Adrienne

What do you mean we refused? We haven't even been asked, as far as I know lol.

Tbf, most of the bellyaching was overblown by that meme. We didn't appreciate it but we took it fairly well in stride; I just got slightly annoyed at a certain someone for suggesting it was earned and that exploded 😅

You people are weird.

He only entered VM like a week and a half ago, towards the end of the Rose war. He fought in the war lol

With the joke, smh. Get there with the joke. Good lord. This is why we can't talk to one another.

I mean, don't get me wrong, if you had wanted to agree to it, we'd have considered it, but it was also a joke. You can't tell me you honestly believe we thought you were likely to go for it regardless though. If you don't get what the joke was, keep thinking on it. You'll get there eventually. I look forward to when you do.

I find it really amusing that you accuse me of moving the goalposts and then you turn around and punt the goalposts across the field. That bolded bit doesn’t change the heart of the message, which is that you were never getting left behind. The logs show that clearly. What happened was that Morf presented an option, which was shown to be immediately dropped by ODOO leaders and we proceeded on the idea to achieve peace for you against SAIL. That was your CB, and when challenged on it, you completely dropped it and moved onto an entirely different argument. Your whole CB is predicated on your incorrect belief that TKR was going to screw you over because of a single comment Morf said in a private internal conversation which was immediately shot down by leadership. So clearly Morf’s word is worth taking, over even our leader at the time and our allies which is frankly ridiculous and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how we work, both as an alliance and as a bloc. Canbec and the other alliance leaders said we wouldn’t be leaving Sing behind and that overrode Morf’s comment. You then spend paragraphs highlighting how Morf’s word isn’t to be taken seriously, in claiming we would have ditched Rose, despite the fact the two sets of logs show us saying we wouldn’t be leaving Rose behind, both in our internal chat and to Rose directly, which I find just incredibly disingenuous of you. You were pissed about how that war went down and you successfully took advantage of the confusion of the day and TKR’s inability/ineffectiveness in addressing these concerns in the wake of Canbec stepping down to rapidly spread this false narrative that we were going to ditch out of the war and leave you and Rose behind before we were even aware of what was happening. Congratulations on that; it was impressive work. That doesn’t change the fact that we, as TKR and as ODOO, weren’t looking to leave anyone behind, period. The logs we shared corroborate that. If Rose-sphere has concerns outstanding still over this, that’s between us and them, not you. They’ve heard pretty much all of this already, as our private conversations with them were more productive and straightforward than ours with you, but if there are lingering questions/clarifications folks have, we’re still open if they want to talk. You, however, have made it very clear you were never going to believe anything we said regardless of what it was and the evidence we brought, and that your viewpoint was the only one worth consideration, so arguing with you is pointless. This RoH is not for you, but is what we should have posted last year after the NAP extension happened. Thank you for, if nothing else, finally allowing us an opportunity to explain our side of events publicly.

It's even better than that, Syra. It's out of petty revenge for a decision that wasn't made from a conflict over a year ago.

You might’ve recently seen some malicious claims about the gentle and intelligent orangutan. This slander couldn’t be farther from the truth. Orangutans have endured quite the character assassination by Singularity over multiple forum threads and Discord comments over many months, but this one takes the cake. Luckily for Orbis, orangutans are the only non-human primates capable of talking about the past, so we’re here to set the record straight. Claim #1 We hadn’t hashed it out in public, actually. Not really. You said your side publicly on the forums, and attempted to silence us when we started responding to you. We have, however, attempted to hash it out many times privately. Calling it “settled” is a stretch though, or else we wouldn’t be having this conversation now. Neither one of us saw eye to eye on what happened that day, and it became evident rather quickly we never would. We didn’t push any new “narratives” out however. What you’re referring to is a situation where it came up organically in RON, and Canbec told his side of the story there by sharing a screenshot of a detailed explanation he had provided to TKR membership. Our side of the story hasn’t changed since we all started telling it to you however. You know that from our discussion in December, when you asked about Canbec’s comments in RON because you had a misunderstanding over what was being said and thought we were saying things we were not, which we clarified at the time. Claim #2 The irony of Sing leadership accusing someone else of gaslighting would be hilarious if it didn't demonstrate such a profound lack of self-awareness. I don’t recall that we ever denied that Morf said that, at least after we knew what you were talking about. The only thing I can think of that comes close to a denial was a one on one conversation I had with you shortly after having come out of retirement. In the lead up to that conversation, I had been made aware of nasty rumors being spread about TKR and the One Day War, so I hit you up trying to unpack what was going on and what your beef with us over that war was. At that time, I was unaware of the comment that was made and while you alluded to it then, it wasn’t until a month and a half later, after we argued on the forums briefly following the NAP extension and you brought it up again with me in DMs, that we figured out what you were referring to. What we did deny repeatedly was that you would have ever actually been left behind and subjected to unacceptable peace terms from SAIL. Because as I explained to you over and over again, in order for you to have been left behind, it would have required a sign off from Canbec, as well as all the leaders of ODOO and Rose-sphere. Even if you distrusted Morf for his comment, you’re skipping over a whole lot of other approvals that would have been required - it doesn’t take a genius here to figure out that it wasn’t going to happen. But yes - the comment was made. To understand why it was though, we need to go back to the context of the One Day War and the lead up to it. While the One Day War started on January 31 of last year, SAIL and Sing had already been at war since the start of that month, after Sing had spent the month of December shedding infra on easy targets. Quite frankly, ODOO was content to sit back and let that war happen, as we had only recently rebuilt from our war against Eclipse and our primary concern was Eclipse. Singularity and its allies were losing that war against SAIL, and so they reached out to us and Rose to try and build a coalition against Eclipse, a plan Sing-sphere claimed would only work if we promised to hit SAIL first, because they claimed if we hit Eclipse without first handling SAIL, t$ would counter for Eclipse. We weren’t convinced of those claims as no evidence was provided, but Sing-sphere convinced us and Rose-sphere to enter a war in which we had no stake - a war that was going to end in a Singularity loss with purportedly unacceptable peace terms - on the promise that Singularity would provide support in two subsequent wars against Eclipse. We entered the war alongside Rose-sphere, and almost immediately shit started to hit the fan. There were rumors going around that Eclipse might enter the war against Rose, and we as a coalition were trying to decide how best to handle it if that happened. Grumpy signed treaties with Rose and Guardian to try and deter a hit from Eclipse, but then only one turn after the war started, Eclipse countered Rose-sphere and they started to go down. We were, as a coalition, then unsure how best to proceed as the war wasn’t looking positive at that point, and we were trying to determine our options on a war that had quickly taken a turn for the worse. We had a few different options: Let Rose-sphere take the loss against Eclipse and continue to help Sing against SAIL. As ODOO had a NAP with Eclipse, we were safe from their intervention and expected we could win against SAIL. But from a pure cost-benefit analysis standpoint, that didn’t make much sense when Sing had no infra left after 2 months of war and Rose had just entered the war with full infra. Have TI and Grumpy (who had just signed a treaty with Rose/Guardian) help out Rose. However, given that Grumpy was in a NAP with Eclipse from our war with them prior to TI joining our bloc and this treaty was signed in the period between us beginning this war and Eclipse entering against Rose, there were legitimate concerns over whether or not this would be a NAP violation, especially since Eclipse purported to enter the war defensively through their ODP with Knights Templar, who Rose had hit. There were also concerns about Grumpy and TI spreading themselves too thin, and what that would mean for the t$ front. So our bloc and, more broadly, the coalition wasn’t sure how best to handle the situation. Then the next morning, t$ reached out to discuss the war and our entry and following that conversation, asked if we would be interested in peace. When Tarroc presented the initial offer to us of only ODOO peacing, Morf did the normal thing - brought an option forward to our allies. That’s where the screenshot came from - an internal chat with ODOO leadership. The offer from Tarroc opened up a new third option: Peace out with SAIL and help Rose with Eclipse. Morf’s suggestion was to see if we could get the ODOO offer extended to include Rose, so that we were taking that front away and giving Rose a better chance against Eclipse. He was skeptical that they’d be as willing to peace Sing given that they had already been fighting Sing for a month prior to our entry, and he wanted us to move quickly to help Rose. Why did Morf say he wouldn’t feel bad about leaving Sing on the field of battle? Because that’s where Sing would’ve been without our entry the previous night. Sing’s position was not the same as Rose-sphere’s who, like us, had been sitting at home farming 24 hours earlier. Rose-sphere and ODOO were the ones taking the entire risk by entering the war that Sing was already involved in, so there was far more concern about Rose-sphere than there was about Singularity, which you can see reflected in Morf’s comments in Sketchy’s screenshot. Regardless, what Sing has also chosen to ignore is that ODOO leadership, including TKR’s leader at the time, Canbec, immediately agreed that leaving Sing in a vulnerable position was not what we wanted to do, and we then immediately went to work trying to ensure that Sing would get out of the war as well - whether with the same White Peace as everyone else, or with an admission of defeat and no onerous terms. But hey, don’t just take my word for it. Look at the messages that immediately followed Morf’s proposal, where you can see Tyrion asking if this is t$ trying to salvage their war and whether Singularity could be let out too and Canbec saying we could let t$ have the win only if they didn’t have onerous terms for Sing (meaning we would try and secure peace for Sing, but SAIL could call it a win instead of a white peace): Not exactly the smoking gun you think it is. This second chat where we opened up discussions with Rose-sphere (and later included Singularity in, so they were able to read all this as well) further shows how that conversation progressed, given the opening offer from Morf had changed to reflect that discussion with ODOO leadership: In short, we received an offer from t$ for ODOO to peace out at 10:55 am CST (the same timezone as Sketchy’s screenshot and the screenshots above). By 11:44 am, that offer had been extended to include Rose-sphere and Singularity and brought to the coalition to discuss and decide how to approach it and the war going forward. We together decided to see if we could secure peace for Rose vs Eclipse as well instead of trying this plan to continue with the Eclipse front. It took longer to negotiate that part, but for those keeping count at home, that means that fewer than 40 minutes elapsed between Morf bringing the initial proposal to ODOO leadership at 11:07 am, and all involved parties (including Singularity) having been relayed a peace offer from SAIL at 11:44 am. Any reasonable person would correctly find this to be evidence that the initial proposal in Singularity’s screenshot didn’t make it any further than what you saw in the screenshot. If Singularity wants to call us expressing our side of the story “excuses” and “narratives”, that’s their prerogative. It doesn’t change the fact that we did nothing but tell our side of the story, which you all now know in full as well. And there’s little doubt in my mind that Singularity leadership is aware of the fact that, realistically speaking, they were never going to be left alone on the battlefield against SAIL. If they don’t appreciate that the idea came up at all though, that’s a different story. Let’s just call this for what it is though - Sing leadership has had a grudge against TKR for the last year, saw an opportunity to !@#$ with us, and took it, using a year-old incident as a flimsy CB. Look, we get it - y'all only had part of the information on hand and so were hesitant to believe us. Now that you have the full picture, we imagine you might be feeling a little silly about this war. That’s why we are willing to offer White Peace right here and now. 😉 Tl;dr Singularity is loud; that doesn’t make them right.

Jokes on you, Vein named it.

And just like that, the lights dim, the curtain falls, and the applause echoes through the hallowed halls of The House one last time. For two months, Orbis was entranced. The stage shimmered, the cheers echoed, and the grandest spectacle in casino history unfolded before our eyes. Siegfried & Joy, the masters of illusion, defied all odds, awing crowds night after night with captivating sleight of hand. Each trick more daring than the last, each performance leaving the audience breathless. No wonder audiences kept coming back for more and selling out the theatre for 60 consecutive days. But even the greatest acts must end. With standing ovations ringing in our ears and the casino floors once again brimming with life, we take our final bow. The show was a success, the business is booming, and the chips have fallen where they may. The House thanks Eclipse, Weebunism, and WAP for sharing the stage in this unforgettable production. As the magicians vanish into the night, we leave you with a simple truth: what was once war is now legend. And if you listen closely, you can still hear the echoes of a performance Orbis will never forget. The House always wins, but tonight, everyone leaves a winner. Exit stage left. Fade to black. PEACE TERMS Agreed upon peace terms: Rose-sphere surrenders and admits defeat to the combined forces of Eclipse-sphere and The House. 3 month Non-Aggression Pact ending May 11, 2025 00:00 UTC. All alliances covered by the current agreement are to return to their pre-war colour bloc. The NAP covers any rebrands and mergers. The official war name will be "Double Down". Forum post made by Eclipse-sphere or The House. Peace takes effect immediately following this forum post. Rose-sphere will be informed at least two hours (one turn) before the forum post is officially posted. Any wars declared prior to this post may be finished by beige, expiration or peace. Any wars declared after this post must be peaced out and damage reparations may be requested if appropriate. NAP DETAILS The NAP is further defined as follows: No wars No raids No mass ghosting No shell alliance hits No spy attacks No hiring of mercenaries/raiders to hit any NAP signatory If there is to be found documented and proven aggression by any signatories, the parties involved should immediately pursue diplomacy to resolve the dispute by way of peace, financial reparations, and/or counters. The defending party's response is at their discretion, depending on the severity. The parties covered by the NAP are: For Eclipse-sphere and The House: For Rose-sphere: SIGNATORIES Signatories for Eclipse-sphere and The House: Signatories for Rose-sphere:

Happy birthday, TFP! Congrats on 10 years

I thought it was pretty obvious this was just a fun meme DoW with one of your members. Vexz already asked for an explanation last night in our GC which you're also in, and we told you we'd talk to you today when we were actually available. We've already talked to other members of your sphere too on Friday, so no one's hiding anything from you here.

The Night of Sorrows has come. The True Desolation is here. In this time of great uncertainty, we, The Knights Radiant, stand tall and fight. For too long, @Odium has remained hidden in the Rosian system. The time has come for Retribution. We cannot stand idle while the shadow of Odium festers and the Everstorm corrupts Roshar. Rose, by granting sanctuary to the very heart of hatred, has aligned itself with the forces that seek to shatter the bonds of Honor. To shield the enemy of all mankind is to wield his malice as your own blade. We, the sworn watchers at the rim, protectors of Roshar, declare that such betrayal cannot be left unanswered. In the name of Honor, we rise, fighting for Dalinar Kholin and our oaths. Each Shardblade drawn shall be a reminder that justice cannot falter in the face of tyranny. Odium’s reach must be severed, and those who would shelter his chaos shall face the storm they have called upon themselves. The Knights Radiant march not for conquest, but for the preservation of life itself. We shall see this True Desolation undone. TL;DR: TKR declares war on Rose, Arkham Asylum, Guardian, Oblivion and The Golden Horde.

There were days when the sun was so cruel That all the tears turned to dust And I just knew my eyes were drying up forever I finished crying in the instant that you left And I can't remember where or when or how And I banished every memory you and I had ever made As Orbis readied itself for the Christmas holidays, a storm was brewing across the Casino industry. “It seems the people of Orbis are just not interested in visiting our casinos anymore,” lamented Cypher, pouring over The House’s third quarter results. “What can we do to bring back business?” “I’m honestly not sure,” responded Adrienne. “We welcomed everyone with open arms at the start of the year, and then we were nearly bankrupted by some of the best card players in the world.” “I have an idea,” whispered a voice from the shadows. Silence fell upon the room as the leaders of Orbis’ casino industry looked to the source of the voice, stunned. “Is it really you?” asked Presidential. The visitor stepped forward, the dim light revealing only a pair of white headphones askew on his head, face still masked by the shadow of a black baseball cap. But deep down they all knew, for they recognized the voice of their greatest foe. “I know how to bring business back to your casinos,” Vein said. “If you want the people of Orbis to walk your hallowed halls and spend their well-earned dollars, you will have to lure them back with a grand spectacle.” “Why should we listen to you?” Adrienne and Presidential asked simultaneously, still in disbelief. “Well it’s simple, really. I may not be in the casino business, but I know how to put on a good show.” And with that, a plan was hatched. The House and WELP would put together the greatest act the world of showbusiness had ever seen, to bring Orbitites flocking back to The House’s casinos. That fateful day, Siegfried & Joy, the most illustrious act of illusionists Orbis would ever know, was born. When you touch me like this And when you hold me like that It was gone with the wind But it's all coming back to me When you see me like this And when I see you like that Then we see what we want to see All coming back to me The flesh and the fantasies All coming back to me I can barely recall But it's all coming back to me now TL;DR: The House declares war on Rose, Arkham Asylum, Guardian, Oblivion and The Golden Horde ❤️