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Prefontaine last won the day on December 3

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  1. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    Let me explain something to you, since you seem ignorant of it. This isn’t a negotiation. These are terms of your surrender. We aren’t a union and a company negotiating who gets what and such. You’re a defeated group seeking peace. Peace which is early in regards to the victors sides desires. You take what we give you, and sure we are willing to work on some things, but if we plant our foot down on something you have three choices, accept it, wait til we stop caring about it or accomplish it ourselves. Saying we aren’t negotiating in good faith is asinine. And you’re beyond imcompetent if you actually believe that narrative is going to get you anywhere. You left negotiations because you let your pride get in the way. There exists this fallacy in PnW where if the losing side gurrillas long enough the damages even out and it behooves the winning side to push for white peace. If the alliance swinging from below is motivated, and coordinated then sure it can make it tedious for the winning side. However even if the winning side is burdened some they’re still growing and gaining money and resources. The losing side is not. Take that hat into account when looking at TKR and tCW. You’re soft. Your members are soft. They don’t have the stomach for that because they’re too used to easy wins and dogpiles. Not to mention your entire sphere is being held down. You have NO allies not being covered (minus Guardians TFP). Meanwhile you’re enemies grow at a slower rate, however it’s a much faster one than you. And your other enemies who you recently rolled KT and friends grow faster than both parties. That’s you’re true problem. You have no friends not being decimated. All you have are enemies. This is your grave you've dug. Submit.
  2. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    No, I simply saw your page of incompetence and noted it as such. But by all means, go through all of my posts. I encourage you to actually read them (though apparently that is a difficult task for you) as you might just learn something.
  3. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    You reject terms because there's too much to read? You realize this is a text based game, right? You realize that the politics part comes from reading, right? I weep for any alliance that might have you as gov.
  4. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    We're a group of collectives. Those collectives have different goals, and even inside of those collectives there are different goals as well. There's more than one reason behind it, and depending on whom you ask you'll get a different reason. In the quote of mine you have I even said "for me, maybe not for everyone". It's the main reason I'm in favor of it. If you ask me why, that's what you'll get. If you ask someone in IQ you might get "so you all take x damage" etc.. etc.. You can call them whatever you like. The classification is irrelevant, they're under the same blanket regardless. As I previously stated whether the VM was legitimate or not they're all subject to the same result. Since there is no differentiation between actual dodgers and the ones you don't wish to see labled as such, there's no need for a differentiation is our classification of them; the result is the same. It'd be like saying all people who have last names starting with the letters A-M get $50 and all people who have last names starting with the letters N-Z get $50. We're just saying all people who have last names starting with A-Z get $50 because there's no reason to separate the two as they are beholden to the same outcome. It is your alliance, you are free to keep them at war as long as you want to protect yourself from labeling those nations as war dodgers.
  5. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    Nah, I would never be in support of something like that. Doing it or having it done. For me, maybe not everyone, the point of enforcing VM-ers selling off infra is because is to send a message that you can't hit that VM button and come out unscathed. I understand it does get used legitimately, I had a vacation I went on during this war and had I been needed to be active during that time I would have likely hit VM myself. Should people be punished for legitimately using VM during a war? No. But I'm not going to dive through 40ish cases of VM to determine which are legitimate or not. Had the amount of VM been isolated, there wouldn't have been a term. But on the scale it was done everyone will have to pay the price, even the ones whom don't deserve to. Nothing is there to keep them from instantly buying everything back if they can. Feel bad for the person who has to verify that they did it though.
  6. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    We were definitely below 700 for everything after the second round, with exception of maybe the last few days as people started rebuilding from beige.
  7. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    You were apart of the coalition that instituted a 700 infra average cap on TEst during papers please. We were also told anyone in VM that tried to avoid it would have to comply. It's not new.
  8. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    It's more everyone in the alliance should have taken damage, we're happy to keep going until that's accomplished. Had a handful went into VM to avoid fighting it would have been one thing, but with the numbers whom have, it needs to be addressed.
  9. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    Our side doesn't care if they're legitimate or not. Same damage for all.
  10. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    The winning side doesn't have to negotiate in good faith, that's what the war was for. dodge /däj/ verb 1. avoid (someone or something) by a sudden quick movement. So, did they not avoid the war? EDIT: I believe we offered to call them "Heroes" to make you feel better in the negotiations.
  11. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    Yes, it can be. You're a gov member of an alliance who's only meaningful tie is being protected by the Syndicate, an alliance fighting on the side you are currently criticizing for their terms. Not to mention the side which will possibly be the top sphere post war. Putting you're opinion out there can be a dangerous thing if it goes against the powers that be, or popular opinion. First thing I did when I saw you posting you're highly misconstrued statements which were pieced together poorly, was look at your alliance. I looked to size you up, to see if you were worth hitting. Thankfully, for you, none of your alliance nations are in my range so I lost interest. But now your alliance is on my radar, are probably on others as well. It's what happens when you come here talking the nonsense you have. You get noticed, and not in good ways. There is zero parallel between a bot which patrols the trade market for mistaken trades in to profit off of those mistakes and BC being held accountable for leaking sensitive information. You're flat out wrong. Bot's for that sort of advantage are widely frowned upon in these sorts of circles, and to claim we can simply "tell our members to take 5 seconds", is asinine. What about other nations? What if a member of your alliance lost 100M worth of resources by mistakenly clicking to post a public trade when they meant a private one, and an automated bot sprung into action to snag those resources before the person could delete it seconds later? Perhaps we just want the removal of them all together? Regardless it doesn't involve you, because it's what we want. It also doesn't have any connections to BC. You leak intel, you run the risk of paying the consequences for it. One's a conscious choice, and one's a mistake.
  12. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    Again, how is this a double standard to something involving BC?
  13. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    I'm not following, how is holding a few members of BC gov accountable for the leaks anywhere a double standard to this wars negotiation?
  14. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    And neither of us are gov. My comment was a joke at the absurdity of of viewing the present terms as harsh. Stick to your missile obsession, you'll fair better than playing in the deep end.
  15. Prefontaine

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    This thread has nothing to do with BC.

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