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The war has lasted for 6 months or so. I think we can all agree we have dragged this out for longer than reasonably accepted. I think most people on both sides want this to end after such a long time. So on behalf of myself and whoever else wants some answers: what are Col B terms to end the war? what are Col A terms to end the war? what the heck do you people want? (by people I mean both Coalitions representatives) if you just want the war to last forever or both side's terms are unreconcilable, can you guys at least put them forth for the 5 thousand people's community to hear?

Is it worth considering how many new players started and stopped playing during that time due to alliance efforts being focused on wartime?

>Coalition A: You want peace? Okay. What are your terms? >Coalition B: Not until you admit you lost and surrender! >Coalition A: Are those all your terms? >Coalition B: No, we have others. >Coalition A: Well...what are they? >Coalition B: You wouldn’t accept them if we offered, so we’re not giving them to you. >Also Coalition B: Coalition A is the reason this war is going on forever. REEEEEE! .....

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every post in this thread will add a month to peace talks

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It's been 4 months, how long did you think you set that VM timer to chief?

I did nazi this coming. Kosmo out of nowhere bam.

Both sides should just declare victory and forge sign each others names and signatures on their own peace terms. Problem solved ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

All in favor of leaving our alliances and joining Fark in a mass protest against our alliance leaders who refuse to make peace already? If your teacher leader doesn't make peace within 15 weeks you're legally allowed to walk out. That's what my older brother told me.

Oh good we're doing these threads again.

The war has just started;) Keep the global going!

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Oh hey, Thalmor is somewhere in that crowd. Also as the preeminent expert on which of you !@#$ are the naziest nazis, I found a nazi in AK and went to them all like "yo why you nazis?" and they kicked the guy no questions asked. KKKT deliberately recruited nazis for a long time until things got too nazi for the wishy washy nazis in KKKT to tolerate so they spun them off into a nazi protectorate, and then spammed my discord with nazi shit because I smashed their nazi protectorate, and spent the ensuing years pulling nazi bullshit on a regular basis.

Eh. I think this is kind of missing the point. Thalmor was going for a certain thing when he made the alliance and it was bound to attract people more radical than he may be. The post-Thalmor leaders like Keegoz who don't traditionally imbue their alliances with RL poliitcal views have had the challenge of balancing the fact that it will get them negative attention and alienating their memberbase by going too "PC". I don't know what their own personal views are ultimately, but the imagery curu cites is the most prominent with regards to the KT theme. By contrast there was a knights templar themed alliance in CN, and it never had these political associations because it was a much different political climate at the time it was made and it didn't try to attract people based on their RL political views. To give some examples, there was a person with a British Union of Fascists flag with Tsumugi from K-On on it. There's also a hyperborea theme nation which comes with all the associated issues the alliance had since you know Hyperborea is supposed to be the mythical homeland of the Aryan race. I was very disgruntled with the Hyperborea theme and BK's association with it for a long time. There's also that guy who did the lynching reference and his ruler name and nation name was specifically mocking of blacks/muslims to begin with. There's also Rhodesia forever nation as well and you know it means it's someone who sees white minority rule as ideal.

can't surrender if you don't think you've lost

Maybe. But theres not much difference between a nazi and someone who fights at the nazis side for years of the nazis naziing, and is currently trying to defend the nazis by saying their naziness is nazi but it isnt as nazi as some other nazis naziness so its ok.

Roq sure changed his tune...

The changes simplify things and clean it up, so I’m fine with it tbh. The missing resources tab is slightly annoying but it could be added in or @Alex could give us customizable tabs

Look at my wars, I’ve switched sides now.

Well, it appears that the longer this war goes on, the greater BK's effort to suicide their reputation and war standing (i.e. losing allies (some quite long-term), attacking unaffiliated parties, dragging in an entire sphere with significant ties to their own side). What could possibly be next? I'm certainly curious to find out! In other news, convenient time to return from your vacation, Seb - hope you got a nice tan.

For Coalition A to surrender For Coalition B to surrender Jokes aside, this war is a bit of a sticky one and there are no signs of it ending soon. I presume more people are leaving the game than actually joining it (if you exclude NPO puppets) which can only be a bad thing and the game seems to only be going in a downwards spiral from this point in terms of treaties and coalition changes.

I can foresee that there is a good future within their journey. There is a hope. Let's all hope in their hope.

I can't wait to see what CBs can be made for a DoW involving this alliance. "To refill our supply of kool-aid" "To take them to a higher dimension" Etc.

What are you smoking hope, and where might I get some?

Ding dong your low tier is gone.

Well, if there was an inverse achievement that you get for declaring a war before c10 then that'd make it so raiders aren't left out

well they could also have it overthrown by a CIA-backed coup.

Twelfth century militant religious orders are LITERALLY exactly the same as the NSDAP from the Twentieth century. I know this, you know this, we all know this. You have no idea.

yes ill see myself out now

Ahhh. The whirlpool to Davey Jones' locker beckons. Commies are but a footnote to the eternal history that is piracy. The Sea Peoples that crashed the Golden Age of Antiquity; The Vikings pledging themselves to Byzantium; Caribbean age; and now Arrgh who survives while the rest perish. Tis an honor to wave the Jolly Roger unlike the Hammer and Sickle.

Pretty good actually. They haven’t cheated resources into the game, don’t have a blatant obvious Nazi alliance theme going, or have any members openly admitting wanting to take advantage of children. So how is it for you?

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What’s it like to be working alongside AK?

2015: ability to hit planes with other units please 2016: ability to hit planes with other units please 2017: ability to hit planes with other units please 2018: ability to hit planes with other units please 2019: ability to hit planes with other units please Alex any year: No, but what about this new beautiful *insert some useful change*? I think we should stop asking and see if reverse psychology works

Move on from this already. What's done is done.

You want to be able to make 22 million a day on baseball? So, more than an infra'd up 25 city nation does. That sounds like a reasonable amount to you? [In before downvotes from the click brigade]

Good luck bro! It was nice to meet you and work with you. I hope you the best and I look forward to your return ? Atlantis salutes you o7 ? ? ? ? ?

This must be what passes for a witty rejoinder in GOONS.

I remember when I thought making long posts on the forums was cool. I was a very small, uneducated child, but I remember

Will BK, TKR & KETOG align against the new threat? All the Knights together, lol

Over-powered. Wars are one-sided enough in this game, why make it so that you can completely wreck your enemy and remove any slim chance for them to get back into the fight. Alternatively it will just push up warchest requirements so everyone has enough money to just rebuy stuff during wartime

I bet you broke your keyboard just typing that.

What makes you think wars would be shorter instead of being the same length and the gaps between global wars longer? In theory, wars can be as long or short as players want. We could have shorter wars now with smaller warchests, but we don't. Unless players fundamentally change the length of time they want or expect to fight wars, they will require warchests to cover the same length of time. And if wars are more expensive, that means larger warchests, which requires longer periods of peace to rebuild between wars. This has been a problem in the past, which is why I bring it up again now to make sure we don't repeat old mistakes.

One concern I have about this idea is that I think it may drastically increase the necessary warchests for alliances to be willing to go to war. If you need to have enough cash on hand to rebuy your infra to stay in a war for more than a short while, that suddenly becomes a ton of cash necessary. Such massive increases in necessary warchests may seriously prolong the periods of "peace" between global wars in the game.