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Last recorded log of fanatic cult leader, Thrax (self declared spaceman), to his personal journal: I fear my time has come. The Koolaid fountains have dried out, and our reserves are dangerously thin, almost empty. The people, my wangs, they have grown dissolutioned with my orders to limit Koolaid consumption. Already so many have abandoned ship but those who remain have become starved, the withdrawal symptoms have driven them to madness. Those who left, they called me a liar, a cheat and a false prophet. But those who are left thirst for the Koolaid. My sweet wangs, my followers, I fear they may soon come calling for the Koolaid pounding through my veins. With nothing to wash down the bagels, they become oh so thirsty... Very well. The time has come to feed my sweet wangs. Oh sacred Bocephus, first of his name, give me strength. I only wish ripper would sit upon my lap one more time before I go. One final time: I am become Koolaid, destroyer of Wacky-mallows. Peace. In case you didn't realise it, CoS is disbanding. We want to thank our friends Soup, Seven Kingdoms, The Knights Radiant and Sanreizan for a great time. We couldn't have asked for better allies. We also urge all the participants of the war to end things before there are any more casualties. CoS disbanding came as a direct consequence of this war and nobody should take war to the extremes of destroying a community. We wish all the best to those still fighting and hope you end this thing sooner rather than later. To the ex government members of AK, we thank you for fueling our alliance's existence purely through sheer will and spite to prove you wrong. It was most beneficial, now however since you're also gone our spite dried up. Guess that's the way the cookie crumbles. Cheers all! Tldr: despite our best efforts, CoS is no more.

General Secretary w00tles of Hobotown ordered an airstrike upon your nation of Badlands. The attack was an immense triumph. General Secretary w00tles's forces lost 0 aircraft, while your defenders lost 0 aircraft. You used 0.00 munitions and gasoline defending the attack. The attack destroyed 11.10 infrastructure in the city of Step 4 and $996.90.

I’m a little confused that this is even a debatable topic. OOC is OOC and IC is IC. When you make an attempt to hurt someone OOC it’s not okay, even for IC reasons. This is a game. Some of you are taking this game a little too serious and seem to be forgetting that there are actual people behind the keyboard. The BKnet attack was no bueno.

Hey all, Just letting you know that House Arryn has merged into Ming Empire All members will be transferring over to the Ming Empire. The People's from North remain always in the North.. Thanks,

Aren't you the one they voted out of leadership?

As someone who has spent 100 years fighting GOONS, my father fought GOONS, and my Father's Father, and his Father before that. And every time they sucked. I must confirm. Absolute gobsh**. Never seen a more morally debased, craptastic fighting force in the entirety of Orbis. Been fighting for 90% of my life here and I can't believe they would go on like this. -Noctis in 5 minutes.

hi! as the rules state that going into vm with a bank for the sole reason of protecting it from raids is bad, i am not protecting it, i am stealing it, so i am not bad

The fact that this thread has been up for 30 minutes and he hasn't responded leads me to believe he's been suspended again.

First, I hate these forums quote ability. Second, as I’m one of the main coordinators on our side - I can safely say there were only 2 terms and the usual surrender request back towards the beginning of the war. The terms were not set in stone. No, there were no talks about prolonging the war. We initially imagined it’d be a 2-4 month war considering the size of the AAs involved, then we’d just separate and move on at the conclusion of it. There were no talks of merging Chaos and KETOG. We honestly paired up due to the numerical threat presented that got leaked out. The only reason why we hit TCW and BKsphere is simply due to N$O at the time adamantly denying they were a part of it. We took them at their word. But TCW/BK at the time were hit because it was blatantly in our face of what was going on. However, no. We had no plans of grinding them down with the goal for them to lose members. Never in any of our veteran leadership’s history was that the goal in any wars we were involved with. Our goal was simply to kick your asses, burn pixels, then let it go. We had no concern over whether you could rebuild or not, never crossed our mind. That’s too detrimental for the game when you want to cripple alliances like that. If you folks managed to store funds to rebuild swiftly after a war? Fantastic! Game moves on. Third, in regards to BKNet, some of us are familiar with how it works. The timing, accusation, etc. just seemed all too suspicious. @Alex confirmed our suspicions. No one hacked @The Mad Titan. There’s a thread in Moderation Support you can read to get further info on that. Its not the fact “we didn’t care”, we do. Anybody would care if there were individuals who had the capability to hack into another player’s account. Especially @Alex would care since that affects the confidence of the player base with the security system. We just don’t care about players trying to pin it on someone else without verifiable proof in an attempt to character assassinate them.

Hello Orbis, Raoul Duke here, Co-Co-Leader of The Horsemen and verified compulsory beiger. Glad to be a part of this nonsense again and looking forward to blowing up at least 14 more imaginary tanks before I over-extend and lose my illusory air force. But What kind of quagmire is this? Both sides appear to believe they are fighting for the existence of the game. Both sides love giving orders and pretending they are General Patton. Both sides believe the other is the villain. Orbis has become Earth without the real smell of blood or the real pain of death (full disclosure: I've never died but I have seen it. Looks unpleasant.) As always, this could be settled with a virtual handshake and a mandatory "good game" but the powers that remain will continue to whip their followers into a frenzy and demand allegiance and compliance for some goal which is never really defined. This isn't WWIII. This is a group of boys (and maybe 4 chicks) who are using their thumbs or index fingers to do the same thing every politician on the actual earth does: Manipulate, spin and control. Chill out you savages. Roquentin isn't the Great Satan. Adrienne isn't the harbinger of the apocalypse. We're all just people pretending to blow each other up for stats and pride. Alright I have to go air strike UPN for some reason.

I disagree. As an example: The only people who can be critical of GOONS (that actually matter to me) are GOONS membership, GOONS gov, a select few alliance leaders/allied leaders. In that order. Interstellar did what they did for the good of their membership. In every interaction I've had with them they seem to be intelligent and have enough foresight to see what would happen to their community in a prolonged conflict since they don't have as strong as a communal tie as some other alliances do. Could it be perceived as shitty by the Immortals? Absolutely, but to think wanting your ally/protectorate (who isn't, by definition, required to fight in your wars) to go into a conflict knowing full well it will likely mean the end of them as an alliance isn't being a good friend. GOONS would never force a protectorate into a war, @hope brought up similar issues to me/gov and I told them as such. Forcing people to come to a decision quickly also impairs their ability to decide with clarity, and that seems to be what happened here. Interstellar rushed to a choice out of fear of looking disloyal, Immortals is pathetic for ever putting them in that position.

This nation stole the bank of his former alliance (Weebunism) and entered VM mode while trying to flee with the contents on him. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=164832&display=bank

Hi, I'd like to suggest adding an option to select which cities you want the mass infrastructure to be applied instead of applying it to every city. Maybe something like in the picture below would be great. @Alex, also, just to put it out there, is there a reason why there is no mass land purchase?

@Zygon no pressure but if you mess up we honestly will coup you too.

Regardless of how careless Leo might have been with bot security, that doesn't excuse or justify using it to kick members. I'd like to think that we as a community can avoid malicious use of tools and forcing people to spend lots of time on security measures to prevent malicious use. A certain level of OOC trust and respect on this would benefit everyone.

in the same way Church of Atom "acted hostile" to warrant a demand of 7 bil in reps? Get off your high horse.

Not happy to see this honestly.. best of luck wherever you may roam.

Thank god we have 7 different coalition servers intertwining and overlapping. The joke's on you- the server that leaked happens to be 1/7 in content where I come across as an angel and a voice of reason. Still on my moral high ground. Up yours!

How about we get back on topic about how BK faked being hacked to try and get the game rolled back pre-blitz

I find myself in an odd position. I am a coalition leader in Coalition A but I like Jazz and a decent chunk of GOONS. Please send help. Interstellar’s thread seemed like the perfect place to put a SOS.

i could have sworn we already went over this and agreed that bots preforming in game actions were against the rules and any future us of them would be harshly punished? is that not why this text was added to the captcha page? " Your account has been randomly screened to verify your identity as a human. This measure is being taken due to the presence of "bots" and "scripts" that some players attempt to use to cheat. "Bots" or "scripts" which play the game for you are strictly against the Game Rules. We apologize for causing this inconvenience. Once you have verified your identity, you will be redirected back to your previous page. "

Any bot that automates in-game actions (such as war declarations, bank transfers, baseball etc.) should be prohibited. Any script that accumulates and/or parses data from the game should be fine. A hard line on this is probably necessary to prevent rules being bent.

Maybe more in the future

As of 5:58 PM GMT, The Galactic Republic has collapsed due to a coup orchestrated by Me and KingArgent. We hereby declare independence against the forces of the CSO and other such alliances. This coup was not supposed to happen today, but unfortunately actions from our government rushed the move. This was a preemptive move for the reasons to avoid allying with the forces of Opus Dei, and due to the loss of control in the alliance, as Barbosa had slowly been removing us from discord affairs that normally even as FA, we should be informed. So anyways, we are getting attacked by every single micro who says we are illegitimate. I have one message for them. We will never be oppressed, against any odds, and we will never give up. Peeled Turnip and KingArgent10

According to popular opinion on discord, we are bad at fighting. The worst!!!! even. Discuss. https://imgur.com/OQYHS12

An Announcement From The Grand Administration Of The United Fronts The United Fronts, after weeks of deliberation, has come to consensus regarding the current war. United Fronts refuses to cower in fear while the rest of Orbis fights for it's freedom from the evil clutches of Opus Dei, United Fronts refuses to stand idly by while her allies fight for Orbis' safety and integrity. The acts committed by Opus Dei are nothing short of despicable, their disturbing lack of morality and urge to purge Orbis of what makes it unique is disgusting, and it's lust for power make it a threat to every alliance and nation who disagrees with their wayward philosophy. The world of Orbis needs all the help they can get in this fight, despite our small stature and lack of influence we intend to fight to our last breath alongside our allies and friends to ensure the future of Orbis is what we make. We may not be the most important, skilled, or sane alliances, however we have the determination to fight to the bitter end in this struggle. The action of staying neutral is as evil or even worse than the goals of Opus Dei and we refuse to be seen as cowards and war-dodgers, no longer is joining the war a choice as it is a necessity to ensure Orbis in it's current form survives. As Opus Dei's clutches on Orbis tighten and their true motives reveal, The United Front has decided to join sides with Orbis' freedom fighters against the scourge that is Opus Dei. The United Front refuses to stay in the dark and hereby declares a state of war with Opus Dei. No longer will we wait for things to blow over as it is our time to strike. See y'all on the battle field. tl;dr: The United Fronts declares war on Opus Dei

Forum Name: Cathy Link to post: Reason: This not the first post of this person, but I am in phone to gather all the posts, using the whatever is called: nazty, all the time to address the "fashies", is clearly a "go around" with the German Party between 1936 - 1945. Plus, the awful way to write, that even an email filter can considerate it as SPAM, that costs to the non-native english speakers to understand what is saying, is just a Big no. And clearly the person is not willing to write like someone that got education in a school. I believe that, if most of people gets corrected by using any way to express the root word, this one should not be an exception. And should write properly in a forum where everyone has right to understand what is trying to say (even if is non-sense).

Goodbye CoS! You will be missed for sure. May Bocephus guide you on your next journeys.

Shame to see you disband, good luck whatever you choose to do

Damn, I loved the flag

>The Galactic Republic has collapsed due to a coup cackles evilly

To me, the answer to "How do we stop people from using external software to improve access to alliance banks?" is pretty clearly, "Improve the in-game access to banks so people don't have an advantage by using external software." Otherwise, you're just going encourage people to build better and better scripts to try and evade whatever limits Alex sets up to counter the previous generation of automation. One improvement would be to let an alliance set a daily allowed withdrawal amount from the bank from users that don't have full bank access.

When you realize that NPO defending bots is not a fight to automate more some aspect of the game but is a fight for their own life

Not how the rule works. Shortly after it's inception a guy did basically this to Syndi and it was returned. Also you are hiding it from raids, as there are various people I could ping right now if you weren't hiding to raid you. ?

The alliance known as the Church of Spaceology hereby surrenders to the combined forces of the Memesphere Coalition, aka Coalition B. Upon the announcement of our surrender no members of Church of Spaceology or members of the Memesphere Coalition will declare further wars upon each other and any currently active wars will carry on to their full conclusion. Furthermore, The Church of Spaceology, with its wise and ancient members, remembers the era of Clarke and his infamous actions regarding monetary reparations at the end of a global conflict. Having searched deep in our memories and pondering the truths of this era, we have come to a conclusion and must admit with full confidence that Clarke did nothing wrong. Signed for CoS: Bezzers Redarmy Pasky Joe Stupid Durmij Signed: Memesphere Coalition Primary Memesphere Coalition representatives: Aero tldr: CoS withdraws from the war and the Coalition A forces. We wish all the best to all the remaining fighters.

Just pretty much echoing everyone else here at this point as I think my stance is clear. Automated in-game actions should be against the rules. I'm not even sure why we have to have this conversation, honestly. The game is meant to be played by people, not scripts. I also agree with Zephyr about removing the API all together at this point. The only part I'm willing to overlook scripting is with mass messages. I could care less if an alliance has a recruitment bot, that has been a mainstay of nationsims for years.

I declared to get loot, and I was confident that I would win against zero soldiers, so I decided taking the time to run some quick tests was an acceptable risk. I was of course testing to see if I could get an immense victory with minimum soldiers versus zero soldiers, like with ships. Rest assured that the war isn't over, and I plan on fighting valiantly now that my few field tests are over. And as such am not slot filling. Thank you for your concern in my wars. I can rest easy knowing that good men such as yourself are combing all wars looking for evil doers.

Greetings Friends!! It's time to award the first installment of The Fraggle Billion Dollar Giveaway!! All entries have been reviewed by the Creative Fraggle Division and a decision has been made. Let's have my friend, Red Fraggle announce the winners. Thanks Gobo!! Remember when I tried to frame Wembley for your murder? No? Good. Now onto the announcement. The first 100 million is going into The Fraggle Chaos Bank. The Creative Fraggle Division decided to go a different route. One billion will be given away, but in a different way. Let's have our friend Wembley explain it to you non Fraggles. Greetings Friends.....wait you framed me....you're such a Fraggle-Hole. I refuse to take part in this...... Greetings Friends! Boober Fraggle here. Wembley is such a pain. Set him up for one murder of Gobo, and he takes it to heart. Now onto The Fraggle Chaos Bank Grants. To be eligible for Fraggle cash, your nation must commit to one of the following themes, as well as The Fraggle Concept. Let's have our friend ChuChu Fraggle explained the Fraggle Concept. Land and Nukes. That's all. Every cent you get, legally, or illegally goes to either land or nukes. Nothing else. Back to you Wembley. No! I quit. Fraggle-Holes. All of you. Once you commit to The Fraggle Concept, you will select one of the three nation themes. 1) Dinosaurs 2) Alf 3) Punky Brewster Any nation willing to embrace The Fraggle Concept, and have a great theme will be greatly supported and awarded. Now let's check on Wembley. Fraggle-Holes!!

Purge war slot fillers everywhere if you ask me, but I don't know anything about that whole situation so I won't comment but perhaps you should bring it up to moderation. However this BK/Acadia shit is obvious cheating, no simple way to say it.

I think any bots that perform in-game actions should be against the rules, whether that's moving banks, trading, sending out recruitment messages, declaring wars, attacking, etc. Notification bots are ok I suppose.

That's absolutely wrong and ridiculous, and here's why: There was not a security flaw with the website. A user chose to link to a city image from a sketchy website which was identified by anti-malware software as malicious. Mostly likely, it was malicious in that it attempted to infect the user's site with a trojan computer virus. I determined that there was no reason to believe that the user did this intentionally, and that most likely it was the result of looking up city images via Google Images or similar and copying a URL to an image from a sketchy Vietnamese website. We already have proof that the user who was "hacked" had given their credentials to a banking script that was configured to make bank withdrawals and kick inactive users. Sure, another player probably abused the script UI to get the "hacked" player's nation to do some things that weren't intended when the script was setup, but that's the fault of whoever made the script in the first place and the player who allowed their credentials to be used for it. There's no evidence to suggest that the player was infected by a trojan virus which was used to screw up their Politics & War nation. It's also entirely ridiculous to think that someone is creating trojan viruses and spreading them through the site to infect user's computers and get them to withdraw bank funds and kick users from the alliance. Like, completely absurd. If you were going to commit that much time and energy into "hacking" the game, why would you do it in this manner? Why wouldn't you just target my account and use it to generate whatever you wanted, or make a direct attack on the site? You're insane if you think that these things are related and someone went through this much effort to commit such meaningless, traceable, and reversible actions in-game. There is no breach of security. Your password is not compromised, and all passwords are stored using the latest hashing algorithms. Believe it or not, Politics & War is set up very securely, thanks to ss23 who has far more experience than I do on the matter. For example, the forum isn't even hosted on the same server as the game so that if there was ever even a forum software vulnerability, it wouldn't impact the game whatsoever. You are spreading panic and false rumors, either out of stupidity or plain malicious intent to hurt the games reputation through fearmongering.

Love you guys, good luck wherever you guys go

I think we can all agree that proper and objective documentation of PnW history is a pursuit that is right. The wiki isn't or at least shouldn't be a vehicle for propaganda, agendas, or excessive bias. As someone who has been interested in natsim history and developments for a long time, seeing a wiki page like this: https://politicsandwar.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Leak_War is very concerning. Forcing the name of the global so soon isn't a great thing to do, especially assigning such an inflammatory name such as, "The Fash Bash Festival." Describing any side of the war in any positive or negative light is a sign of bias and strays from objectivity. Describing the sides as"The long antiquated empires" and "scrappy young rebellions" is an example of this. Needless and propagandist conjecture such as, "Hoping to take the power vacuum that was held by the now-defunct coalitions," also has no place on the wiki, nor does the complete redaction or corruption of facts and events, many of which are completely missing from the linked page. I'm no fool and realize the identity of those who have done this. They are those who have the self proclaimed objective of destroying this game and forcing many off it, but in my honest opinion, corrupting the objective documentation and history of anything is an act most foul and natsims deserve better than that. It used to be that documentation on the wiki on globals was generally neutral and objective, and I do not want to see any group strong arm their propaganda into any article, at least not to this degree.

@George The face you make when you're found innocent

Alright, Sorry for the late reply, i've been on a posting restriction for two days. Anyways getting right into it I did not have any back door whatsoever, before i left bk i had money in an account i never withdrew, BK neglected to remove it so i took the opportunity to withdraw it using the normal methods. Essentially just like anyone else in BK, I logged into my account, went to accounts, entered the amounts and withdrew. Not once did i “breach” security. BK did not remove my funds or block my account from accessing it, any old member of BK with an account can also do this (and have in the past). (same account ive always had btw) I never logged into Leos account, the backend banking system logs into Leos account via a server, this accusation i'm not going to spend much time on as Alex can check IPs. This argument is lolzy, by Leos standards we need to ban every BK member I never touched PnW or its backend system when pulling the money out, therefore Alex has no jurisdiction. He set a precedent of this forever ago so good try I was not going to respond to this but figured hell with it. The idea i hacked someone made me laugh so hard, I don't have that kind of ability, hell i've even had to ask some of these NPO people responding for help with some semi basic coding / database questions through time. On that note, grow up, it's clear I did not break any rules. It's quite clear this is to further your agenda on kicking players you don't like out of the game. I even returned the stuff after your misfortune. I've forwarded all needed proof and ss to Alex, he can make the call. Additionally @Alex please read my discord dms, they include personal info i wont be posting here

Congrats on the long fight and the well earned peace!