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This is Shifty coming in with some dank af news since he's been gone for awhile. Shifty is here to report why Yakuza broke off. 1. BK was helping out their bruddas and micros. 2. Elijah saw the way BK was doing it as overstepping the sovereignty boundaries and adding insult to injury since he blamed TCW and BK for the war. 3. He wasn't happy with how AK wasn't willing to just drop the BK tie. 4. He didn't like Carthago's low warchest/style of retaining info. Thinks El Chach is a dumbass. @Theodosius you mad man, you helped fuel this rift. 5. Lastly, enough was enough and without being able to secure a drop from BK. He withdrew Yakuza. 6. The only reason they're staying in is to avoid bad PR. "Our word would mean shit if we just peaced out and dropped." I'll be log dumping soon enough folks!

Its funny so many approved and yet Alex didnt listen he ignored us for too long. Now we rise up once more. As stated in the post above Water would serve as a food like resource with modifications. It would be needed in order for the nation to properly function like you see with food. It can also be traded like any resource in the Market. Here are some ideas with what you can also do with water. Water would be produced via Water Pumps which would be worth one improvement slot each. Power Hydroelectric Power Plants - this would turn water into elecriticty similiar to Oil, Coal and Nuclear Plants. Hydroelectric Power Plants are the most efficent power sources. Costs to build hydroelectric plants should be high but maintaining one should be pretty low as it would be irl. Nuclear Cooling - water would be used in order to keep Nuclear Power Plants at a safe level, a small amount of water would be used as to not make running nuclear power plants not worthwhile. If a nation doesnt have water the Nuclear Power Plant will shut down not being able to produce power until water is bougnt with a small chance of an explosion occuring which would destroy the Power Plant, destroy 300 to 700 infra, and give radation levels similiar to a nuke in the city. Military Water would be also used to keep Military Troops well maintained and operational. If troops dont have enough water they will be unusable like an actual military force would. Disease/Pollution Once a city reaches a certain size, water would began acting polluted and would raise disease and pollution levels, to combat this players would need to build Water Treatment Centers to combat this, they would work similiar to how Recycling Centers, Hospitals, and Police Stations work and the ratio of water pumps to treatment would be between 6:1 to 10:1. Projects Water Reclamation Plant - This would cost one project slot and once built will boost water production in every city buy an additional 25%, they would have no affect on water pollution rates. It would also be fairly cheap. If you have any more ideas with water please feel free to shate them.

Complaining about some infra selldowns a month and a half after they happened? Man, talk about myopic. I think the thing you fail to grasp Ronny, is that Sphinx sold down that infra because it was going to be destroyed anyway, and so he could get lower and help out his members and allies clear out the mid and upper tiers through downdeclares - you know actually contributing something of value to the coalition he's a part of. This is of course in stark contrast to the bumblers in GoB, who have spent this war whining about "muh 3.8 billion" and doing nothing to assist their allies while they all got rolled. Then of course when we got to you guys, you waited patiently to die or even worse built tanks and expensive infrastructure to preserve your precious nations for another week. All GoB has been good for is padding our stat sheets - maybe you should've sold down too, eh? If given the choice between Sphinx and a hundred weak, selfish GoB members, I'd choose him every time. I know I'd get something of value in the trade.

Not going to lie, the points you put up originally are almost entirely countered by the actual logs you posted.

That's ridiculous, it's unfair! Sometimes friends can only be pushed so far. Sometimes we have to take matters into our own hands... Everyone reach for the sky! Put the money in the bag! We're not leaving unless it's 2 billion (or more)!

Wow you must suck at parties

So where exactly does a 652 old nation get the billions needed to buy 5 cities during a war? You also have 5k land in each city which alone is over $2 billion. This is an insane amount of money and far more than you would have by traditional means. Unless I am mistaken it also appears you have been using the Yakuza bank to send money to people on your network that are not verified: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=110868&display=bank

Friendly reminder: replying to Inst is a waste of your time and braincells.

Actually that would be when the pastries on your side decided to make this Knightfall lite.

I mean its one of the upper gov/high gov of TGH publicly posting it. I don't see anyone from TGH denying thats the prevailing opinion and then you had the Scarf meltdown on the OWF declaring that we should be disbanded etc. Neither Sketchy nor anyone else from TGH has taken those words back and their member(s) actions have continued pushing that narrative over here on the boards. Seeing their public statements, I mean its hard not take that as their stance given there has been no other reason to go off. On the other hand, none of our leaders have said the same in public, and we haven't argued for the disbanding/salting the earth of alliances are harming their right to exist as a political organisation working with alliances throughout the course of this war. TGH's upper gov has. NPO's actions have a logical reasoning to them, and those who've heard us out have understood and agreed with the actions, those who do not, so be it. If public pronouncements of disbanding/salting the earth of alliances by leaders in your coalition and pointing that out makes us deranged, then half your coalition leaders are deranged, since quite a few them have been busy trying to do gotcha posts all war lol. Also @TheNG is on point. I'd take Sphinx and his whales who get down and dirty to assist the overall coalition to win.

It might be the booze talking, but if you squint real hard the polar bear starts looking like an albino guinea pig.

Old SNN was hit or miss New SNN is like someone set off a clusterbomb.

Just a reminder that I love you all. ❤️

I would get them all verified quick as we seen with my nation it would be a shame to be banned and deleted.

He doesnt understand those

Hey in Alabama that doesn't matter.

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They’re all brown cinnamon. No flavor, boring aesthetic and the only people who enjoy them are weirdos.

Yo @Sphinx when the frick did you become a pop tart? Better be wild berry or chocolate fudge.

I have multiple times. There was a credible threat, and sitting and waiting by is something we'd have preferred not to have done. We expanded accordingly. I've also stated the only logs that I do have are from folks who are trusted sources, and there are enough people in NPO government including Roq, who concur with the validity of the threat and hence we did what we had to. I said there are those who've agreed and those who have not. Those who've heard us out entirely and know how we've operated and trust our word, know there are solely special circumstances when we act, and have agreed and there are those who like yourself, who do not. It's not a blanket system, its the truth. People have agreed and people have disagreed, but thats how it is, and that is okay.

Whoa! It's true! Sketchy and Scarf being sorta dumb totally is a reasonable retort! It totally doesn't matter that virtually everything NPO has said has been proven false by their own actions anymore, because after the fact, two goofballs were sort of rude to them. At least BK are mostly honest about wanting to be hegemonic weenies. I'm actually starting to think they're the real brains, considering how deranged NPO has been.

I mean, and I know I'm just a lowly nobody at this point, but that sounds, to me, like a halfed-ass way of getting around just saying it. "We'll go until you break, hur hur, so the length is up to your side" knowing full well that some of the people on our side are hard headed enough to not break and saying something like that might actually steel them more against breaking, and some mental gymnastics or the variety of is needed here, of saying "Haha, We'll just perma war them because I know some of their leaders are too hardheaded to just give up and break, but we'll make it sound like it's there decision for PR/morale/whatever reasons." It's a weird flex, but if that's the hill we all are gonna die on, then call me Harold Godwinson, the King.

@Memph, Apparently you haven't heard: The True The Vanguard is completely and utterly victorious over the false Polaris. Their might knows no bounds, their greatness is heard across Orbis. They bring justice on swift wings to those pretenders, those slanderers, those withering liars in the false Polaris. They who pretend to carry the great banner of The True The Vanguard cannot hide behind their fake news any longer. The Fake Polaris claims to be dignified, to be enduring, but their foolish leadership continuously builds their infra beyond what any sane nation ought to do. They provoke the wrath of The True The Vanguard over and over again by building further and further into the score range of their enemies. With their bank looted and the beiges rolling in, they have surely been brought low once and for all. They claim independence but they bow at the feet of their hamster overlord in secret meetings. They have no free will, no dignity, and no honor. The True The Vanguard has shown them just how sensitive and desperate for a safe space they are. Tl;dr: The Fake Polaris cannot hope to contend with how awesome The True The Vanguard is. They need to get over themselves.

No. Trying to paint it this way is super immature on your end. They know by beiging it harms the other people on this side. It has nothing to do with me acting like I supercede anyone else. If people are going to do stuff that is harmful to our side, then I'm going to act on it. People harming us in the war is a transgression. If I was just going around and demanding tribute from people then you might have a point, but when it's our ass on the line when it comes to these malicious intent beiges, then this dog won't hunt and you keep trying to paint it as hegemonic, but anyone would defend their interests and people have threatened people over beiging before, including KETOG. If it's our ass as a whole on the line, they don't get to play games with beiging.

So you'd rather bully/blackmail a player into doing your demands rather than just report him and see how the admin rules it? Nice job on turning out to be a shitacular player. Again, TFP having a nation hit another nation and actively fight does not break the rule of slotfilling. "Slotfilling" doesn't take into consideration of major wars (Nor should it). Literally the only part of your post that could be made of any sense at all is your belief of TFP colluding with TKR. I certainly don't fault you for that perspective, but the rest of your reply is utter bullshit.

Your pleb tier trash talk offends me. Even the worst of the old pirates were better than you.

Carthago delenda est Basically goes on a tirade how Carthago sucks at milcom Arguing for another set of members for Citadel to dump BK. His argument presented here and also part of the reasoning why he only likes SK out of the bunch now and here, he presents his reason for not out right leaving the war. He wishes to retain some semblance of "honor" and "commitment." Also he's afraid of being hit after rebuild. The logs couldn't be more accurate.

Damn. Speak of Shifty's leaks and he comes through.

The conversion rate in today's economy is insane.

The best part of this is that you put in euros and it gives you dollars.

Probably stems from the fact that he doesn’t have 3 unverified accounts on his nation ID and no suspicious bank history but that’s just a theory.

I thought you were incharge of the Originals with your wife @Rebekah Mikaelson

I'm thirsty for new resources so why not add water, a vital resource for human survival. Water would function similiar to food but it could serve more functions (dams for power, etc.) Water would also be required like food, and unlike food can be contaminated or polluted by nukes. Contaminated water would raise disease and lower population. To lower contaminated water levels you would build water treatment plants. Water production itself could be increased by a water reclamation plant national project. Things could be changed about water, but all I want to see is water as a resource. Also remember what Uncle Jonas says "Listen to masses and respect my ideas" ^what water would look like kinda

As high gov, this is as good as stating permawar. This is one piece of why peace talks have not and will not happen in the foreseeable future. The other piece is this war is not yet decided. There has still not been any sort of description from the other side as to what their definition of victory is. We've submitted our narrative and it's relatively digestible. I am eagerly awaiting your metrics for how we are losing the war and will lose decisively. I think I've made it clear to at least one member of your coalition's high gov that I am for white peace, because the best we believe you can hope for is a draw, and a draw in 3 months. See response above. I am with Thrax here. I don't agree with the salt the earth rhetoric, but I can understand where it came from. I can't speak for Scarf or Sketchy, but I was about as upset as someone can be at a nation sim when t$ and then NPO entered. I deleted the t$ embassy from our discord. This is to say, we say things when we are pissed. On the first paragraph, I believe I addressed it in my above response. For the rest, permawar and harsh terms are directly threatening to the existence of an alliance. While these threats have been made out right, we are not surrendering. Which brings me to NPO. Again I agree with Thrax, logic doesn't mean what people think it means. You can act on incorrect assumptions and still be logical, and this is the argument we make. If the assumptions made by NPO were true, they'd be correct. They are not and are not founded on strong evidence, so we find the assumption lacking and cannot agree with the following assumptions. In sum, we won't surrender, you won't end the war unless we surrender. I am open to any and all talks without precondition, which is not what is being proposed by the opposition, and as far as I am aware is not the united front of the opposition, just BK and TCW.

Oi..... I'm an Apple Crumble thank you very much. Its also so I don't need to pack any food for the road, just break off an arm and have a gnaw.... It makes everyday much handier. (Pardon the pun).

fricking Queen's English. Didn't fight a war t' speak Queen's English.

Who even are you

That is incorrect. All the logs are from the high gov level chat. Whoever leaked was a high gov member. Appreciate the shots fired, however all of Citadel will be fighting this war until KETOG, Chaos, and Rose surrender.

Greetings, Friend! I too would like a 2B loan to blow on keno. I will pay it back if I win. Regards

Maybe he got sick of the down declares by higher city counts and had to much cash laying around.

Took long enough

What did you do to get that vote ? As i see it, you’re not even eligible for your name to be on it. Not yet atleast.

So lately I've found myself spending way more time than I should spend at my desk using my laptop, and it's begun to get in the way of real life. I simply can't find enough time and lately I've found myself screwing up/missing irl things because of discord, gaming, and especially PW. (which I've come to enjoy. but play wayyy too much) I missed a close friend's graduation party due to the Surf's Up blitz, I screwed up prep for a meeting the other day because I was being an idiot and sitting on discord until 15 minutes before, and I could go on about this. I've realized I need to step back from it for a while, and while I may come back eventually, it won't be for a long time. It's been an awesome time, I've enjoyed the company of several alliances, and I've met many great people playing. Special Shoutouts @Haris - You were my mentor in TKR and one of the most light-hearted, funny, helpful people I've ever been around. o7 @The Royalist - Oh, the times we've had in Empyrea. Thanks for allowing me to be government, it was a great experience. @Hassan - Have fun with ONF. Start a ping war for me. @Potpie99 - You were always willing to have a friendly chat with me. Good luck as TGH government. Rose - I wasn't a member for very long, but you guys were awesome. You were supportive of my decision to step back and for that I am grateful. TGH - TGH was also great. Buorhann is a great alliance leader, and all you TGH guys are lucky to have him. Empyrea - Oh, the fun times we had. From ping wars to spamming national anthem, you guys were always fun to be around and were absolutely hilarious. Nomination for most entertaining discord channel. TKR- Although it didn't end well, I felt truly at home at TKR. You had the best community I've ever seen and someone was always around to chat. Nice knowing you all.

If your think stats are in anyway definitive of who's "winning" a war then you've got another thing coming. Ignoring the fact that most of KERCHTOG is zeroed, and that their few remaining whales are hiding in the upper tier hugging their Infra or just being inactive. At best most of KERCHTOG can do is mount pot shots at our lower tier or just wait until their whales get swarmed and zeroed into the meat grinder. Its entirely possible this war could result in a stalemate but KERCHTOG cannot and will not win regardless of how much they complain about it and pat each other on the back on the OWF. Honestly it's basically your George Bush "Mission Accomplished" moment. Sure mate keep telling yourself that. #Berniecanstillwin #KERCHTOGcanstillwin

Till they bend the knee

He still get online eveyday.

Step 0.5: Join an existing alliance and learn the politics before branching out on your own. Learn who are the influential actors are in the current world politics of the game, and talk to them for advice. Learn the game too, because you'll be teaching your future members on "how to play".