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KT is actually signing Pantheon. Not the horrid trolling that BK put out just a day or so ago. Announcement from the Great Hippo Khan of Orbis "Hey there, demons Orbis, it's me, ya hippo" There's been a lot of you pestering our leadership in our corner of the treaty web, with rampant speculation over what moves we're making. So we're just going to cut to the chase... ...Knights Templar is awfully bad at this. I'd rank them around BK level of being bad. That's how terrible they've been. When Theodosius is a leader of yours, you know it's going to be bad. Seriously though, we're signing Guardian and Grumpy and they'll be acclimating towards our neck of the woods. Some of you guessed it right, give yourself a pat on the back, and some of you... you folks had some wild speculation going. You folks should know better by now, once you're with us - you're with us. So I won't bore you with the fancy details. (Although @Vanek26 did have some pretty cool treaty titles. Golden Griffins, Shield and Cross Pact, etc. Grumpy just didn't care.) 72 hour cancellation notice at least, if it comes to that. MDP style (We did offer to give them a rainbow treaty setup, but Grumpy men want it simple) Intel clause is actually there. Not some fake shit that some of you folks pull off and sweep under the rug. The True The Vanguard welcomes the members of Guardian and Grumpy into the fold. Do we really need sigs? I just want to get on with this game.

Ahhhhh frick yeah I can't wait to work with our old new allies in Pantheon though I'm slightly dissatisfied with the language of low gov of our new allies but it's okay they'll learn to love us! hippos are overweight welcome to the gang boiis

I don't even know you anymore.

yay

Dont let the haters get to you I was once a major dick and couped a couple of alliance's but I'm trying to clean up my rep and be a better person to the community you can do the same ❤️ I'm still a dick but I have toned it down. A bit Everyone deserves a 2nd chance

Can't wait to decom cities to tier up with Pantheon! This is a step in the right direction.

So proud to join hands with Pantheon as we work towards our mutual goals. Very exciting times!

o7

Toning it down is the biggest mistake It's better to burn out than fade away...

Just like reroll and get exposed 30 mins or less Conversely, you could pull a Shifty and just say frick it and keep being you.

You don’t need to be an economist to understand the dynamics of supply and demand.

Same here... Can we just meet somewhere in the middle?

The folks at Guardian/Grumpy are the most steadfast allies one can have. Happy to see this, congratulations guys! o7

Congrats to all involved. You've got some great new allies Vanguard

Dat upper tier coverage

Poor @Maia... She is so sick... To all those dictators out there: Don't put rebels in prison, because then you make them heroes. Lock them in a mental asylum instead.

How does Northern Macedonia sound?

Does this mean I finally get to fight @Thalmor?

Knowing how much CoS doesn't like Grumpy, i'm very excited to see this

So excited to work closely with pantheon

Wait... so we aren’t picking up pantheon? Gosh darn it

I welcome me as overlords. @Chaos - We’re waiting

A compromise -- Give alliance leaders the ability to see the embargo list for nations in their alliance. That way they can see if someone isn't following the order to "Embargo Alliance X" and instruct them to do so. Or when an alliance wide embargo is put in place, the member has to click something on a trade or embargo screen to agree to it. "Your alliance wants to embargo alliance X for Y reason(s) do you accept this embargo".

You don't need alliance leaders to be able to force embargoes on your members, just have the alliance leaders instruct their members who to embargo. If you can't get your members to cooperate, kick them out of the alliance. I don't like the idea of taking away more sovereignty of individual players and putting it in the hands of the relatively few nations that control alliance governments.

You need essentially 2 things to start a bank: Borrowers - People that want to borrow money from you and are willing to pay you interest on the loan. You need to be able to trust that these people will pay, and/or you need a way to enforce payment. Money - Either your own money or people willing to loan you money at an interest rate that is (at least slightly) lower than what you can extract from your borrowers. Also helpful: A gathering place for borrowers and lenders, such as a discord channel. A storage location (nation or alliance bank) that is reasonably safe from raiding where you can temporarily stash large sums of cash. A trustworthy staff to help you with raising capital, collecting interest, and paying interest. To make your bank successful will require a trustworthy reputation and a lot of work.

Neat! Looks fun. Of course, we won't know who the real powersphere is until we see where Polaris ends up.

I'm expecting top quality grandpa crusading memes, don't disappoint.

all good things must come to an end

Glad to see this sphere grow, mid and high tier sphere now. Nice to know some sphere is being dynamic at least.

I look forward to our joint Naps KT and TGH. The greatest of all treaties.

First option to choose for as best treaty signed 2019 : )

Basically, I don't get where this notion of individual sovereignty comes from conflicting with something automatically imposed like the embargo. If people wanted to be able to determine their alliance's policies, surely democratic alliances would be more prominent. People choose to pool their sovereignty under the government on other hand here. This is because it is not an individual nation game. It's an alliance game as Sketchy said. If you want it to be an individual-oriented game, then you should have not introduced alliances to begin with and limited cooperation between nations based on geography or something else. As long as cooperation is needed, people will unite and forego individual autonomy to some degree. The embargo isn't any more imposing than an alliance color or application process. There are plenty of non-mechanical things you can introduce to increase individual playability as RP aspects keep people animated in other games. The government types have a lot of potential. Playing as an individual nation is suited to single player games or short runs, not collaborative browser games where people are reliant on each other.

You are damn right.

Is it possible we could make a couple of changes to the city profit labels for improvements? 1. Add profit labels to manufacturing. 2. Incorporate costs of pollution/disease rate from population lost (calculated with revenue buffs/commerce) 3. Add profit labels to subways and hospitals.

What are you talking about? We are Polaris.

fudge browns

Well, I for one welcome my new ayylien overlords. Perhaps it'll be my ticket out to retirement.

I agree with @Prefontaine on this.

Submarines don't do that; they're meant to engage other ships and/or carry long-range strategic ordinance. They sure as heck can't go up rivers lmao

Now that Partisan is gone, I'm pretty sure you take the cake as the new OWF wall of text-er. Unless he returns and posts a flex wall. (not nudging or anything)

Seriously, you guys just need to stop !@#$ footing around and make those moves. Being vague here just makes me want to drop the info I'm aware of so it hopefully speeds up the process. No one is aiming to hit anybody right now. There's no threat of war at the moment. Stop being scared. You guys have some of the largest, most prolific, alliances in the game and you're purposely trying to be all cautious about it for absolutely no reason. Many of us are looking forward to seeing the new changes in politics that the disbanding of IQ has in store.

Of the alliances listed in their bloc, they absolutely have the best and most proven milcom... and BK should dang well know that; what with TKR the highest net damage of their side, even ahead of Grumps, and that's despite being firmly in IQ's range

Darn it! The Soup is just too hot!

The Soup truly is hot.

The soup is so hot.

The Soup is Hot.

I refuse to like this since Ripper refused to like Smith's and I magnum opus.

$500 million minimum? And you're getting investors?