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This is Shifty reporting in to fist you full of stuffing while you're still raw... Oh apologies I thought you were a turkey Oh baby, I don't want a mistress for Christmas, I want a turkey.... Today Shifty brings you the grand expose on Bad Company (thats French so you pronounce it expose-ayyy, but do it properly you have to rip your tongue out and screech, those damn frogs and their pronunciation guides) So Shifty has followed them before: Let's get the low down on BC FA >BC drops Rose after TKR-Rose backdoor pact to roll IQ by sending in BC and friends to pin down TGH-KT BC claimed it was an infringement on their sovereignty >BC gets bribed by IQ not to sign TKR with cheap resources after Polaris rats on Vanguard BC acts on cheap gas and denies TKR like Judas denied Christ but feels like this is just a temporary delay of the inevitable >BC dumps Vanguard BC feels like they're too close to IQ. IQ jumps them because they leaked Vanguard and IQ intel So now fellas, is Bad Company the poor girl next door who can't catch a break because guys are !@#$ or is BC a thottie? Well, the answer might be closer than you think, hence the poll at the beginning. Now if you voted before reading, I salute you for being a man of action and jumping into the fire without checking. We're alike If you read and then voted, you don't like chaos and fun, but hey you're right, which is always good. Cynic has stolen the BC bank and deleted it. So to all my pirates, raiders, and chaos seekers, there is no BC bank. Cynic destroyed it. Also 20 likes and I post who they'll sign next.

Firstly i would like to thank those who believed in me early on. Your support has given me a light at the end of the tunnel. Roq had once told me id never win anything and today I proved him wrong with all my amazing supporters. Next i would like to thank Ricky for telling me about this on Kev and Charlies show, giving me the opportunity to run in a election i had no clue existed. Additionally I would like to thank TGH and its members for giving me this amazing opportunity, chances are ill fail, but at least i tried. Finally i would like to name @Kevanovia as my handmaiden, I have no clue if i can do this but i can try at least

You set yourself up for this one TGH

So I guess it is time to end my self imposed silence on this entire matter. On the 13th, as you can see from the screenshot going around, I was given information about IQ going to war with TGH/KT. I have already been informed that if this had occurred, OWR and Polaris would have also gone to war alongside us. Even with our cancellation, we would have been a part of Vanguard at the time of war declaration, and would have honored our treaties. As such, this is why I gave the order to move to DEFCON 2 and prepare war builds. I shared the intel with my high government, unaware that we had a leak. The intel got out and I was approached by Sketchy on the Thursday asking if it was true, which I denied knowledge of. Though I was asleep when the war was declared, when I returned, I saw that Kevanovia had departed for TGH. Cynic accused him of being the leak, giving logs stating so, and we took it at face value. Truly, hindsight is wonderful. He also state that he had a safe place he could hide the bank, and being unaware of his previous actions, was allowed to do so. Unfortunately, when we had discovered that he was the leak, the bank had already been moved to him, and there was no way for us to get it back.

This makes me mad, why not wasting them on keno?

Trusting Cynic in PNW.

Did you fabricate all that stuff about your stepdaughter?

@Alexio15 You never learn fam. They wanted slots. They'd have rolled you regardless of the reason. Rushing to throw people under the bus to save your AA was never gonna work. I hope you guys licked Kev's butthole real good cuz if I was him I'd never speak to you again.

Don't hurt me

You sound like a raving idiot atm.

Ass Bag Cynic

When it comes right down to it, why would they? Once rolled, infra is cheap and so are missiles.

How are people ignoring this? It was pretty well done.

Ease up buddy, those are the words of Our Lord and Savior the Lord Jesus Christ.

Welcome back people from your thanksgiving dinners. Now. About this name. How about we ask Alexio?

It's Great Job! you heathen. Also, yeah BC has a good chance on getting WAOTW

Totally hurting Gorge... ...in a loving way. (Sidenote: What’s with Lordaeron people making Princesses for Orbis?)

Cuzzelle didn’t delete the bank. Just took it and hid in VM. If Cynic did the same, it’d make sense

This loss hurt more than stepping on a Lego. . . It hurt more than getting hit in the ankle with a scooter. . . It hurt more than a paper cut between the fingers.

Imagine a world without people like Cynic. Sad that people like him exist, totally undeserving of any alliance to have this done to them. Best of luck BC, hope you overcome this whole mess.

Baby don't hurt me.

What is love?!

THE The Fighting Pacifists?

Mfw more bad things keep happening to BC

See here's where I think you're wrong. Vanguard aren't our puppets as much as we have a strong cooperation based of years of relationships. Is VG independent of IQ, yeah. If VG decides they want something different, they follow through, and if anything their DoN in this war is a prime example of that. We cooperate, share a close relationship and therefore any new member of VG knows that IQ/VG exist as a partnership and there is cooperation. Thats just what being allies are. If BC wished to take VG to a different direction, thats on their statecraft abilities. If they failed and decided to leave, thats fair. But to leak and look to undermine IQ/VG on their way out, showed us their intent was not a simple disagreement, but rather based off on carrying out aggressive actions against IQ. Therefore we did what we believe was the best course of action, here warring BC, for specifically leaking and its hostile intent towards IQ. BC leaving VG on its own terms is fine tbh, does not really bother me, as much as what you did while leaving that gave us a valid reason to hit you ^_^.

Validity is objective. If your CB was valid you could show everyone, and that would shut me up in a hurry, because I would clearly be in the wrong. Why can't you?

I mean what makes me confident is mostly that you have led with a meme and continually misrepresented how valid your CB is. You said it was the most valid CB IQ has ever had. Probably if it was, you could just led with that, and everyone would be like "wow, good job, IQ, get trashed BC". What pieces I've seen don't look nearly as valid as you made them out to be, so I've made the logical assumption the rest of it is equally garbage. Could be wrong, but I don't trust your word on the matter for much.

SNN's favorite: Thalmor A vote for Thalmor is a vote for Shifty.

11/22 05:07 am Overlord Fezza of Fezzaland has defeated you in war. You have forfeited $359,070, 0 Coal, 0 Oil, 133 Uranium, 0 Iron, 0 Bauxite, 96 Lead, 424 Gasoline, 601 Munitions, 300 Steel, 184 Aluminum, and 2,992 Food and lost 4% of the infrastructure in each of your cities in exchange for peace. Your national color has been changed to Beige Well done Fezza.... but what happened here? https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=133555 You didn't have to reroll and hide mate?

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=363485 Yes, I know this isn't the best example since the 13 city nation did win the war and looted around 5-6B in cash and prizes, however there was still a 13v34 city war that happened. I suggest there exist a hard floor for declare ranges based on city count. My suggest is you should never be able to declare on a nation over 10 cities less than you. I, for example, have 23 cities, thus I wouldn't be able to declare war upon nations with 12 cities or lower. The two things for debate are: Should a limiter like this exist? How many cities below should the limit be?

@Charlie Traveler I love you. Biggest fan. Marry me.

That's no fun.

ITT: OWF is shook that IQ doesn’t feel it owes it anything.

I might be missing something but this is pretty similar to when Cuzzelle deleted the t$ bank isn't it? When that happened didn't Alex return 80% of the bank back to them?

Sorry you had to go through that @Alexio15. It is true though, Alexio did deny when Sketchy approached him about the information we got. Which wasn’t from BC, but from others instead.

Honestly, why do people even trust Cynic anymore? He's stolen hundreds of IRL dollars from previous gaming communities, continues to rat out friends and acts like a victim when he's been caught. He's quite literally one of, if not the worst IC and OOC players in PnW.

I mean why would you trust that clown in the first place.

It's a really bad idea to hold a vote for a god given position. voters ruin everything.

If BC was leaking information that was provided through the Vanguard bloc, why is Vanguard not hitting them? BC is under no obligation to protect IQ info, and under every obligation to protect Vanguard info. The fact that IQ is hitting them just proves that Vanguard is just a procy-state for IQ.

Is he too busy looking at the forums instead of the resistance from his wars?

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=112672&display=bank tfw you get looted by Pantheon

Worst Company, or ask alexio.

Introducing Amazon Alexio

First off, I’ll be hosting the awards again this year. It’ll be a good occasion as usual. However I’m trying to spice it up this year. I’m trying to add new categories and make it more of a presentation this year so here we go for ideas: 1. Instead of public voting, we do secret ones that are counted by multiple people, so there’s no way of rigging the vote. 2. Instead of the usual public view of awards, we hold a radio show(Kev and Charlie will hopefully help out), and the show is where the Awards are announced and people can actually get up and say a few words about their awards(we’ll try to pick a neutral time and get the top 3 to join, for alliance awards-they can send any gov member). 3. An establishment of a “Hall of Fame” voting. I’m not sure how we’ll add it, because I definitely don’t want that turning into a popularity contest. However it’ll be 2 a year voted on by the Community. 4. Most categories- post them below! Any ideas are welcome! Nominations will open December 15th and stay open until January 1st. This gives you 17 days to nominate anyone starting then. This thread is to garner interest in “spicing it up” If you wish for everything to remain normal, say that so we’ll know. Anyone wishing to work with us this year shoot my a message on Discord or message me in-game.

TKR's First Time bay bay lets go Republicans!!!! Blue wave what?

"Raids any raid on members and applications will be investigate by the military staff" "Military advisor Vacant" "ALL MEMBERS MOST JOIN DISCORD" ...Um. Wow. That's extra special. Then again, at least 2 of them are qualified for Milcom by TKR standards, by which I mean they know where the vacation mode button is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No question or interest in history is stupid. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. The Vietnam War draft is essentially like the modern "selective service." Upon the age of 18, every American citizen was required to register with the government their name and information, which was then partially cooped by the relatively nascent Social Security Administration. You wanted to get social security benefits? You have to register with the government. You want food stamps or college aid? You have to register with the government. Not to mention it was a federal crime not to. Your view of drafting sounds more along the lines of something out of the Soviet Union during the Second World War ("Great Patriotic War"), where military police, reserves, and NKVD secret police units would round up young men into trucks and trains and "draft" them into the conflict. Not that much prodding was necessary then, given the situation, but everyone was either in a factory position or on the frontlines. The Vietnam era was a lot more different with less stakes. To give you a sort of scale, the Soviets lost 3 million men in the Rezhev meatgrinder alone between winter of 1941 and fall of 1942. By the end of the war, Soviet losses were at a staggering 15 million fighting men, and even more countless civilians. Roughly 1 in 8 Russians died in that conflict. In contrast, the US, since its inception in 1776 to the modern day, has not had more than 2 million total war casualties across every war, including the Civil War, where roughly a million Americans on both sides lost their lives. The Soviets lost that on a good day in the Rezhev pocket. In reality, the amount of American troops in the Vietnam war deployed at any given time was around 100,000 men at the time of the surge in the 1970s. The drafting process beings as such: First, you receive a letter in the mail after you have registered with the Social Security Administration and the government. The letter is similar to a subpoena, in which you are required to appear at a military base (we have them all over the place in the US, since quartering troops in houses was something we fought a war over previously) under the penalty of criminal punishment. i.e., you get a letter in the mail saying that if you don't pack your things and show up to a military base to be drafted, we will arrest you and put you in jail. Second, you receive training at the base camp, typically around 8 weeks give or take your branch of service. The training would include small arms fire training, squad tactics, explosive and special weapons training, basic first aid, and military culture. After your training, you are assigned a unit, typically newly formed or added to an existing unit. If you are a newly formed unit, you may be called upon to deploy to Vietnam with your unit. If you are attached to an existing unit as replacements, either for those who had died or were on leave for whatever reason, you would be shipped out immediately. Most often, you would board a commercial flight, typically to a naval base in the region or directly to US-controlled Saigon, depending on the conditions and logistics that were laid out for you. If you were in the navy, you were likely posted to Okinawa, Japan and then sent on a ship to patrol the South China Sea region and support carrier task forces. If you were in the air force, you were likely take a flight to Guam or the Philippines, depending on what kind of pilot you were, and then stationed either there, on a Forward Operating Base (FOB), or on an aircraft carrier for missions. If you were in the army or marines, you were likely directly flown to Saigon or a nearby military base and then transported via truck to a FOB where you were deployed. Helicopters were generally used for medical or transport directly into a combat zone, and rarely used for ferrying troops, contrary to popular belief. FOBs varied in size, but this is generally where all frontline troops stayed at. They could be a giant encampment outside of Saigon with a fully functioning airfield and transport infrastructure, or, if you have crap luck, a clearing in a jungle where a company of 300 men constantly patrol the base camp with mines all around you. If you were on the big FOBs, you enjoyed cooked food, proper restrooms, office space for desk workers and administration officials, and a general life similar to a typical army base camp. If you were on a smaller FOB, the purpose of the FOB is to hold a location. Often, these FOBs were pockets deep inside the jungles, with the real possibility that you could be surrounded at any moment. Life in these FOBs were hard. No warm food, no toilets, rudimentary tents and shelters. It was wet, miserable, and deadly. Imagine camping out in a humid, hot jungle with centipedes the size of your head and poisonous snakes everywhere. Imagine squatting in a designated shit zone a little outside of the camp with your bare ass exposed to mosquitos and flies. Imagine wet rain pouring every other day making the place a wet, smelly, hot shithole. Imagine that the only food you have is meat in a can that gives you constipation. Now imagine that place that you've decided to camp out in is filled with mines and ferocious Asians with AKs trying to kill you. Compare that life with the cushy desk job of a communications officer in a FOB outside Saigon. It honestly depends on where you are deployed. And to be clear, the people who were drafted were not completely random. By the Vietnam war, the army's policy of segregating the armed forces by color was dissolved. For the first time in American military history, Black NCOs commanded white enlisted men. But by far, proportionally to the population size, there were more black men fighting in the dark holes of Vietnam than white men. To be sure, the draft itself was not racist. It's just that the draft affected the less affluent. There were several ways you could "avoid" the draft at the time. You could have been in college, in which case your draft was "deferred." You could also avoid the draft if you had a medical condition. The draft was suppose to make everyone equal, but because of these exceptions, the draft disproportionately affected some more than others. Most colleges had their student bodies entirely made up of white people. College required tuition and was thus out of reach for some Americans. Having a medical condition meant that you had a primary care physician that you paid money to diagnosis the condition. Furthermore, even though there was a penalty for not registering with the SSA, some people risked it anyway, particularly more affluent people who didn't rely on social security or government programs. You rolled the dice when you draft dodged, since the government could come after you at any moment. White people just tended to have more resources at their disposal to defer the draft. The best example of draft dodging by a rich white person is the current president of these United States. Donald Trump had "deferred" his draft by having his physician diagnosis him with "bone spurs." Three times, actually. It helped that his father was one of the richest men in Manhattan and had powerful connections to get him out of the draft. Trump just had to defer his draft enough times to outlast the length of the war. Not all people tried to avoid the draft. There were people who really did believe that what the US was doing in Vietnam mattered. The late senator John McCain was one such person, though he was a navy pilot. Navy pilots, generally speaking, have it better than the boots on the ground in terms of day-to-day lifestyle on a carrier, but at no less risk. His life story there is one such example, and if you are interested, I suggest you read more about him. Ultimately, the most miserable part of the Vietnam war was ironically the lack of technological and infrastructural sophistication of the enemy. The US had taken the Blitzkrieg tactic of the Germans from the Second World War and added supersonic jets and a massive Cold War military-industrial complex behind it. The standard tactic of the US was to use aircraft and artillery to soften up an enemy, send fat armored tanks to roll over the remains, and send infantry to mop up and capture strategic objectives that inhibited the ability of the enemy to fight back. In the Vietnam jungles, there were no artillery targets. You couldn't run a 30 ton armored tank into the jungle to soak up bullets. You couldn't see what you were dropping bombs on. There were no strategic objectives to hold. Vietnam was an infantry fight, a brutal, close-quarters small-arms firefight where the enemy would shoot at you, run away, let you get wet and miserable in the shithole jungle, and then come back and see if you are more exhausted yet. When the Germans attacked Stalingrad in 1942, they first bombed out the entire city, creating this massive jungle of bricks that their tanks couldn't roll over. To mitigate German air superiority and artillery firepower, the Soviets ordered their troops to advance as close to the enemy as possible. That battle also became an infantry fight, often resulting in hand-to-hand combat with shovels and knives. The Germans called the battle the "Rat War." Only the most cunning, ferocious, kill-or-be-killed resourceful badasses survived there. Vietnam was America's Rat War.