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This is regarding some bank activity that simply doesn't makes sense between the nation of Veins and his always changing AA. This is specifically focused on the 6 "test" transactions that happened on 1/1/20 from 2:53pm-2:57pm. To me, it seems like the nation was able to generate $15 billion out of nowhere. Veins is a nation that is disbanding and creating new AAs every other day it seems, which is suspicious activity in and of itself. However, with him doing that, in his bank activity, you should see that amount of money reflected in his history as he moves it between his nation and is AA bank at the time. Trust me, he isn't keeping that kind of money stashed in his nation. He's a raider, and therefore is usually getting beiged and looted, but if you view those wars where he did lose, what gets looted from him is basically nothing. He keeps all his funds stashed away in his AA's. Is it possible to investigate where this money came from? His trade activity doesn't account for it, so I'm stumped. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=146015&display=bank https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=146015&display=trade If there's an explanation, my apologies for the wasted time. I just don't understand where those billions of dollars came from, especially since you should easily be able to track that money through all of the AA's he creates and disbands. Dryad is the other nation that works with him on these temporary popup AAs (again, I don't understand the point of popup AA's unless there is some sort of exploit that can be used to do that...), but his bank records don't show that kind of money either: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=146719&display=bank

You cant win the mythic vs fark sphere war so now you're trying to report me for stupid shit? ggs, you played yourself.

It came from the bank...

Ok the truth is ouyt, Vein and Dryad, his buddy, are Poo and Ar Gud from the old Nova Riata alliance lol

I agree, Vein is too powerful, we should ban him now.

Or you can be good at the game and raid 15b lol. It'S iMpOsSiBlE fOr A mIcRo AlLiAnCe To HaVe 10 tImEs As MuCh MoNeY aS mY bRoKe aLlIaNcE dOeS, tHeY mUsT bE hAcKiNg

This is like the worst reason to lose your pixels. If you don't mind going to war, lose all your stuff and wanna make a point then pick a side in the global and actually impact the game. Now they are just getting nuked and raided by a few people with no impact on the game at all. And like wow, so brave to fight the 10 man evil army.

Maybe you dont have anything to lose, Fark sphere certainly has lol. The thing is that you wont keep a couple hundred fark sphere nations from getting high infra because 10 enemy nations are playing terrorist. If it actually gets to a point where Fark Sphere has nothing left to lose then gg - you have now lost all you had to a mere 10 people.

All of you don't understand high performance raiding. It is absolutely impossible to beat us because we have nothing to lose while it's also impossible to stop us from fighting back and pretty difficult to stop us from profiting. That being said the reason we raided the DH bank and why I raided fark right after was for profit alone, not out of a grudge. They declared war on us as a response which is completely fine and naturally we are retaliating and do our best to be as damaging as we can. "the longer they’re trying to destroy my ally" is complete bullshit as we didn't start this beyond a reason than loot and are now not the ones keeping it going. In fact Vein has approached Raoul Duke for their surrender giving them a way out if they want to. I understand they don't want to accept defeat but we are certainly not trapping them in.

Wtf, just noticed you have 1700+ days and are the leader of WTF. How'd this happen. On a serious note, maybe you should dm me next time and I could teach you a thing or two

Vein withdrew from his alliance to the nation and then back into the bank. You can see the amount withdrawn and then deposited is the same in both the case of 10b and 15b so there is no 25b being generated as that money comes from the alliance and goes back into it.

And this is how the world ends, not with a bang, but with a GOONS - Mythic MDoAP.

Nintendo. Please learn how to play the game before reporting others. Thanks!

Relax, they're kids playing on a school network as part of their Social Studies class. The teacher contacted me and we set it all up. I set them all as Verified so that they can interact with each other, and with the hopes that I wouldn't get a bunch of multi reports.

I have said this before but we aren't dragging out anything. They aren't ending the war because they don't want to end the war, stop pushing it on Mythic. Our Horsemen embassy is extemely active with daily interaction and a friendly tone, to the point where we have nominated and voted for the Horsemen as most honorable alliance in the yearly awards. Also, people get too obsessed with labels for an outcome, this applies to you wanting white peace and also to Vein wanting a Surrender on Fark sphere side. To me it means nothing, what matters is ingame material in the form of infra, wealth, time and peace terms affecting the game. Regardless of the label that will be put for the outcome of this war, Fark certainly has only lost in this interaction while Mythic will walk away with some loot and a good time. And you are correct, this entire situation is extremely rigged in our favor.

I dont get your question. Are you asking how the bank received it?

I talked shit about it, and not in a public space like the forum. But yeah, go ahead, keep shit talking OD.

Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Noctis Anarch Caelum, and your Dead Flag Blues:

I know. What the frick is wrong with me.

Hey fam! I don't know if you know this or not, but it's New Years. I've been very busy with family today, and rn I'm in the process of getting ready for my church's New Year's Service, which is several hours long and lasts until Midnight. Point is, I'm busy. I've launched a ground battle yesterday, and I intend to do more attacks tonight. While I won't deny that I'm beige farming (which is not against the rules), I am certainty not slot filling. Please reach out to me if you think I'm breaking the rules in the future instead of running to moderation to use them as a weapon! Thanks!

As a member of Coalition B, I can say that the current awards are nothing more than a circlejerk between the major alliances on our side. Every year, it's the same. "@everyone, be sure to vote for X members/alliances so we can win!" It's made the yearly awards a joke, and I'm sure others agree with me when I say I don't care about them. It seems like alliances such as NPO and GOONS are wholeheartedly defending the current system because it's seemingly the only thing they're good at organizing and coming together for, basically guaranteeing their side the win every year. Their members will blindly vote for whomever their leadership tells them to without thinking about who actually deserves it. You can try to deny this is the case, but you're not fooling anybody. I've seen it myself year after year. The current system is a joke and needs to be improved upon if there is to ever be any credibility to these awards. I guarantee you if the situation was reversed, and Coalition A members were dominating the awards, it would be Coalition B alliances trying to devise a new system. You have the other side trying to work with you to create a fair voting system, but are shutting them down because things went your way this year. It's pretty sad. @hope and everyone else, this is a great suggestion and I agree with it 100%. I appreciate the effort even if no one else on my side does.

Pretty much what it says on the tin. Let alliances place embargoes and let their member nations opt out if they wish. Let this be against other alliances ir individual nations. A spy intel mission on said nation will let folks know if they are currently following thier alliance embargo or not.

Nation Link: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=175469 Ruler name: Sardonic Nature of Violation: Has offensive language in nation's custom description insulting Americans.

If I’m accepted in Fark, would hope this gets resolved in white peace pretty quick. Although they wouldn’t be allowed to lose no matter what damage you can do if they accept me. DH isn’t allowed to lose either regardless the stats. So the harm done won’t be positive here. Although I think they are reasonable alliances & don’t think getting them to agree on white peace would be hard if the enemy is receptive. Or maximum harm/attrition campaign on the enemy to try getting them to do whatever they asked for terms. Unless there is deep grudges fueling this, not sure why it’s still dragging out when it was DH who got their bank stolen & don’t think planned to drag it out more than 3 rounds. Disappointing you guys are dragging it out longer because you think the damage stats mean anything. If you have nothing to lose from the start, you admit the stat is rigged in your favor over a true reflection of combat ability.

If Fark accepts you you're still not going to just stop being at war with GOONS. That's not how it works. If an alliance accepts a member already at war with an alliance, they accept the consequences from that.

The only thing triggered around here is my funny bone

why would Noctis ever expect peace from goons without a struggle session post

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/unique/id=187176 I need you to look into this unique id, most of these accounts registered at oldest 389 days ago and below you have too many and trust me when I say TOO many accounts that registered 31 days ago and they're ALL VERIFIED. Is verifying your account that easy so the same person can post pictures holding numbers or letters - for different accounts? I mean, how come they're all verified as individual accounts.. I doubt all of them would bother to verify their accounts as individual accounts if they didn't even bother with playing the game and 90 % of them if not all went inactive at same dates, or a day or two later one after another.. LINKS THAT CONTAIN NATIONS THAT REGISTERED ON THE SAME DAY(30 days ago), AND ARE ALL VERIFIED: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187313 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187257 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187276 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187294 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187309 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187311 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187312 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187256 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=187186 The rest of the nations on this unique ID either registered 31 days ago 29, or some of the oldest from these accounts 389 and 387 but are ALL verified.

No, it's because they have both coal and oil production, whereas every other continent is either coal or oil. I know what the issue is, I just haven't bothered to fix it yet because it's impact is very minor.

When I initially saw this topic, I thought it was regarding how Fraggle Rock was being given a billion dollars. I'm glad to see I wasn't mistaken! Sending my million as soon as I'm unblockaded

everyone is laughing at you not with you, im surprised you havent realized that yet

Has NPO government expressed any position at all about awards?

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Thanks for trying to do something nice, hope. I'm sorry so many people are triggered by it. But don't let that put you off.

These awards will not have in-game representation. I can't help the "defacto administrative sanction" with regards to the forums but, as I said earlier... They are supposed to be for fun and have no bearing on the game. If you guys don't want to be a part of it, that's fine. But stop kicking up a storm if you don't want to be involved and help out because these literally will have no impact on your in-game experience. @Chief Wiggum, if you'd be so inclined, go ahead and move this thread to Orbis Central

I am 100% in favor of an alliance that has a mandatory Gay Space Communism requirement. We weren't strict with that enough in CoS

Can you guys ever be happy? You threw a tantrum in the official awards thread and ranted and raved about the need for an alternative despite you winning by a landslide thanks to numbers. Now, when there is an actual alternative being run, it's another tantrum about them being undemocratic and biased. I guarantee if it was someone in Coalition B running the awards, they would be billed as the greatest thing since the invention of democracy. Cut it out. There's no reason for you to be acting like this.

Can't let facts get in the way of the narrative.

You're not excluded. You're literally invited from what I understand?

You are the only one here trying to make this about politics. The rest of us here are literally trying to reach out to you all and get you to join in on making the system better, which would also have the side effect of counter-balancing any supposed power that we have. While you personally may not think there's anything to be improved upon, that is not representative of your alliance and, to be quite honest, I don't think it's representative of your actual opinion either. If the concern you actually have that you're not saying is over in-game awards, you can relax. No one on this team cares about the awards going in-game and we're not looking to make this into a Coalition A circlejerk to have us get positive awards/you get negative awards. There won't even be negative awards besides Worst Alliance Leader, which we all know exists just for @TheNG (?). Join or don't. We'd love to have you get involved and have Coalition B represented but if you want to make your ally's idea to try and facilitate a better, more balanced awards system into some conspiracy to have Coalition A retcon awards, that's your prerogative. These concerns are not new or influenced by the outcome of the awards nor are they only from Coalition A... From Teaspoon (GOONS) on the Community Awards From Comrade Milton (GOONS) on the awards in general Mad Max (also not Coalition A): All of those were well before the award results were ever decided or revealed. Regarding a "secret" cabal, it's not secret. Everyone's aware who's on the panel and there are some guards in place to try and maintain objectivity. The current idea is to include literally about 60 alliances all across Orbis, all the results are going to be publicly viewable, and alliance leaders can't nominate or vote your own alliance. Transparency is absolutely a valid concern and that's why everything all throughout this process is going to be as visible as possible. It's also not a cabal as there is still a part of this process designed to include general membership. Also, this is still a working idea. There is still room for movement and ideas to be weighed, considered, and added. Hope came up with the idea and just reached out to all of us today. This literally just got started. We're working on refining his idea with him and would like you guys to be a part of that process as well.

The loudest opponents to how this year's awards were conducted came from your side so please stop making this about in-game politics when it's not. I'd invite you to join the server and hear hope/the organizers out. Get involved in the process and help shape it into something that can be better enjoyed by the entire community and is a better representation of this game and the year. No one's trying to penalize anyone and, again, there will still be a popular vote aspect to the awards based on hope's vision. If, after you guys hear it out, you have suggestions for improvement, say them. Be a part of the decision-making process. I'm starting to sound like a broken record so I'm done arguing this out with you here. Just, please keep an open mind and send someone from NPO to discuss ideas with us. We want your side to be included, in both the discussion over how to organize the awards and the voting. Top 50 is the base only for alliance leader representatives, btw. It does not mean that someone not in the Top 50 can't be nominated for an award, just for clarification. Also, it's a starting point, not the end-all-be-all for representatives - there is a tentative system that allows for other alliances outside the top 50 to be added to the alliance leader representative team and have a vote and I think your alliance would likely be one of the most likely to be included.

What are razzies?

"I didn't like the results so we're going to change how the awards work instead of trying to get our shitty alliances to be active in the community."

Hey Minesome, stop impersonating some random noob for shitposting.

The awards are fine and this is a bad thread. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

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Mind if you stop using even farewell messages for your own political reasons? You aren't mentioned in Thrax's message at all. The logs aren't mentioned. You are free to send him off, but using his message to try and present a reality different than the one presented by your own words (the logs you brought up here for no reason) is not only out of topic but frankly just unacceptable. Please, at least respect that much.

I won’t comment further on your diet beyond saying that it just doesn’t sit well with what I think I know. Of course I wish you well in your pursuit of a healthy body constitution! Be careful buddy, help and advice is always there if you look for it

False. None that I know exists that automates warfare. Though the multi ring has a nice ring to it.

Current situation: Whenever you are attacked by air, combat automatically occurs. If you are severely outnumbered the plane loss is extremely lopsided. And this situation makes it very easy for someone to keep air supremacy through air attacks that wipe out any of your buys. Planes also have the longest build up time which makes them the hardest to build back up once outnumbered. Proposal: Allow you to put your planes in a "no defense" mode in a war. In that mode, your units don't contest the battle and neither the attacker nor defender take plane casualties. Changing to or from "No defense mode" costs 1 MAP. If the attacker targets planes, the additional planes killed by that targeting are still killed. So they can still attack your planes to keep you from building more, but it's slower and takes more MAPS/resources/resistance than it does currently. Reasons: - Makes planes slightly less OP by making it easier for someone to climb back towards contesting air battles again. - Creates more space for building back up to make more wars contested and interesting. - Gives people more options to make wars more dynamic.