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I respect the fact that you took time out of your busy dog-punting schedule to write this

Dude same @Smith How does it feel to literally be a dwarf?

...Amen

Considering treaties are being cancelled, shouldn't this say "erased" or "undrawn"?

Sure

I only talk shit about smith

You are forgiven. Go now, by the grace of your god.

When u try to poach from your own alliance, that tends to happen

Shoutout to @Arthur Pendragon for making this for me.

It's been a fun 10 or so years of playing browser nation sims but it's time to say farewell. I'd like to thank everyone for an amazing time and the amazing community that I've been a part of these years. Arrgh was a dream come true and every last captain in our merry fleet was a joy to raid with. For everyone who's come and gone, it's been an absolute pleasure. There are too many shoutouts to make and I would be here all day so let me just say, you know who you are and it was wonderful.

I've re-ordered treaties by type in ascending alphabetical order, so it'll be pretty close to what you're asking for. It will go live with the next patch (probably a few hours.)

sorry, i'll stop

I mean, Kastor said activity, not nation color.

So basically your point wasn't even really a point. ......... Jesus

I'd like to start by saying this is not directed specifically at current events, but a trend that current events are an example off. Often times the side who is on the defensive end of a war having been attacked inevitably bring up arguments about a "valid CB". To the credit of most participants in the current war it's not as prevalent this time though there have been several comments publicly and others privately made regarding the validity of a the CB used here. I'm not here to argue which side or right, or wrong. I'm here to tell you it does not matter which side is right or wrong. If your alliance is attacked by someone, their reason for it is valid. If their reason was they attacked you for fun, if they attacked you because they had intel you might be plotting against them, if someone insulted you or your alliance. Whatever motivated you and your alliance to go to war is a valid reason for that war. It does not matter if the defensive side considers your reason for war valid in terms of why the war is happening, nor should it be complained about. The only time a valid CB should be considered part of the equation is during the peace negotiations. Should the defensive side pull a victory over their aggressors and they deem their CB as a load of crap, perhaps the peace terms might not be so pleasant. The point is, don't complain that you're being attacked without a valid CB. Just because the reason for the war might not seem like a reason to you, doesn't mean it's not a reason for the attacker. If someone's justification for war is that they believe it might be a good fight, then that is a valid justification for that alliance regardless of if it is for yours. The important thing is to find an alliance who's CB standards matches with yours. If you feel you need a detailed provocation, then find an alliance who follows that general rule. If you want a more relaxed fun based reason for going to war, find an alliance that follows that rule. Good and evil are perspective, validity of CB's are the same. Lots of people, myself included, are guilty of succumbing to the CB blame game. But lets focus less on the reason for the war being valid or not, and focus on generating politics based off the wars. tl;dr CBs are bullshit.

I finally got a response! #blessed ??

I remember you from the CoS discord

no means no clarke.

>having a charter

No. The first time was a religious conversion. Please make the destinction.

Isn't it fantastic?

They're just playing hard to get.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/sex-robot-turns-down-steamy-12726878 Someone break the news to Clarke, what do you do when even your sex bot doesnt want to have sex with you?

You vile imposter.

@Mad Max Let me take you on a journey, friend. Play this instrumental and read along with me..... I'm upset Almost 15M on my head, it's disrespect So offended that I had to double check Always take killin’ Templars over peace That's why they need us out the way What you expect? Got a lot of blood and it's cold Thalmor tryna get me for my soul Thankful for the Farkers that I know Can't go fifty-fifty with no Buo Oldheads say “Queenie, pay your dues Gotta give the game what it wants” But y’all know I do what the fck I want Me and Kastor been havin’ static since day 1 Outta Ashland, players love to pop a lot of shit then come around Word to "The" Bloc, they done seen us put it down Fuggahs askin' if I'm cool Nah I'm upset Almost 15M on my head, it's disrespect So offended that I had to double check You tryna check? It's The Revolutionary March to the Sea, fuggahs think we playin' chess So what's next? Jump up out of update like we possessed To the Holy Land, yeah I’m trippin’ less End up gettin' loose and gettin' DMs from my ex (hey Justin!) "SOS," "So many Ls" That's the only time I ever shoot below my score (skrr) Why you keep on shootin' if you know The Horde’s rep is dead? (Skrr) They say “Coming for their necks gets you some respect We know you got that blood and it's cold” Thalmor keep tryna get me for my soul Thankful for TCW that I know Can't go fifty-fifty with no Buo (ayy, ayy) Every month, they say don't love me, but obvi puttin' on a front They gon' try and settle for white peace and make it on a run Then gon' ask me how I'm doin'? I'm upset Almost 15M on my head I can't accept, yeah 'Least it makes me feel someone tried their best, yeah Want to waste all your air, be my guest Made me drop a fleet and and some planes (boom) But I'm blessed, I just checked Hate me, never met me in the flesh Say they got some commies they gotta Pinochet That shit is in a box to the left, next to their scalps and their necks Got a lot of blood and it's cold Thalmor keep tryna get me for my soul (for my soul) Thankful for Radiance that I know (that I know) Can't go fifty-fifty with no Buo…

all color bbcodes work already lime [color=#A2FF00]lime[/color] here is a text generator site so you can pick a different shade as that one i didn't really compare to the nation color so might not be perfect https://www.stuffbydavid.com/textcolorizer

Oh I'm not experienced. I'm a simple minded stable boy with the vocabulary of a pokemon.

Can I just say you're all fricking great. Like damn this made me laugh so damn hard ?. Side note: get fricked Thalmor.

I have a better idea; do it yourself.

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I think it depends on why you're complaining about the CBs really. There do tend to be people coming out (less so this war than others) who's objections seem more procedural, that you fundamentally are playing the game wrong by not having CB, or having a bad one. These tend to be the same sorts of people who complain about alliances entering into conflicts without treaties and other issues of procedure, and they definitely need to read Pre's post. People can play how they want and don't need the approval of others to do it. But I would say there is real military and political value to a good CB, and the CB debate. In some wars, the CB can be just as important, if not more so, than the actual blitz. Sure you can win a war without one, but you're going to have a harder time winning the peace if the rest of the world comes away worried that they will be next on the chopping block. I would honestly say this is the most important aspect of CBs and the debate around them. Why people think you are attacking is going to determine how they view you post-war. If you go around attacking anyone who might be a threat, or just because you can, that's going to cause problems later. The last thing you want is everyone else feeling like they're next. Do you want coalitions? Because that's how you get coalitions. Its why we tried to come up with good CB's in the SK-Guardian-Mensa days, even when half the time the reason was just "you're a threat, we're eliminating you." And of course even if the public CB is the real one, if the enemy can cast doubt on that fact it can still weaken your position. I'm sure you know this, but its worth stating because it seems like something many haven't considered. So for KT-TGH, complaining about and arguing over the CB is a way to paint a target on TKRs back. If they can successfully construe the war as a wanton act of aggression by the largest alliances in the game, the rest of orbis is more likely to get worried and potential set aside their differences and come together to strike TKR later. On the other hand, if TKR successfully portrays this as a justified response to repeated provocations, we're all less likely to fear that TKR is looking to throw its weight around, and will likely continue focusing on our own squabbles. In this case how the CB is perceived will setup future conflicts. tl:dr - Having a good CB or undermining one is important for warding off coalitions or setting up future wars by painting one side in a negative light.Argue for that point, flavor, or RP. But if you think an alliance actually needs a reason to fight, or they are fundamentally doing it wrong and illegitimate, you need to listen to Pre.

50% of orbis be like: 50% be like: MDL be like:

I'll bite. A little. Just a nibble! Really, I see the CB debate as part of an associated pr war, which is important for negotiations, as you say, and all the things that happen between wars. There's a sliding scale of validity in reasons to attack another alliance that everyone has a place on, and people try to make their reasoning look as appealing to other parties as they possibly can. It's bullshit in the sense that you can't quantify or pin down its effects, but not in the sense that it's meaningless, because it's not meaningless to a lot of people. "Just because the reason for the war might not seem like a reason to you, doesn't mean it's not a reason for the attacker." This is true enough. But why wouldn't it work in reverse? "Just because your reason for war seems valid to you, doesn't mean it's a reason for the defender." The friction between those two statements is political fodder, which is a thing we are here for.

Valid CB.

What my enemies think I do: What my allies think I do: What I think I do: What I actually do:

Legends tell of a Great Hippo. A prophet of Dio. A fierce warrior. Who, when reborn in the belly of a snake, ascended to godhood. Embolden by nearly unlimited power and a great PR campaign, this green hippopotamus decided to form his own alliance, known as The Golden Echo Chamber. Their stated goal was simple: to war and war often. This golden chamber attracted followers from all over such as Fanag the Hawk, Keynes the Persuasive, and Justin the Sassy. However, a great darkness infiltrated their chamber. These nefarious agents, such as Arkiri the Hateful and Settra the OOCer Attacker, tortured the land. They persecuted the less fortunate and bullied children. Buorhann asked his friend Horsecock the Horse Cock (who was as smart as his name suggests) what he should do about this mess. "My magnificent hippo, your PR is so great thanks to your recent success, all will believe your every word. Simply make as many excuses as your mouth allows and the fools who hear you will believe it.” Emboldened by this advice, Buorhann set out, determined to take as little accountability for his alliance’s actions as possible. Soon afterwards, they set out on a great campaign. A coalition had been formed against the empire known only as Roqovia. They despised Roqovia for their perceived inaction, avoidance of war, and a particular dislike of hamsters in general. Determined to prove their worth, The Golden Echo Chamber set out and fought Roqovia’s most powerful dukedoms such as Polaris and ODN. From the stats they accumulated, it would have been easy to mistakenly believe they intentionally targeted the ones who they thought would be the easiest targets. The war, however, soon began to turn against them. With a possible defeat in sight, Buorhann decided to betray the values he had learned as a Prophet of Dio and sacrifice the morals he founded The Golden Echo Chamber upon. He did the unthinkable, something that had never been done before. He signed a 6 month NAP. Now Buorhann was in a panic. How would he explain doing the very thing he sought out to oppose? But, then he remembered his old friend Horsecock’s advice. So, with a twinkle in his eye, he announced to the world, “It is literally everyone else’s fault that we did this. In fact, it is mainly the fault of those we did not invite to join this war.” Buorhann smiled contently, thinking all would believe this obvious lie. However, he was wrong. Deep in his laboratory, the Radiant Scientist Lordship analyzed what Buorhann had said “After running several calculations, I can confirm what this bruh is saying does not add up,” he announced. Now Buorhann was furious. “Damn that Lordship. How could he have seen through my brilliant and impenetrable bluff?” Soon tensions grew between The Golden Echo Chamber and the Radiant Kingdom. After extensive research via the scientific method, Lordship eventually discovered that The Golden Echo Chamber was plotting an attack upon the Radiant Kingdom. Lordship stood before the Kingdom and proclaimed “My bruhs. We have no choice but to stand up to these villains and expose their lies and treachery.” With this, the two sides went to war. What happens from here has yet to be uncovered…

I didn't know people used missiles.

@Micchan just letting you know that, if you need any help with getting manually the war stats... you are on your own.

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alerta, alerta, antifascista! o7 TRF

This was already covered here Congratulations, you are now on the same plane of posting as Steve. That's the biggest L anyone is going to take this war.

You absolute madman.

I always vote for war.

President Lidia Korczak of the French Union “The French Union strongly condemns the acts of religious discrimination perpetrated by the Scandinavian Government in an attempt to single out and raise tensions among catholic communities stretched across the country. As a predominantly Catholic Country, the French Union is actively watching the manner and have taken Overt and Covert steps to ensure violence against Catholics does not occur. We call upon the Scandinavian Government to step up and denounce any attacks on Catholics as a response to their critical single-outing of Catholics. We call on the Viking King to step up and act with Morality; for which the French Union will not sit idle as its Catholic Brethren are killed by Pagan and Hate-Groups inspired by the Viking King and his rash actions. The ice of the Scandinavian people represents purity and welcoming, do not let that turn into devilish red with the blood of Catholics.

Which is more logical, sitting on a home game with 20 other players for 10 minutes waiting for someone else to play away games and making 0 money or playing a few away games to get other people to play away games so you all get a few home games in there as well? You have to give a little to get a lot. It's really not that hard to understand.

Just a comment on this alone. While I do agree that treasures probably needed changed in some way, the best way to create a cycle of change in alliance dominance is not to nerf what the best alliances are doing, but to add new features to the game that the underdog alliances can use to overthrow the power structure. People always respond better to getting new toys to play with rather than taking parts off their old ones. Sometimes the people on top will stay on top for a while, but people don't deserve to be on top just because you decided there should be a cycle. They should be on top because they decided they want to do better and be better and become the ones on top.