Adrienne

Haven't read this in its entirety to be able to address all points but I've said it before and I'd like to reiterate: forcing people to stay on beige is a terrible idea. Why force them to stay in beige if they don't want to and discourage them from warring and participating in the game?? They should be able to leave whenever they want.

TCW still got rolled because they only switched for self-serving reasons after 8 months of war, pissed everyone off during the process, and continued to do so during the NAP. Were you aware that even as they were switching sides, they were still trying to leverage terms on Coalition A? So, no, the how and why of when people switched matters, as does what they've done since.

You're missing my point. I'm not addressing your points on NAPs in general, nor do I wish to. I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said, as you well know, so please spare me the lecture. NPOLT, however, was a unique circumstance and should be excluded from your narrative.

Yeah, okay, no. Much as I am not much a fan of NAPs, we all needed a $&@%ing break there, after 9 months of war and the game as a whole needed to recover. NAPs were signed before NPOLT too, you know. An extraordinary circumstance that I hope to God is never repeated is not the cause of what you're proclaiming when it's been something that's been prevalent for years and people have been complaining about since at least ToT.

LUCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII OMG CONGRATS To Valk, congratulations on a very well deserved retirement. Despite our IC differences in the more recent past, I've always had great respect for you and you've served Rose through some of the most challenging times any of us have had to contend with in this game. 🍻

I did!

We only hit one group in that time period and it wasn't random nor was the NAP a factor in why we hit them. Don't get your knickers in a twist simply because I answered a question. My statement made no judgement but I'm not going to not set the record straight when this was not something we particularly like nor something we would have asked for, a fact which your coalition is well aware of. We've made little secret our dislike of NAPs and so your coalition would have known they needed to ask for one if they wanted one. Don't pretend it's altruistic when both t$ and Rose are clearly just wanting to shield themselves from who they see as their two biggest threats in the interim, given that they took care to make it a blanket NAP. As for why we didn't fight it, Ronny already answered that: Essentially, it was deemed to be pretty thoroughly in the "not worth arguing about" category. We didn't see you guys as likely to get rid of it - especially since it was basically all you asked for - and it would be incredibly pointless to waste time arguing to get it down when your side wasn't likely to budge significantly on the length either. As hidude pointed out, there's a point at which NAPs become functionally useless. Plus, we had other things worth spending more time on and wasting capital on a useless mission would not have aided that. Are you making fun of my drawing? ;-;

Yes, I'm sure it was very altruistic. Our 1 member who actually reacted there thanks you.

Bollywood asked for it.

Good war, everyone! o7 @Sval I hope you like your 🥔

Voting happens after the war ends

Haven't y'all already been doing this? Where have you been the last three years? Why else have I been raising little psychopaths to share in my love of being outnumbered? Smdh.

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I don't think you're paying well enough attention to the politics if "secret treaties" is your only take away from the CBs of the last few wars.