fun" or balance. It creates a situation where all the rules, artificially imposes limits to actions and therefore the available political choices in this game. Again, I do not believe minispheres can engender different engagements, and if Chaos/KETOGG/Rose combining to hit BKsphere is a sign of things to come, there really is no trust that I have that you're interested in anything other than self-preservation. Again I do not say that as an insult, but a recognition of your choices and therefore, requires me to make specific choices to protect my own. There is no middle path to artifical "fun" here as that suits you best. If you want an honest opinion of how I view this game should be played? I'd suggest stop policing people on their FA choices, and give alliances individual agency to exist. Not "fun" wars as your describe, but specific reasoning to war, to politics. Give specific ideological meaning to your action. If you started this war on BK on the basis of enforcing minispheres, it'd have been interesting and different. Actions in this game that happen for "fun" is in essence fun for someone, and not fun for someone else. Therefore, robbing them of the agency to play politics is further to me harmful to the overall gaming experience. The only answer out, requires not one homogenized solution, but a myriad of actions taken by different people to keep things interesting; and definitely way more political actors than that presently exists. The small number of alliances and even smaller "elite" functioning of folks, reduces the number of options available on the table. So I mean there are a bunch of smaller/minor political changes/options available if folks want to take them, but do not expect that others would do the same at the cost of their own security because it maybe theoretically "more fun." Roquentin isn't the only one who's said that btw. I've said it countless times because I think NPO-BK solves nothing, and is an economic cost to ourselves that helps everyone else but ourselves. That aside, straight out of IQ, I sure as hell would not burn BK, or look to rock that boat, given the minimal trust with any of the other spheres with regards to combining. That's the cost of a minisphere. Chaos/KETOGG gave us no reasons to trust that their intentions with minispheres was indeed "pure", especially the former. Given that we believed that inherent connections and "old government" would be the first to use their navigability of choices to slowly build an unbeatable a coalition, we were weary of giving them an easy route to that. The two bloc policy did not have to be catered to BK. If KETOGG/BK decided to roll Chaos for whatever reason, we'd be there to defend you and that was the implication. If the belief is BKsphere was too large/ and therefore always required a combination of spheres to successfully bring it down, that is a failure of your FA to not reduce it in size without necessitating cooperation. If you have the right to cooperate with another sphere, so do we and all we have is used that right. So to claim using that right has led us to going astray, I'd say its your failure of diplomacy and politics, where you required a hard approach when you did not take actions to suitably build trust with all the other actors you did not want to involve themselves in this war. Your government failed in approaching the NPO in building those bridges before the war, and that's led to us to take the very actions your Queen has outlaid for your reasons of starting this war. Can't blame us for doing the same thing you're doing! Again presumptions does not make it factual. In fact @Elijah Mikaelson has pointed out how while he may like the idea, he's forced to seek a security umbrella given the inherent power dynamics and lack of trust he has in KETOGG/Chaos when it comes to splitting from BK. The endemic problems of Orbis are for Alex to fix. It's not really my job. I do have a job protecting my community and my allies and I'll continue working with them on those fronts. If you want to work with us, you're always welcome to approach us with ideas and if there's buy in, sure. I doubt you'll approach us, given how your government seemingly has no interest in working with Roquentin. The fact is he is Emperor, so if you want to work with us, find a means to. If you don't want to, fine with us. .At the end of the day I can't force you to do anything tbh. PS: I dislike how much of a libertarian I've become. Thanks PnW!

Years long connections are an advantage that usually is not overcome. I can give an example: person x has known y through various sims they've played together. They originate from the same alliance and that alliance has had people cycle through it. They usually work together when they are both active and they work against people they have common interests against. Swaying them against each other is next to impossible short of dramatic upheavals. A great example of interests determining PR is KT. KT was once derided as being indecisive and not fighting wars. Keegoz was in the political wilderness for losing multiple wars as Rose's leader and opposing the Syndisphere. That was his big crime. KT became popular when they began to oppose IQ and Keegoz who had joined KT and became its FA had and the leader was politically rehabilitated on the basis of opposing IQ instead and able to link up with his old connections like Sketchy and abbas once more. Nothing about the person changed much. If Keegoz instead had committed additional actions that upset influencers such as Buorhann, he would have been in the doghouse forever. The whole game with statistical might is not always representative of the population. Alliances that were on the outs in the prior hegemonic period could not be dismissed as merely having goofed. The people who achieved high status simply had the means to beat them due to their advantages and lack of willingness to break up until a renegade element did it and they had to react. PR is determined by the interests of alliances involved. It is political. What is good for the in-group is good PR. Ditching an unpopular alliance while a war is ongoing is good PR. Ditching a popular alliance while a war is going on is bad PR. There is no objectively wrong or right action. It is consensus reality in that regard. It had no political basis and it was not the primary choice of target. The opprobrium and anger was absent. It's been stated time and time again that it wasn't the overarching goal of the two to fight each other. If they believed in the ethical principles of foregoing pragmatic considerations to maintain a minisphere dynamic they would not consolidate even if it meant getting rolled. This is one of the main things being used against us, that we should have simply taken the risk of sitting out and letting the BK side lose. I'm not sure how we've exactly killed anyone off. We helped the losing side in a war and the damages are still really bad for everyone who got attacked initially. Normally the hegemonic move is to coopt traditionally op-positional and neutral alliances until almost no opposition/outside forces are left, which was previously done by many of the leaders in your coalition. I can't say it would have been good for the game for the alliances involved to get a lop-sided beat down. It would have contributed to the historical pattern of displaying the weaknesses larger unpopular alliances to make their allies leave them and perpetuating the culture of it being acceptable to treat a war as a lost cause and ditch your allies.

I'm sorry, but I really don't like this thread of argumentation. Interpreted a different way, you're basically saying alliances shouldn't be forced to put real effort into FA if they don't want to do it. Yes, minispheres put you at greater risk, but you counter that my maintain good ties. If the whole game hates you, then you done goofed (because there are actually repercussions to having bad PR). I mean NPO and BK are hot commodities, forming the two largest alliances of the games, that alone should get you into most doors where you want to go (even if your not part of this "good old boys club"). You haven't even given minispheres a chance before saying no. Who knows, you might be surprised (as an example who expected you guys to end up with TcW who was prime EMC). Also, this whole ruling class was hellbent on fighting each other for a month during Surf's UP. No one told TcW to make war plans and get it leaked, but it happened and the result was self-fulfilling prophecy. Listen, Chaos and KETOG aren't fighting together for shits and giggles, ya'll gave them a solid-ass reason to defend themselves. I was utilizing the Rochau definition, as it was originally termed, but I don't want to stray into nerdy philosophy (kindly avoid assuming my knowledge or going ad hominem). I am using realpolitik to refer to a utterly pragmatic approach to gameplay. With NPO, my problem is too much of this ideology as to put whatever puts them in the best position as opposed to what's best for the health of the game. Listen, TKR has been guilty of this same myopia in the past. I'd like to think that recently we have reformed especially with the help and new viewpoints of our allies in chaos. There is a duty to protect one's members and we all care about our strategic positions, but we cannot neglect our simultaneous responsibilities to the game environment. NPO's recent actions seem to stray heavily towards the former with little regard for the latter. I won't blame ya'll for this but we only have to look at the literal graveyard of sims before PnW (CN, NS etc.) to know how fragile these things are. If you continue as you are, you may eventually have no more enemies left to fight. And no I'm not here for the narrative, or for TKR, or for anyone in specific. Call me an idealist, but I genuinely care about the future of the game. I'm not here to sit in minutiae as you'll notice most of my points are on an ideological basis. Yes, I'm passionate about helping the game, but if my tone offended you then I apologize but I still strongly support the intent and message. And I don't believe that this action is for TKR nor Chaos, but for everyone involved to have some more fun and enjoy the game. Ok as I've said to @Edward I there is a definite chance that what I'm saying needs to be changed in order to forge the best path forward or I could just be dead wrong. I'm totally willing to have these discussions with you as well please hmu. I don't have any authority over NPO or any alliances sovereign decisions, but I do have the right to call you out and challenge your actions when I believe you're going astray. My ideas aren't a hegemony rather they are shared by a large part of orbis who has similar goals of creating more competition and ideally multipolarity. So I challenge you then (as you are me) to then help me work towards a consensus of whatever it is that we can all agree on be it rules of engagement, new blocs or whatever to make these ideals a reality. Because of the nature of this post, I don't want to get too much into the meat here, but Roquentin said quite publicly he wasn't interested in fighting BK and that maintaining good relations with BK was something important too (too lazy to find it). I'm not alleging you of ties, but I'm saying that your own constraints on your relationship with BK essentially forces you to something that is like a de facto treaty arrangement (i.e. you won't attack BK and you might help them out). As for the two-bloc policy, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that is catered to defend BK. I'm not asking you to subscribe to TKR standards. If I was in BK, KT, T$ or whichever alliance I'd be saying and believing the same thing that a multipolar world, minisphere-filled world with even blocs is ideal. Ask some of your coalition allies, they'd even say the same thing. As for your actions, you can explain them all you want but it still won't wipe the clean the watermark of impropriety (however real or fake it is). I don't think that point is getting through. We wanted to believe IQ was split, and I'm really trying to believe you now. The evidence staring mysterious self in the face is saying differently. But we both know that we can circle back-and-forth on this subject for hours with neither side giving up any edge. I'd really prefer if you take the previous part of this post to heart, and start working with us to find some fixes for these endemic problems in Orbis.

Welllll Hello Orbis, I have found my old pfp, now I am back to my cancerous self. From now on you are going to witness the true Sri Lanka 001, the amazingly cancerous Sri Lanka 001, more cancerous than before I promise. also canter and shadow is dating don't quote me Anyhow, have a great morning Orbis.

Oh I can also give an example to show the dynamic of connections helped me and show the potence of the system of personal connections between old players and its interconnection with PR. I'm not trying to say it's entirely bad but just when less treaty ties exist in general, informal bonds will have more power so we are cautiously skeptical of the preaching of less treaty ties. Adrienne's first act as TKR leader was to hit Nuke Bloc. Nuke Bloc and its leaders were close with abbas, so he was very upset about her taking advantage of the war. He would use the same connections he used for Ayyslamic Crusade to help in Knightfall later on. A lot of people in the KT/Rose coalition didn't like NB so it wasn't possible to stir up as much anger as it was mainly abbas' ties to James/Steve/Apeman and the other influencers had issues with those people. abbas before the AC war had essentially criticized BK for remaining tied to NPO and said we were responsible for them losing members and organized AC, so it was a major focus shift when he came back. All this without having the title of leader at any point. Adrienne bad Adrienne and Felkey then went after TGH/KT. This upset a lot of established players a lot further. Prefontaine came back and saw blood in the water and he had close personal ties with Keegoz and Buorhann. Sometimes they clashed but he was invested in their well-being. Later on he asked me and Partisan about warring TKR. I let go of the TJ thing and put aside AC because in the grand scheme it was lesser than whaling. Adrienne BAD TKR PR bad During the war there was that situation with BC and I was confronted on it directly to not even contemplate hitting KT/TGH even though I personally had no inclination to do so at the time. Felkey vanishes and Adrienne/Radoje repair relations with KT/TGH and their trajectory switches to fighting BK/NPO. Adrienne GOOD TKR PR GOOD This essentially means there are a number of gatekeepers and if your interests line up with enough of theirs, it'll work out. If not then it probably won't. They aren't all friends or necessarily friendly with each other, but it is easier for them to come together based on familiarity and most other leaders will struggle to match it. I'm not trying to say they're bad or anything and obviously I'm against stigmatizing/blacklisting individuals given my own experiences with it but they do benefit from murkier unregulated waters more than most.

Everything good must come to an end, I have enjoyed this game and the community that was with it but I decided that this is my time to leave the game. This 553 day long adventure has been amazing but it is my time to leave the game. I am going to tell a little story, I was just a kid starting high school, I was a nerd and I felt alone. I didn’t really have friends but I started talking to two guys and I found this game. I told them about it and we bonded over the game and a while passes and eventually they stopped playing but by that point, I had fallen in love with the game and its community. I always felt welcome and saw many friendly faces. Fast forward a while, and I am still playing this game as a Junior in high school, most likely going to college next year, etc. I started growing a bad rep though and I ended up being a jerk to some of my ingame friends. Then I decided that this is the right decision. Thank you everyone for an amazing 553 days, I have enjoyed it so much and it has been quite an adventure. I would like to thank a few people in particular (I have talked to all of these people in dms about this stuff): @Simmons#4158 He has been an amazing friend to me and he has stuck with me through thick and thin. Back when we were in Sunray 1-1 together, we were government together. Overtime we became good friends. @MinesomeMC#6969 He has been an amazing friend too and although me and him have fought numerous times, he has been great to me. I remember when me and him were just Camelot prots together and getting pissed at Sean Anthony for being stupid (He was another Cam prot) so me and him plotted against him and it was fun. We have been friends ever since. @Epimetheus#0222 When I was newer to the game, he took me in when I tried my first real attempt at an alliance and aided me numerous times. He has been so helpful to me throughout this time. There are many others but I don’t have the time to list everyone but what I will do is say this: Thank you to all of you who have been kind to me or have helped me along this adventure. I am officially deleting my nation and who knows, maybe I will return again in the future. I feel like I am forgetting some stuff but its whatever. Tl;dr - I am quitting the game

Where do I sign.

Good luck OFA. That was a long war for a newer alliance. Don't take people's barbs about how you should run your alliance TOO seriously.... remember that a lot of these people who have been playing political sims for a long time have been playing political sims for a long time, so obviously they're a little twisted. : )

Dude. It's a surrender topic. They were beaten. Is that not enough? Now let them recover and raise their heads again in pride.

Good luck on rebuilding.

From the Desk of Praggle Exorock, the greatest nation ever Greetings, Friends! As the special speaker of the greatest poop alliance, I am happy to announce that there is a tentative agreement in place which will fulfill the Fragglesan prerequisites to the begin of peace negotiations! We hope that once the terms of the deal are fulfilled, we may begin discussing terms for the peaceful exit of Dark Brotherhood from this global war. I wil be keeping you posted friends, but let's go through some related news first. Exorock is ecstatic to announce the launch of its coal proliferation programme. The programme will be a key element in the hippo's defeat, and profitable for all. Coal donations of any quantity are welcome. Join the cause, throw coal at exorock today! Hugs Praggle

Hello all! It has been a grip since I was here last, so I might as well reintroduce myself. I was feeling a twinge of nostalgia while reading my previous blog posts out of whim; so, I am back! I formerly ruled the Islamic Republic of Khevin as Vladimir Zhogin, Habibullah Sewick, Semyon Nikolaych, and then whoever ruled Harzotchka (I can't even remember). First, some background into my experience here: I was here from May of 2015 into the end of 2016, around the election resulting in Donald Trump. I ruled Khevin and later Harztochka and my nation reached 11-12 cities. That was big at the time, so I remember. I was a member in numerous irrelevant alliances until I joined Roz Wei (when Rozalia was the the shtick). I tended to revolve around the RP groups here as I frequented the blogs with the KNN (ahh good times) and my "crowd" generally consisted of Canada ruled by Eric, Rozalia, Ryas, Goand, Narvan, Rekishtein, and many others. I still remember the massive treaty web, and the alliances of BK, Mensa, GPA (before it got whacked), and others. Second, since I have been absent for a longwhile, I might as well update you on who I actually am as a person. Around the time I started here was the end of 7th grade for me, and I left from here in the midst of my freshman year of high school. If anyone here still remembers me, I was 'interesting'. I was very timid at the start, not understanding that people here weren't middle school bullies. My first post was about Islam in Khevin (an idiot 7th grader, I know). Since my departure, I have matured more and am entering my senior year of high school, with political experience under my belt as well as a working knowledge of political theory and history, which I did not have back in the day. I can actually back up my beliefs and not just flaunt pure misinformation. So, that is my brief reintroduction and I hope I can find myself back in the RP community here, as well as an alliance (please recruit me). Thank you, Emirhan Khashoggi (my new moniker)

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Please, inform me more of what was happening internally in my alliance at that time. I've forgotten all about it, see, and I need someone to fill me in. Nuke Bloc was TCL's war and he'd be sad to see you trying to rob him of the credit for his only war. KETOGG was trying to set a different precedent for wars. We made the decision to roll with it because we were going to be at war regardless at that point and trying to make the best of it sounded like a better time than arguing on the forums. My only action before Knightfall was the KT/TGH war and I have it on good authority the war planning started prior to that. My actions might have reinforced some people's mindsets but it wasn't the motivator for Knightfall as a whole and, as you've confirmed, it wasn't your motivator for joining. As for the victim stuff, I could comb through and find a half dozen examples easily to back that up. "Your side has all the active/good players", "your side has all the old connections", "no one wanted to play with us", etc, etc. You continually try and cast off the issues you face onto anyone but you. Your shortcomings and your problems are not due to us.

I mean you could have done something new by fighting someone your size. The Prince/Princess was the de facto leader and Kayser already had gotten replaced by you. TCL was pretty inactive at the declaration time. I like that you're such good friends now, but again it was a boredom war because they couldn't do what they really wanted to do. The DoW even states there is little animosity involved and there was little forum sniping going. Compare it to the level of salt. If Keegoz had said, "we're hitting TKR in retaliation for last summer", then you'd have a point. You have no argument here, though. Then it would have had to have been in planning in May. It didn't develop seriously until after. I would have to go back to check actual dates. The motivations for some individuals/alliances participating in Knightfall had to do with your actions. It wasn't my motivation, though nor anyone who was tied at the time. Hope this helps. Our group's motivations were our own. Tbh KT/TGH getting hit when they had rebuilt a month before was karma more or less. It's not about being a victim. You're the ones that like to pretend that here. I'm mostly saying these connections can be used either way. It has been admitted that earlier in the year you had agreed to plot with each other. Simple. Again. Has been addressed. Using Surf's Up when it was just a 2nd best and not motivated by any real political rivalry doesn't work, I'm afraid. There's no one to fool. People were either there or weren't. How exactly does it blacklist or stigmatize them? I just haven't seen anything to indicate they changed except for things they were fine with being inconvenient now. This is kind of the issue. People can hold things against me/us for years but I'm expected to have a memory of goldfish and for even 1.5 years stuff being irrelevant despite no real changes in mentality.

You're probably doing better than CoS... good luck in the war mates! Have fun and fight well!

Hopefully BK right now, after blitzing another neutral alliance.

Glad you're willing to learn from your mistakes, make sure to keep those members that didn't leave/go inactive and rise back up to glory. Be sure to organize, and go in-depth with all of your remaining members on things to improve on. Work on your communication, work on coordination.

its all good, no way of knowing it if you're not familiar with the subject. free crash course for a simple approach to having a good end recording: Original signal: this is the most important part. If you can have your guest adjust the microphone and do it in a room with as little weird reflections as possible that would be great. Constantly speaking into the mic as opposed to moving your face away from it helps as well. Every situation/recording is different but as a rule of thumb your signal chain should look something like: EQ: Roll down the bottom end under something like 150hz. That means applying a low shelve that brings down everything under 150hz by something like -12db , can probably do away with everything under 50hz completely since its mostly ambiental stuff in your recording that you dont use and it !@#$ with your other processes and also muddies the sound. De-essing your vocals but not to a level it where it sounds weird. Compression helps maintain the same level across the recording, bringing up the more silent parts and stopping any peaks or weird artifacts. You can use any freeware vsts off of google since you're using basic functions and most software is the same in that regard. There are of course levels to this, but use your ears and have fun.

OFA was in the war??

All the best moving forward. OFA might have had a bad war but you guys sure tried your best. I'm confident that there will be a better showing from your side in the future.

I don't hate realpolitik. A day ago I told Roq to man up and admit NPO's BSing on OWF about their involvement and say the real reasons. For example I like how KETOG didn't bullshit anyone in Surf's Up. They just said it's war time now. But realpolitik was just shortest way to describe what's seems to be happening "Yeah lets do minispehere." "Yeah!" ..... 6 1/2 hours later ...... "Yeah we didn't feel like it. IQ's back on."

So you asked BK what to think about the leaks and they said to forget about it?

As someone who's only been here a few months and is learning a lot of history from all these drawn out posts. You being the leader of BK, one of the top 5 alliances since I've started playing, aren't you a member of this "ruling class"? NPO also, from what I understand has never had a leader change and has been one of the top alliances for at least awhile. So isn't working with them also perpetuating a ruling class? What constitutes the ruling class in your eyes? Whales? Older players? Do you have a definitive definition for what makes someone ruling class?

It's sad to see you go @RyanK.

Long time fan, first time quoter here. The reason why bipolarity is so bad is that it leads to stagnation as "weaker" leaders line up with the "bigger" bloc. This allows them safety without actually having to play the FA portion of the game. When the world divides into various blocs, with various interests, it forces alliances to play the grand game instead of piggie backing on the hard work of alliances like BK, NPO, TKR and so on. The idea around it is that with there being so many self interests at play that it would lead to more drama, intrigue and conflict. Not necessarily war for the sake of war but actual politics. This would be the fun most of us are talking about. Something that this game truly lacks since you can basically tell how each war will play out long before it actually kicks off. (Sides wise) The other big problem I have with a bipolar world is that it places the whole game on a few key figures instead of allowing even small alliance leaders the opportunity to create their own path. Too much of this game is decided by a too few people which hurts the entertainment level the average member gets from it. Look how quiet the forums were before this war as evidence to support my claim. What strategic position do you guys really have in an endless sandbox where entertainment is created solely by the player base? Wars are not that devastating since all you lose is some time and cheap infra. All you are doing is enabling stagnation with this illusion of protection. I hope I explained my opinion well enough.

Thanks to Charlie Traveller, Frawley, and Elijah Mikaelson for coming on :D. In this show I released my first ever single on P&W.

A) You are right of the subhuman apparently. Wasn't my work, check my nation age I wasn't back at the time. Hence why I had no idea what you were talking about. B ) It is not Roq focused, but focused on NPOs paranoia. I know what you are hinting at and you are reading too much out of the ads . Think about your elawyering on OWF and put yourself in my shoes. Pinocchio nose, Trump, paranoia etc fit perfectly. Only one gif has been really about Roq. And that quite literally used his own quotes. Only person gaslighting anyone is you trying to paint me toxic Good job son.

Credit to @Sphinx for these first two! Akuryo: Get couped once. (In game, you could implement this as getting removed from Leader position by an Heir/Leader.) Sean Anthony: Get couped five times. Censorship: Get something removed (flag, nation description, forum post, whatever) for being against game rules. (Although tbh you probably don't want to encourage this.) Downsize: Have an admin remove a city. Red Flag: Share a unique ID. Beep boop!: Accept a trade within 60 seconds of it getting posted. Jammed: Hit the API daily request limit. Sanctioned: Have 20+ nations embargo you. (Alternatively, embargo 20+ nations, but that's not as interesting.) Quitter: Leave an alliance. Propagandist: Upload an advertisement. Waste of Breath: Make a forum post (and/or link a forum account to your nation). Missing in Action: Go into Vacation Mode while your nation is at war. Plagued: Have a city with over 50% disease. Unlucky: Lose 5 wars in a row. (Peaces and wars timing out would break the streak.) Dedicated: Log into P&W 3 months in a row. Lifeless: Log into P&W 6 months in a row.

hahahaha! Ok, ok, sorry for making you mad. I hadn't realized your entire politics and war decisions were based on how people treat TKR. An obsession indeed. At least it is clear now. In any case, with that last statement you make: 1. Either you say you are not planning to fight anyone else except for TKR, so you will never work with people that have "positive relations with them"... 2. or you are stating you will never work with an alliance that has positive relations with alliances that you may fight in the future (which is anyone but BK/Polaris?)... I see. Maybe that's why you cannot work with anyone, as you complain, no? The filters you got there are... quite strict. ----------------------------------------------------------- You are right, it wasn't Malal. The first mentions in the coalition channel about a PoW where from... Oh, Thanos and Keshav. Totally not IQ. I hope I don't have to elaborate on this? You can also see Revan's statement about "closing the gap between ourselves and TKR" specifically. As I said, TKR is your obsession, not mine. My "obsession" would be the whales, most of which were hardly in TKR. -------------------------------------------------------------- So, let me get this straight and don't even think about dodging this one. Are you implying that Chaos formed with TKR keeping its ties with Guardian and/or GOB or CoS having ties to Guardian/GOB? Because that's the only way I can see cancelling upper tier domination/protection. I won't focus on the "doesn't count part", because I am speechless on that one. xD It's wonderful how you contradict yourself though. Here you state that "there wasn't enough buy-in to steam roll mid-tier alliances". Yet, your whole rhetoric is about Chaos combining forces with KETOG to "steam roll" poor mid-tier alliances (the BK-blob in this case). And, on the other hand, you state that NPO had to intervene because the war was not balanced, and BK-blob had a huge disadvantage! So, which is it, Roq? Was there enough buy-in? There wasn't? If Chaos/KETOG were working together from the beginning and were keeping the high-tier safe, why didn't they attack the BK-blob at full force before... you know... blowing each other's military up? It's not 1/18. It's 1/28. War officially ended 3 days later, with the other side having accepted most terms already earlier than that (and the result of the war being obvious even earlier than that). ----------------------------------------------------------------- You stopped working with me 2 months before the formation of Chaos. So, stop lying and saying that you didn't want to work with me on February because I would form Chaos on April. This is the third post you repeat yourself like this with a statement that makes zero sense. Unless you really are a prophet. As I said, you didn't want to work with me, even in a short-term arrangement (although you were more than happy to do so pre-war). Thus, I was free to do whatever I wanted after February, with you having cut all communications. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Roq... The only old boy with power in this war is you. I have engaged in politics and alliances for less than a year. Adrienne is a young leader too. BK has changed 2-3 leaders during the 3 years I've been playing. If the problem is really old boys... ... maybe you should retire and get some new blood take over and open up new paths that are not based on strange obsessions about specific alliances. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Then... why did TEst/CoS start Knightfall, Roq? Why didn't we sign them to stay safe and dominate the upper tier forever!? I cannot even fathom how you believe other people think like this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- In any case, the hard truth for you is that there have been two wars that prove the conflict between upper tier alliances. Knightfall and the Chaos/KETOG war. These are actions. You can try to paint all of our leaders as evil plotters and talk about motives, relations, motivations, plans, you can look for and post logs all you want, you can talk about semantics, IFs, secret discussions, deals under the table, you can try to spin our declarations and analyse each and every word we use and paint it as you want, BUT... but the hard truth for you is that these don't matter. Actions talk bigger than assumptions and conspiracy theories. And for our case, we have two wars to mention. On the other hand... why should the rest of the world believe you! You have only words to back this up. No actions. You had one chance to prove that IQ really didn't exist and just blew it in this war. Maybe next time! See, I can play your game too. Look at some nice "arguements". Please try to address them: > IQ never split because NPO has always been talking positively about BK. > NPO has worked in the past a lot of times with BK, so it's improbable they cut ties from one day to another. > NPO signing t$ was just a way to further make "mid"-tier a safe place and for mid-tier alliances to not fight each other, thus establishing even greater mid-tier domination. It's super easy to talk about hypothetical scenarios. And I can throw some logs in between if you want. -------------------------------------------------------------- As such, I see no reason to further debate with you on whether Chaos/KETOG plotted, targeted you or whatever. We have actions and they are there. Your assumptions are cancelled by reality. And I see no reason to further debate with you whether IQ broke or not, since I don't see you going for any actions. Our assumptions are not cancelled by reality. ------------------------------------------------------------- So, thanks for the debate. You could have used arguements that wouldn't be based on prophecies or time-travels, but still, it was entertaining and fun. Good luck with your wars and relations. I wish you find new people that you can trust and work with. My apologies all my efforts failed on that.

You mean her putting up the ad I made? Glad it got under your skin. Probably should have posted to the other topic, but just to say to you. Would have much more respect for you if you'd man up and say with realpolitik reasons why you attacked TKR. Everyone likes to be on the winning side. I understand you fully. But as long as you try to masquerade it, I will pick on it. Granted your infra loss ratio is higher than ours, which however doesn't mean you didn't sell infra to make the loss smaller. I mean I'm not on the bandwagon to blame you for it. By selling you got some cash back that otherwise you would have lost. However if some people say damage gap is due to Surf's Up infra damage, then I will point out infra sales as well. Oh btw, your infra loss ratio is also higher because Coalition B has more people. We can just pick up fresh targets with high infra more often while ours has burnt away some time ago.

He trusts me? That's nice of him to say.

We are micros, so doesn't matter when we formed, and our existence isn't important to you.

"Yes we helped get our ally rolled but people were making fun of us for protecting them earlier."

I don't want to distract from whats going on here too much but it makes me smile that you refer to them as IQ too

Mini-sphere Massacare

Well done, @Mad Max - it got me and not even in just a frustrating way like most April Fools jokes.

Styled Wushu, Rozalia was a man of medium build with brown eyes and a short beard. At the time of his birth, several great portents were recorded. A azure dragon was seen rising from a well to the sky in the capital, while sheaves of corn of the harvest from the local farms were found to have pieces of gold instead of kernels of corn inside. Astrologers remarked that these were signs that the child was destined for greatness. At the age of twenty, Rozalia graduated and became known for his decency and integrity. Rozalia was recruited around AD 174 by the Green Protection Agency to serve as a civil officer in it's empire. Soon after one of the holders of the three excellencies Lord House failed in his duties and fled causing much upheaval in the GPA. Many names were put forward to succeed the prestigious position, but eventually only two remained, Oberstein, and Rozalia himself. Rozalia was a fiery maverick by nature, while Oberstein was compliant and tame, so it was no surprise when the Minister of Works Lord Don Juan and Minister of War Lord Grillick put their support behind "their" candidate. On the lead up to the results Grillick made a mocking remark to Rozalia, saying “When I said I would ruin us I was joking and people elected me, when you run people know you'll ruin us and they elect you anyway!.†All in the court felt uncomfortable at the remark, but Rozalia simply glared back at Grillick and retorted “You have long since ruined us". Grillick was flustered by Rozalia’s jab and backed off promptly in shame. Soon after Rozalia became Minister of the Masses giving him an equal rank to his enemies in court Don Juan and Grillick. The new Lord was full of ideas and changes to make which frightened Don Juan and Grillick as such changes would mean they may well have to do some actual work for once! One day Don Juan was visited by the devious schemer Belisarius who was a good friend of his and held a post in Rose country. After hearing of Don Juan's problems Belisarius smiled, saying "I have long since known of this Rozalia and he is of no threat to your position. He is one who cannot work well under others and easily provoked into rash action, make use of such traits and you'll easily ruin him". Don Juan became puzzled as Rozalia was now of equal rank to himself, and stated "But good Belisarius he is my equal in the court, how do I take advantage of these things you've stated". Belisarius looked around to make sure no was listening and with a whisper, said "Have Grillick issue an edict to reform the government with the secret goal of leaving Rozalia powerless and power firmly in yours and Grillick's hands. Mislead those in court on it's purpose and make the voting time extremely short, and if Rozalia objects then attack him as up to his usual antics to burn away time. When it passes he will rebel and you can put him down and cover yourself in glory. If somehow it fails then you can just blame Grillick, worked for me remember". Hearing this advice Don Juan joyfully delighted, "Belisarius your genius plan will surely claim me victory!". However in a moment of divine providence, no doubt in reaction to Don Juan's villainy, a great storm hit the capital and most of the officials could not reach the court to vote. The few of which that did Rozalia was a among them and he lambasted the treacherous Don Juan for his actions, of which he defended by stating, "Friends as you know I've not had much time in court lately as I've been most ill... this was all Grillick's doing! We did talk about such matters but I never consented to this". This plea did not fool Rozalia however as he has had always been full of much insight. In AD 178 Don Juan fearing that his end was soon at hand fled the capital going west in the hopes of joining up with Lord Keegoz the master of Rose country. As the news of such an incident was read out none of the generals dared to volunteer to give chase, "Cowards the lot of you! I'll give chase to them alone if I have to!" Rozalia bellowed instilling much shame in the trembling generals. Rozalia finally caught up with the traitor Don Juan at Llanera river in Nueva Granada who turned his forces around to make combat. From out behind Don Juan, Belisarius emerged and boasted, "Your nemesis is here foolish Rozalia! I'll take your head this day!" The two warriors engaged in a titanic struggle, which proved how deadly Belisarius was with his spear. Rozalia was hard-pressed to fight any advantage. After a masterful parry that left Belisarius open for what could be a fatal strike, Rozalia did not deliver it, instead turning to flee. Belisarius, his blood boiling from the battle, immediately set off in pursuit. Don Juan and his army were hot on his heels. Rozalia's army melted back in the wake of their charge, offering no resistance, as they entered Mirandilla valley. When Belisarius and his men followed behind, the ambush was launched. GPA troops spilled out from all sides, quickly surrounding and isolating Belisarius. Don Juan and his men fought their way out and ran for their lives, knowing that it had been foolish to oppose Rozalia, even with Belisarius leading them. Belisarius, meanwhile, continued to fight like a demon, but the GPA forces were merely harassing him, waiting for him to tire out. Then, they would take him alive. Belisarius fought on through the day and into the evening before he began to tire. Rozalia watched the ongoing battle from a ridge at the edge of the valley. At that point, however, two Rose officers arrived on the scene, Lambdadelta and Kurdanak. They tried to fight their way in, but had no luck. Seeing that Rozalia’s forces were too strong, they fell back and formulated a plan. Kurdanak led a small force off, while Lambdadelta stood up in his stirrups and waved, shouting to get everyone’s attention. “Hey everyone! Look at me! I’m Lambdadelta!†And with that, he spurred his horse on and jumped off a cliff to his death. Rozalia, and indeed all the GPA forces, simply gaped in shock at the suicidal strategy. Belisarius himself panicked after such a sight, and thus when Kurdanak snuck through the confused GPA forces to rescue him, Belisarius happily joined in the escape. Knowing that Don Juan was by now long gone and having received a report that Emperor Caillou with a large Rose army was coming to stop his advance at all costs, Rozalia turned his forces around and headed back to the GPA capital. Rozalia always with a finger on the pulse of matters knew that the GPA was not safe and gave word to all regions to draft additional troops, horses, arrows, and to build powerful catapults to reinforce the empire. With this action Grillick the Minister of War became most angry declaring, "You merely govern the people and their petty matters! What makes you think you have the right to do my job and call for these things? There is no threat to us from those savages you're worried about. Firstly even as I insult and mock them they do not dare attack for they know our greatness... and secondly even were they to attack we have many friends in Rose country who will no doubt rush to our aid". Rozalia disagreed heavily with Grillick's assessment, but truly as long as he was the Minister of War such things were in his realm to command. In AD 180, 0zon3 visited the Songnam Tombs to pay his respects to his late friend Lambdadelta. Grillick, together with his close associates, followed 0zon3 on the trip. While they were away, Rozalia seized the opportunity to launch a takeover of the GPA. He had all the city gates in the capital shut on his orders and he took over the floating bridge at the Anyang River as well. He wrote a report to the minsters, asking them to recognize Grillick as a traitor thereby removing him and his associates from power, in the name of saving the GPA. Grillick was shocked when he saw the report and was unsure of how to react. The minister Printer635 managed to flee from the capital and went to see Grillick. Printer635 advised Grillick to move to Incheon and call for a punitive war against Rozalia in the name of saving the GPA. On the other hand, Kalev60, Little Lloyd and Lauri Torni advised Grillick to surrender as soon as possible as surely Rozalia would be lenient if he did. Grillick pondered over the issue for a night and finally decided to fight. He did not wish to merely live a luxurious life, he wanted power. Trapped in the capital and knowing that Grillick had numerous corrupt officials within the court to aid him, and that this internal war would be pounced upon by enemies, Rozalia humbly surrendered his position giving full power to Grillick. Grillick when he entered the capital quickly put Rozalia under house arrest but he was not sure what to do afterwards. He had long dreamed of eliminating his rival Rozalia, but that could weaken his position so he hesitated. Sensing Grillick's indecisiveness on the issue Rozalia kowtowed before him and pleaded, "I know what I've done is unforgivable and the great general shows legendary mercy in not executing me on the spot. I am so ashamed I do not even wish to remain in our great capital, please general, allow me to exile myself to our most northern borders in Sigma". Feeling that this was in his interests Grillick gladly allowed Rozalia to exit the capital and make his way north. However a day later when asking minister Printer635 on the state providing him a loan for a gaudy new palace to celebrate his victory over Rozalia, he was shocked to hear that Rozalia before being defeated had not only given 200 million gold to the commoners but he had personally taken 40 million for himself which had not been returned. Acknowledging his blunder Grillick screamed, "And I let him get away without asking for it back! Why was I not notified sooner!?". Grillick gave chase to the retreating Rozalia who had already force marched over the Leon mountains knowing that Grillick's forgetfulness would only hold as long as it took for him to try to slake his greed. Several days into the fruitless chase Grillick's officer Godfrey turned to him and said, "Lord Grillick it is quite clear we won't catch up with Rozalia now... but I have an idea that could lead to us taking his head regardless". "Speak!" howled an agitated Grillick. "Rozalia is going to the autonomous province of Sigma ruled by your subject Lyrositor. As such no need for us to bother with soldiers and this chase. Simply retreat and send word to Lyrositor to deal with him when he reaches Sigma". Grillick pleased with this plan retreated back to the capital. Rozalia was welcomed in Noma city by Lyrositor himself who said that Rozalia could remain until he could move on elsewhere, remarking that such a great hero is too big to remain in Sigma. In the night however Lyrositor's treachery was revealed as he opened the gates and together with Mensa raiders he had hired, attacked Rozalia whilst he slept hoping to take his head. Before such a foul deed could occur however, Spyro F Dragon, a man who Rozalia had befriended and made an officer as he fled the capital, rushed at Lyrositor's troops slashing all around him, and twenty or more fell beneath his blows. The others drew back. But the spears stood around him like reeds on the riverbank. Being totally without mail, he was soon wounded in several places. He fought desperately till his sword snapped and was no longer of any use. Throwing it aside he seized a couple of soldiers and with their bodies as weapons felled ten of his opponents. The others dared not approach, but they shot arrows at him. These fell thick as rain, but he still maintained the gate against the assailants as Rozalia escaped. However, the crafty Lyrositor commanded some of his men to sneak up around to the back of Spyro F Dragon, and they wounded Spyro F Dragon in the back with spear thrusts. Uttering a loud cry he fell. The blood gushed from the wound in torrents, and he died. Rozalia disheartened by his losses fled further north whereupon after receiving aid from several heroes of the age was able to safely settle in the area. There he learned that a great army was being formed to pillage the GPA and remove Grillick, but to that he showed little care as such things were long behind him by this point. In AD AD 182 GPA was overrun by a powerful coalition, Rose made no move to send aid, and Grillick was heavily defeated, afterwards being stripped of his rank and made a commoner by the court for his incompetence. Rozalia spent many years from that point building his power base, doing anything that was required of him and regularly getting into disputes with Rose country diplomats. In AD 180 after much encouragement from friends, Rozalia rose up and declared the Roz Wei Celestial Empire. His imperial name was "Wushu" which hundreds of years later became the name of one of the two sports Rozalia popularised (the other being Professional Wrestling). The Roz in front of Wei, a common shortened name for Rozalia was there to help differentiate it from Wei empires of the past.