[BLOC] Return Eternal

[Miller]

Enjoy the inevitable dogpile. 

[Ducc Zucc]

Maybe now Eclipse will take real damage

[Majima Goro]

9 hours ago, hidude45454 said:

Except that this is the closest we have ever come to minispheres by far. Just as we came this close to greatness certain people decided to go in the complete opposite direction. All this does is give the people who made this sphere an excuse to justify something which, I daresay, at least some of them knew was an indication that something has gone horribly wrong.

Friend, we never truly have had minispheres. TKR-T$ time, all "minispheres" joined together to dogpile them. Then we had EMC 2.0 forming a sphere with absolute upper tier control vs Oasis-Rose. Then we have had Ro$e and now we have Reclipse and Oasis 3.0

Going by this logic, we have always have had a supersphere at one time or another which a minisphere would not be able to defeat. In such a situation, it almost becomes necessary for these smaller people to consolidate. 

As long as power imbalances exist, a true minisphere world can never be formed. As long as one side has even a bit more power, the other side will be forced to gain more power. And gaining power via more bodies is faster, easier and cheaper than going the route of rigorous training. 

The concept of minispheres is like Communism. Great on paper, horrible in execution.

12 hours ago, Horsecock said:

But it did. Checkmate, atheists.

Except that each time all these minispheres would chain via sekrit treaties, inevitably creating a big sphere.

25 minutes ago, Mitsuru said:

Especially if you're Rose who hasn't shown any competence in a hot while.

I haven't seen any alliance show competence save a few in the past 5 years.

[MrBeast6000]

6 hours ago, Shabriri said:

Midguard fairly easily, give us a fight that is, but they likely won't win with current tiering

Edit: But as we have shown, anything is possible in love and war ❤️

Friend, you need to stop smoking that zaza.

4 hours ago, Pascal said:

The justification : stop believing in minispheres with GGO around.

Yw.

At the end of the day. Everyone now realizes that Eclipse doesn't care about minispheres unless they are on top. And it's funny about how it's all about GGO, but if we weren't here, the game would be going after y'all and TEst for having a strong whale tier as well. Pixel huggers will always make pixel hugger moves to potentially avoid having to fight challenging wars. And y'all have shown that for a long time now.

Edited September 10, 2022 by darkblade

[Arthur Wellington]

Previous poster might very well be spot on but using 'y'all' twice makes you sound like Bush Jr. We don't have hidden WMD's!

[Pascal]

29 minutes ago, darkblade said:

At the end of the day. Everyone now realizes that Eclipse doesn't care about minispheres unless they are on top.

I mean I used to care. And yes, I was naive to think that, because I still fail to see balanced wars and GGO certainly isn't a pioneer on that matter either. The only people who pull out fights they can "lose" is HoF, nobody else has any right to complain about "minispheres" not being a thing. Certainly not you, you never will.

29 minutes ago, darkblade said:

And it's funny about how it's all about GGO, but if we weren't here, the game would be going after y'all and TEst for having a strong whale tier as well. Pixel huggers will always make pixel hugger moves to potentially avoid having to fight challenging wars. And y'all have shown that for a long time now.

You can cry all you want, but there is a huge strength gap between GGO and TEst and TEst was in fact never in a position to 1v1 Grumpy, let alone GGO. But let's say i'm still waiting for GGO's first challenging offensive war too then (... unless you call hitting unmilitarized opponents challenging maybe ...) 🙏

[Xi Jinping]

7 hours ago, Shabriri said:

Midguard fairly easily, give us a fight that is, but they likely won't win with current tiering

Edit: But as we have shown, anything is possible in love and war ❤️

 

7 hours ago, Luna Moonfang said:

Midgard from the top of my head, they're pretty huge.

Bro what. Midgard would get swatted the !@#$ down. Not only is this new sphere significantly bigger, y’all’s tiering is an average of like 5-10 cities higher. Would be an absolute field day.

[Mayor]

7 hours ago, Shabriri said:

Midguard fairly easily, give us a fight that is, but they likely won't win with current tiering

Holy shit that was funny. Thanks for the laugh.

If a challenging fight to you guys is Midgard then that truly explains everything. And trust me when it comes to Midgard they have a lot more issues militarily than simply tiering and would be utterly no match for Rose/Eclipse.

[YangMoment]

7 hours ago, Ramona said:

Yup, no sphere/bloc would be able to win against RosEC, thanks for playing. 👍

Absolute behemoth mate, watch out.

 😱

Also, straight to name-dropping  Midgard. Looks like RosEC already has their Christmas gift on their mind, if Rose has the patience that is to wait that long. 

bold of you to assume they would even consider fighting one another when they could team up and crush everyone else

[Allend Goodblood]

People do be salty. Goodluck friends you’ll need it.

[MrBeast6000]

58 minutes ago, Pascal said:

I mean I used to care. And yes, I was naive to think that, because I still fail to see balanced wars and GGO certainly isn't a pioneer on that matter either. The only people who pull out fights they can "lose" is HoF, nobody else has any right to complain about "minispheres" not being a thing. Certainly not you, you never will.

You can cry all you want, but there is a huge strength gap between GGO and TEst and TEst was in fact never in a position to 1v1 Grumpy, let alone GGO. But let's say i'm still waiting for GGO's first challenging offensive war too then (... unless you call hitting unmilitarized opponents challenging maybe ...) 🙏

I think we both can agree that minispheres is an almost impossible idea since it requires everyone to bend to the rules of it. And alliances don't want to be at the bottom. And even before I joined guardian I don't think GG were big proponents of it at all.

As for me crying out about the gap, you got it wrong friend. I may think it's a cowards move personally since there is no sphere that can take y'all on 1v1, but I'm gonna play devils advocate and applaud this move since I think this RoseXEclipse villain arc will make politics very interesting and more fun unlike these past few months.

As for GGO not having a challenging war GW25 was a challenging war not only for GGO but for the whole of HW. Yes we did hit them while they were somewhat demilled but 1. considering how big of a upper tier they had, it would have been almost impossible to win had they been milled. The spy war wasn't easy as well since it took everyone to win it, and TI getting ignored by Celestial. 2. Celestial had all the info they needed to not only prepare for the war, but to prepare a counter blitz on HW. They had the info detailing when we were gonna hit them, and how we were gonna hit them. As for how they didn't act upon it, don't ask me. As for y'all, Clock had the power to take on HW back when y'all had HoF and Aurora, what happened there? got some cold feet?

Edited September 10, 2022 by darkblade

[MrBeast6000]

Guess a no response means an admission of defeat.

[Charles Bolivar]

8 hours ago, Pascal said:

I mean I used to care. And yes, I was naive to think that, because I still fail to see balanced wars and GGO certainly isn't a pioneer on that matter either. The only people who pull out fights they can "lose" is HoF, nobody else has any right to complain about "minispheres" not being a thing. Certainly not you, you never will.

You can cry all you want, but there is a huge strength gap between GGO and TEst and TEst was in fact never in a position to 1v1 Grumpy, let alone GGO. But let's say i'm still waiting for GGO's first challenging offensive war too then (... unless you call hitting unmilitarized opponents challenging maybe ...) 🙏

Whilst you may view catching an opponent in a unmilitarised state as lacking much challenge, I tend to believe it's the height of folly to willingly give up any and all possible strategic advantage in the name of 'fairness'.

After all, there is little difference between managing to catch an opponent both off guard and unmilitarised, and bringing numerical superiority in terms of nations against a fully militarised foe in my opinion. All is fair as the expression goes.

Also, o7 to this treaty announcement and everything it validates and invalidates. 

Respect 👍

 

 

Edited September 11, 2022 by Charles Bolivar

[Luna Moonfang]

22 hours ago, Ramona said:

Absolute behemoth mate, watch out.

 

our timbers are shivering from the mere thought of Midgard 😥

[Bollocks]

We should set up a formal quarterly alliance swap, guardian for rose; cool?

[Hodor]

Y'all can't be serious. GGO has less than 100 members. You're currently beating them in a war without using the full size of your sphere. What the !@#$ are you smoking? It's like y'all saw that t$ admitted it's paranoia around GG and you took that as an invitation to dive in and show them what real paranoia looks like.

[Avatar Patrick]

On 9/9/2022 at 7:11 PM, Canbec said:

I couldn't possibly imagine a more fitting follow-up to Celestial than seeing the #1 and #2 alliances join together to form a new sphere.

So Eclipse is #1 now that we're talking about alliance ranks. Why are we still looked at separately from Test when it comes to war stats? 🤔

[penpiko]

17 minutes ago, Avatar Patrick said:

So Eclipse is #1 now that we're talking about alliance ranks. Why are we still looked at separately from Test when it comes to war stats? 🤔

I think he meant Rose for #1 :galaxybrain:. Also if you're not the same alliance in game that's just how most bots work they'll do alliance per alliance stats, feel free to combine or whatever I don't think anyone is stopping you. 

[Krampus]

1 hour ago, Avatar Patrick said:

So Eclipse is #1 now that we're talking about alliance ranks. Why are we still looked at separately from Test when it comes to war stats? 🤔

Because 1) TEST is a different alliance in game, despite being under Eclipse's banner 2) bot makers are lazy, and can't be arsed to keep track of alliance offshoot number 97 

You can just merge the AAs and you'll be shown under Eclipse's stats, lol

[Thalmor]

4 hours ago, Hodor said:

Y'all can't be serious. GGO has less than 100 members. You're currently beating them in a war without using the full size of your sphere. What the !@#$ are you smoking? It's like y'all saw that t$ admitted it's paranoia around GG and you took that as an invitation to dive in and show them what real paranoia looks like.

I really want to see a response from the Ouroboros peeps to this. Seems like a pretty damning framing of the situation,  but perhaps I'm the one missing something.

[J Kell]

On 9/10/2022 at 12:47 PM, darkblade said:

Everyone now realizes that Eclipse doesn't care about minispheres unless they are on top

Truth is, no one cares about mini spheres or "balancing" unless they are the ones with the power to broker it

Edited September 11, 2022 by J Kell

[Xi Jinping]

14 hours ago, Luna Moonfang said:

our timbers are shivering from the mere thought of Midgard 😥

You are in the only part of Celestial 2.0 that would be quickly dispatched by Midgard.

[Indger]

On 9/10/2022 at 4:03 PM, Shabriri said:

can very well compete for non c31+

What happens when the extra c30+ people start downdeclaring lol?

[MrBeast6000]

On 9/10/2022 at 5:40 AM, Krampus said:

Rose: "midgard can roll us!!!"
 

meanwhile rose outnumber them 100 to 20 after c30

 

Krampus, they are clearly talking about Midgard's low tier hegemoney. It's so op.

Edited September 12, 2022 by darkblade

[Keegoz]

7 hours ago, darkblade said:

Krampus, they are clearly talking about Midgard's low tier hegemoney. It's so op.

Reading this thread was kinda a wild ride. At one stage Oreo seems to be saying they need 500+ nations to deal with GGO because the lower tiers don't matter and the whales are OP. Then they argue that Midgard (a low to mid tier sphere) is a match for their sphere (a upper to whale tier sphere).