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https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=21742&display=war Alex this is clearly slot filling to protect a bank SS from Don You successfully gathered intelligence about Felandia. Your spies discovered that Felandia has 60 spies, $18,324,196,513.37, 642,018.61 coal, 381,645.98 oil, 495,470.54 uranium, 406,279.71 lead, 240,552.88 iron, 347,527.08 bauxite, 1,310,698.70 gasoline, 1,288,946.90 munitions, 1,269,060.61 steel, 885,651.07 aluminum, and 5,294,247.79 food. Your agents were able to operate undetected. The operation cost you $72,746.13 and 0 of your spies were captured and executed. Save this information; if you leave this page you will be able to see this intelligence report under your espionage notifications. Spy op by Em

This should be punished as harshly as hiding a bank in vm, since in effect that’s what they are doing.

I know what to do.

Finally a lasting peace and an end to needless conflict. Now we can all instead work together in a 9000 nation cooperative baseball league, spamming til our hearts are content...infinite cash..everyone just getting-right-along...bygones are finally bygones... 40 cities and 10,000 infra will now be the new norm and we can all agree 90 windmills is the way to go... When peace becomes tiresome, we will simply delete our own nations and the server will go quiet....our own final version of Nirvana finally a reality...but we won't know it...as we will be somewhere out in the sun

Wow..... For someone who's trying to be "inclusive" you're really hurtful to the elderly gentlemen that live in Ronny's retirement home. Only one 'G' at the end??? For shame good sir.... Grumpy deserve recognition for their great work in sitting around and occasionally dropping score to attack, only to get wrecked.

║\ ║▒\ ║▒▒\ ║░▒║ ║░▒║with this blade ║░▒║i cut those who ║░▒║disrespect ║░▒║Knights Templar ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ║░▒║ ▓▓▓▓ [█▓] [█▓] [█▓] [█▓] You're next, degenerate.

I never wanted to breed with anyone more than I want to with Asuka. That perfect, curvy body. Those bountiful breasts. The child bearing hips of a literal goddess. It honestly fricking hurts knowing that I'll never mate with her, pass my genes through her, and have her birth a set of perfect offspring. I'd do fricking ANYTHING for the chance to get Asuka pregnant. A N Y T H I N G. And the fact that I can't is quite honestly too much to fricking bear. Why would Gainax and Anno create something so perfect? To fricking tantalize us? fricking laugh in our faces?! Honestly guys, I just fricking can't anymore. frick.

I'm sorry, but you know too much.

And who's fault is it really you couldn't retain your own members? It's like if another employer offered me better pay and a higher position doing the same work than my current job, it would be dumb of me not to take that opportunity. Poaching lol, so dumb.

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KERCHTOG + Coalition B vs. Coalition W (Weebs) We need to purge the forums and the game of these damn weebs and restore orbis PnW to a safe family-friendly game @Alex join our cause

You ever heard the saying "If they cheated on someone with you, you shouldn't date them"? Well. Some people learn that lesson the hard way.

@alyster yes, Boris agrees entirely, Boris has always stood up for anti-weeb action and he won't stop now, we need a game wide anti-weeb movement, no matter what alliance you are in you can say no to weebs. (And declare wars on them)

SK > SK > SK

No kidding I knew a guy who had 16 windmills in his cities with 4k Infra. Not going to name drop but was glad when he got rid of them,

I totally agree with what you're saying. The issue is this type of thing is what passes for the game's culture. There's never really been a stigma against being overly antagonistic and the forum moderation is rather minimal. This thread would have been closed a long time ago. It's always been people slinging shit at each other and it's not changed. Everyone would need to be a lot less of a tough guy and also not get baited. The problem is this game has always had lax standards in terms of how people post at each other or interact. Trolling people is dismissed as being mere banter and totally not meant, but we all see that negativity ends up pervading the atmosphere. It would require a different mindset from both the staff and the players to engender that civility.

The politics of this game is getting beyond ridiculous... I've been observing topics like this silently since the war began and quite frankly, it's appalling how political this whole fiasco has became... I'm a relatively new player being only roughly six months in the game. Yet having said that, even I can see how pointless and fruitless this political game everyone is playing is... I know it's called Politics and War, but the politics side of it has spiraled out of control in a very bad way... The toxicity of these topics is not in anyway helpful to the community. It's pathetic that all almost everyone seems to do is play the 'he said, she said' game. I'm a proud member of TKR, but having said that, I frankly don't care at this point WHY NPO declared on us. I'm also not interested in the accusations that both sides have been throwing out about secret treaties with one another as so many have pointed out. All I know, and all that matters is we are at war. And after three months of these back and forth political games, I could care less HOW we got to this point. We all have our opinions about what's happened and why, and I'm not going to debate that. What's really getting under my skin though is the pathetic, crude behavior and finger pointing that's happened on both sides since the entire war began. This pitiful display has done absolutely NOTHING to make the game stand out in an appealing light... You guys are worried about one side or the other killing the game? You should be more worried about every individual playing this game killing it... I've read this from a few people alrady, but you all do understand that this is just a game, right? There are real people on the other side of the net that use games like this as a distraction from life, or play just for fun. Another human being just like yourself who has a life they live, hobbies they enjoy, jobs they work at, people they interact with...a real, true human being. Yet, every seems to miss that and take things so seriously to a point where we can't even have civil discussions without politics getting in the way. I haven't been around long enough to know or understand if this kind of talk is the norm, but this kind of behavior shouldn't be acceptable in any form... Keep it up, and you won't have to worry about either coalition killing the game. The toxicity of our own words and pointless crap that keeps getting spewed out will do that for us by hindering a potential pathway forward into the future. If you don't want this game to end up falling apart and dying, there is going to have to be civility or else you might as well just ring the bell of death for this game now... My two cents.

Congrats on your non-hegemony:

256, soon 512, then 1024... Confirmed robots

Our long sleep has been interrupted by a few alliances. Not sure of all of their names, Back Knights and the Sidekicks or something. Pretty cheesy band name, and not half the racket you would expect. Maybe they are just upset that they weren't invited to the party. It really was quite a party - took 2 years to sleep it off. Anyhow, nice to fight again, and we will be disregarding the advice coming from vocal subs in some places.

I.... was kidding you. I... thought that I obvious.......

In a funny twist of events, the move which was supposed to protect the bank drew all the attention in Orbis that the guy is inactive and has dozens of billions on him. Awesome.

Que shit show in 3, 2, 1,

Good job BK nation I won't name

It's up to you whether you trust us or not. Horsemen wrote a dramatic essay and Raoul frequently has embellished stuff for literary purposes in his previous RP posts. It was sorted out in private that they weren't lied to and we didn't want to air the dirty laundry out here. As for the Syndicate thing, there were differences in interpretation of the extent of our commitment to their document. There was even disagreement whether it would be binding on HS/NPO. For Sisyphus it was a big deal to uphold it as he saw his reputation as being on the line and that he had put his and tS' credibility into it, so I could understand why he/they felt that way, but it wasn't as a cut and dry to us in terms of its binding nature and there is the saying "The constitution isn't a suicide pact." I at no point swore off expanding if the circumstances necessitated expanding and it was brought up in-depth that we would do it and why. I don't really know what you think lying entails but lying for me is saying something false intentionally, which wasn't done in those cases.

None, actually.

Shady shit? Horsemen wanted to go for it and they did. I'm quite certain tS/HS know our reasons for entering the war/expanding given how we spent some time talking to them regarding the information we have. I mean if you're going to run such a narrative, at least find real issues. The NPO always acts in its best interests and has informed it's allies of its move every step of the way. You telling us you have no interest in a conflict, was opposite of what we had, and we'd find it hard to believe you when it was literally the middle of the war and in your best interests to not have us intervene. So no, the NPO didn't buy Adrienne's rejection of that conversation and you folk busy trying to spin it as, there was going to be no expansion this war, does not mean you would not hit the N$O in a few months after BKsphere's down. So yeah, we weren't going to wait around again for you to build up in strength if we had to. Made no sense whatsoever, after considering a variety of scenarios. Nah you don't, but it comes to down to you had a threat and you dealt with it, and so did we. Aww thanks :)

Some people have weird role models.

Hannibal had a lot of initial success, but no staying power and eventually ended up losing the war in devastating fashion. Why does that sound familiar?

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I mean the point at the end of the day, which if you read what I'm stating is, you hit them because you thought they were a threat. We hit TKR because thought they were a threat. There's no other way to go about it. To claim that somehow only you have that agency here, while we cannot is bordering ridiculousness. All of your arguments fall flat the moment you try to argue that we can't hit threats when we've received information which was newer than a month old logs. I'm not insinuating there was no intention to hit you. I have no clue if post May they wanted to, or thought otherwise, and it's not my problem. What I am pointing out is how you're arguments seem to allow space only for your side's agency in defending against threats, while if we do it, we're "killing the game." The NPO doesn't need to play by rules. Heck there are no world rules regarding actions one can take to make the game interesting for themselves. If by dynamic and competitive, you mean you folk are free to consolidate/combine and do as you please, while we cannot initiate our own actions to keep the game fun for us, you've essentially created your own hegemony. The NPO never said we're all in with minispheres the way KETOGG/Chaos wanted to play it. We made it clear there's a project with the N$O idea and we're going for that, on our own terms. We never said we'll never again combine with BK, and we never stated we won't combine with anyone else. You don't have a hegemony on the prevailing foreign affairs meta, so its best to stop projecting it as the rules of the meta. Our word has always been that we will protect our interests and our security. To claim we've always attempted to create a hegemony especially the way you constructed that sentence is dripping of bias from elsewhere, given how none of our actions in the last four years in Orbis has ever come close to wanting to create a hegemony. If you didn't know, we've spent close to three years surviving, rather than even winning wars. To constantly use these terms as some sort of moral cudgel is absolutely hilarious, but if anyone is here attempting to create what they always knew, that is an hegemony its Chaos/KETOGG busy trying to consolidate and roll folks as they please.

We...didn't say that? Keshav said that NPO wasn't aware of anything more than you all were, not that anyone couldn't have guessed BK might want to hit Chaos. What NPO wasn't privy to were logistical details of a prospective BK hit against Chaos because, like Keshav also said, we didn't agree to one. A hunch that BK's dislike of Chaos might turn into an aggressive war against Chaos isn't the same as knowledge of an aggressive war. Is it possible that you projected your conceptions of politics onto NPO's word and actions? NPO has been pretty consistent in voicing its skepticism of minispheres as a concept since long before they were formed; I'm not sure why anyone would have thought NPO's attitudes towards them matched those of minispheres' loudest proponents. Our actions before and during this war have been consistent with our synthesis of dynamism and self-interest. Many of us are disappointed about how things turned out as well, but don't say we didn't give everyone else numerous chances to engage with us over our misgivings. I don't recall ever attempting to establish a hegemony, let alone coming anywhere close to it. Could you point me to where we've done so? What "word" did we go back on?

You got KKKanceled.

Don't you have to sell your improvements to sell down? Having them get blown up saves your improvements, especially when it's exclusively from air. This is a very real reason for keeping the infra. From what I can see the only reason you all would want us to sell our infra is to lessen the damage stat padding going on from it. To which is the point of my post in the stats thread about Yarr not being listed on the stats. We're in neither coalition A or B, and shouldn't be accounted for as such. I suppose you could be hoping we'd sell down and more quickly help engage a lower tier front -- but Yarr is not part of your coalition. Our goal is not to slug it out. We are truly retired. Please note I don't speak for Swagrr. They are their own alliance and I wish them the best in however they carry on during this conflict. Yarr's goal is a swift end to our conflict and a return to our retirement beach hammocks.

In a time where toxicity is rampant on the forums and there is not an ounce of empathy in a game where 28 city whales prey on the weak and defenseless 8 city nations, only one place offers refuge for the weary, the kindhearted, the poets, philosophers, and the peaceful. My inbox apparently.

The logs you dropped of TKR thinking on hitting IQ earlier this year before they supposedly disbanded and your arguments for NPOs involvement here. Sounds like you’re shit out of luck then! Either get rolled by your paranoia of KETOG or get rolled for lack of subservience to NPO/BK!

KETOG, Chaos, and Rose nations trying desperately to build tanks and ships to get above 5k score and hide be like:

We're gonna need a bigger boat.

WHEN STATISTICS PROVE YOU ARE WINNING BUT WHEN THEY AREN'T STATISTICS AREN'T EVERYTHING!

So the intent of my posts in this thread are mainly just about clarifying information in regard to t$ when we are mentioned. So I'm going to respond to this as well. The agreement between BK and NPO is not a foundational doctrine of the NPO/t$/HS grouping. At most, only one person from t$/HS knew of it (i.e. no one from HS knew about it), and that person is now inactive and can neither confirm nor deny the claims in question. If the claim is true that Kayser did indeed agree to this, he never informed anyone else in t$. It is also important to note that a single tri in t$ doesn't even have the authority to unilaterally agree to such a term on behalf of t$, as it would require support from the other two tri's as well. So he could have agreed to support it himself and to try and convince the rest of t$ gov, but he could not commit t$ to it himself. Additionally, when the new head of FA (one of our oldest members and former tri, Sisyphus/Wilhelm) took over following Kayser's departure, the 'doctrine' was never mentioned to him at all by allied gov until after NPO approached t$ about expanding the war beyond Guardian and GOB, even though if it was considered something that t$ had agreed to, it would had made sense to bring it up far earlier and quite aggressively. So that tells you that NPO was aware of the validity of this 'doctrine' when it came to t$. So maybe this is something Kayser said he would support, but I have no doubt he never would have been able to make it happen even if he was still around—maybe that explains some things... And anyone with basic knowledge of how triumvirates work and internal t$ politics would know the same. So this could be another strategic miscalculation on NPO's part to try to make a side agreement with an individual gov member, but not the gov in itself; or it could be something was lost in translation between Kayser and NPO. With Kayser no longer being around, it is hard to say. But I can say that not only was it not a foundational doctrine of the NPO/t$/HS grouping, it wasn't something that t$/HS agreed to at all. heh, I creeped on you and saw your nation is penis shaped. What a glorious feat. If only all nations were penis shaped. I approve.