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BK has never been shy about going to war when they needed to or were bored, which was probably the case here. They were bored and someone gave then an excuse. If you don't like it, do something about it, otherwise bugger off.

Listening to AK complain about stolen money is cute. Truly is.

this is hilarious and i feel no sympathy although i also agree trying to settle things diplomatically is usually good to try first , but since AK didnt give us that opportunity when we talked to them (MAGE disbandment and raids on their members who didnt even know they had been couped yet) they totally had this coming

In the spirit of fun and bloodshed, I have written a program that automatically creates a target list given a list of offensive and defensive alliances. I am willing to let anyone use it...for a price. Message me in-game or on Discord with the total number of offensive and defensive nations involved and additional specifications that you may need. Alliance names can be disclosed after confirmation of services, and the price can be paid right around war declaration time in order to ensure confidentiality. I'd be more than happy to engage in a back-and-forth discussion if necessary! I look forward to making things a little more exciting, and good luck warring! Sample target list between several random micros: https://goo.gl/gFa3KM

tfw you just wanted some quick cash but now BK is bending you over and prepping the probe. It really do be like that sometimes

I recently made a podcast episode for Politics and War and you all should listen to it. It's mostly my experience on the game and my thoughts on it. Hope ya'll like it.

I could ask you the same. Alot of people say this to be some sort of burn, i guess? In the short-ish time ive been playing this game in a capacity greater than a drone, i've been gov in a major alliance, which i eventually couped and robbed. I hid in a micro and helped build it because i trusted the leaders, one left, than the other brokedown, in part my fault as well. A failed merger crippled the aa more when those left, resulting in coup #2 and my second acquisition of a bank. During my time in the micro, i even raided part of CS's offshore bank during Ayyslamic crusade, helping put another aa down. This course of events has not only lead directly as a significant contributing factor to the sort of revival Pantheon is having under Fist, by making it's foundations so weak he could waltz in. This revival is no a key part ins T$ return to the light, and my actions taken in the way they were have only strengthened the foundations for the future death of a titan. Nobody stays #1 forever, i guess. And to top it all off, instead of hugging my newfound pixels, i joined the only alliance with a greater guarantee of destroying them than any other aa that is not Arrgh. So, tell me, who are you? And infact, who the hell is your alliance? You've fought what, one major war - or war at all, as far as i know? Sure, i haven't started one yet, but at somepoint, everything i've done will be just one group of clouds in a horrific typhoon bound for somebody's shores. What's pathetic here is your attempt to play the relevancy game, while your entire alliance struggles to outpace a single person in relevance. When people speak your alliance's name they go "Didn't they fight in that one war?"and then 10 seconds later somebody mentions how their allies in it lamented about their performance. Mine comes with a shortlist, and then everyone remarking that my only redeeming quality is that i cause crap to happen on a regular basis. I checked the wiki, there's two other 'wars' against Arrgh. You don't war arrgh, you just counter them. They're basically in perma-war with everyone. Call me back when your alliance is more relevant than i am. I'm not even that big not yet. Partisan is still leagues above me, and someone could easily argue Kastor is still above me too. I'm basically the groundfloor boss in a 30 floor dungeon and you can't get past me. God forbid the other floors, you'd never survive the Hippo Khan floor. What do you go around talking for? Tell me more than one thing your entire alliance has done that had any significant far-reaching impact. Cause all i see - and to quote whoever that guy was as TKR's FA tryina treaty NPO a while back, "Just a bunch of perennial actors". Alright, that's enough ego-stroking for a month, maybe two. Possibly three. I'm supposed to be an ego-less depressant, so this was weird. I do like ranting though, relieves stress, so thanks for that. Place your bets on the downvotes, guys. The snake is far more forgiving than i am, then. When a solo actor starts outperforming a whole troop, i can't help but wonder.

All great alliance die young, that’s what makes them great.

You still have my tiara? Lost it in the packing.

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I'm naming my next city "Phoenixia" in honor of this!

SG is an extension of Camelot, and has always been treated as such. Like I have said multiple times before, AK knew damn well of this and a small little mistake in the alliance description doesn't break all ties

Not really, no. I don't banter.

It only makes sense...

Hey there Partiboy. I’m sure it’s possible that DAK overlooked something, but since when has sloppiness been a defense for fricking up? Given the whole Oblivion-tC debacle, it’s pretty clear that you don’t believe in the necessity of treaties for intervention. For the sake of argument, let’s say that big bad BK is bullying helpless little DAK without reason. Will t$ step in to defend its protectorate from this unwarranted attack or is Orbis forever doomed to live under jackbooted IQ hegemony?

Ah, yes. The classic FA move. Retroactively claim protection over an AA to feign defense instead of just admitting you're helping your fumbling protectorate play World Police, while ignoring standard diplomatic practices entirely. How did no one see this coming?!

That would be a more fair argument if it were the case, but the treaty between Camelot and SG had been edited to become an extension, when during the entire situation it had been an MD tie. If the edit had been made publicly and beforehand, this wouldn't be an issue, but as it is Camelot is looking awfully scummy for changing that retroactively and hoping nobody would notice. Same with BK for trying to use it as an excuse to lawyer around treaty chess. As it is, they really could have just kept it as it was and argued exactly as you have and there wouldn't be the same kind of confusion. I mean, come the frick on BK. An irrelevant micro threatened you. That's more than enough CB. Don't piss about with retroactive treaty changes, if you want the war then declare it! Perhaps, but that doesn't mean it wasn't still there and just paperless ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

To my knowledge, they don't owe us anything at all. FAKE NEWS. btw still like that you report on us so frequently.

Not my fault you can't read Either way, AK knew damn well they were protected by BK

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Hey, next time run that shit past James before you post.

Sorry but, allow me to ask you the same thing. Kthx

Unlike a Nuke, they allow you to target certain Improvements. As for eliminating Improvements: Missiles specifically target an area, removes 1 guaranteed if successful. Nukes do 2 random, but can destroy a PP. Tactician increases chances of Imp removal for Ground and Naval. If opponent is on Pirate, Ground and Naval against them also has improved chances. Tactician on a Pirate also drastically increases the chances. If an opponent doesn’t have a Iron Dome (which is VERY likely in today’s game), Missiles become the most viable and cheap way of doing damage/Imp Removal. The only thing better is 1 Ship Tactician Raids on a Pirate user. With all of this, it’s hard to balance Improvement removal without making it broken.

Much more reasonable than what I do. Any alliance that has a member hit any of my ties, or my alliance, and I tell my Milcom to frick their alliance up. Sure gets their attention quick that way.

Gone too soon.

They signed us after the war. Don't spout falsehoods if you aren't informed.

He knew the election was on, everyone in Omega did, but no one cared.

I miss those days. We should all do a reunion tour next year.

Ayylah was calling but, you know, I could also bring up the point that AK should have dealt with this diplomatically instead of attacking. You can make the same argument for both sides...

and AYYLAH REIGNS SUPREME OVER ORBIS!! PRAYYSE AYYLAH! AYYLAHU DOGEBAR!!!

Hello again.

Hey Epi, long time. So.. you deleted it by accident. Pantheon cancelled its protectorate on the 3rd, correct? Does that mean you deleted the "An attack on us is an attack on Camelot" blip somewhere between the snapshot of the google cache and the addition of the new post-hit version? Meaning you were without that protection note for perhaps a day or so?

Syndicate isn't part of the NAP.

So, poor Dathan didn't even get his own vote? ?

So 2 people voted. Impressive.

I love how everyone is debating raiding and acting like you need to undergo years of special forces training to become a raider. This was obviously bait to see if it'd trigger a bigger conflict as the NAP is basically over and because most AAs wouldn't take this kinda shit. Unfortunately, they chose wrong and picked on UPN, the same alliance that betrayed Rose and went in to die against KT. UPN has no semblance of rep or social awareness. No one joins this game or plays it for years to ask, am I good enough to join UPN? Can I and should I sign UPN? Man, when is UPN gonna shake up the game again. UPN is like community college, it shouldn't even be in your safety school category.

Hi Placentica. Long time!

Another? You're just collecting these now.

Nice small print, there

I'm curious about which alliances he included because I think that some were probably included that shouldn't belong thus the number is inflated.

I gotta stay in character for a second. The treaty web has always been a mess. I’m having a hard time picking a sphere. Protectorates are typically the cancer that stunts the growth of alliances maturity. They run crying to their protectors rather than learning how to stand on their own feet and handle adversity. I want to be the treaty janitor this game deserves.

I should find that sheet where t$ mocked Rose relentlessly in the war that followed. Set the bar high for two weeks from now when you guys cannibalize each other. Edit: It was a long time ago, yes, Buor, but it also has been a long time since Parti was doing FA for t$.

Oh Kriegskoenig has lots of friends in addition to allies, but he also speaks truth. It just struck me that Thrax seems envious that Kriegskoenig's friends are happy to call him that in public, where Thrax has to resort to implying he has lots of friends, but few of them actually state so publicly, present company excluded.

@Iteo 1. Good idea, for now we'll just have to use the HTML table at https://politicsandwar.com/leaderboards/display=color to do this (which is a lot more work than everything else) 2. There is already an API for this (http://politicsandwar.com/api/wars/). I made a list of all the APIs I could find: Alliances http://politicsandwar.com/api/alliances/ Alliance http://politicsandwar.com/api/alliance/id= (AA ID) Alliance Bank http://politicsandwar.com/api/alliance-bank/?allianceid= (AA ID) &key= (API key) Alliance Members http://politicsandwar.com/api/alliance-members/?allianceid= (AA ID) &key= (API key) Alliance Applicants http://politicsandwar.com/api/applicants/ (AA ID) Nations: http://politicsandwar.com/api/nations/ Nation http://politicsandwar.com/api/nation/id= (nation ID) Wars http://politicsandwar.com/api/wars/ War http://politicsandwar.com/api/war/ (war ID) City http://politicsandwar.com/api/city/id= (city ID) Tradeprice http://politicsandwar.com/api/tradeprice/resource= (resource name) 3. imo it's not that important, but the nations API could do with a change just not sure what... 4. This has been brought up before I think, it would probably be a great help. 5. If you need something like this, maybe you only need Unique IDs for nations in an alliance (especially applicants). Try doing that instead of all nations.

@Ripper Do you really think anyone in Orbis is this stupid? We can all see that you raided, got countered, and are now pretending that the counters were unprovoked "attacks." Damn, bro. You have 30 cities. Never thought I'd see an alliance with weight to throw around e-lawyering like a desperate micro. I guess it's true that Arrghians can change alliances, but never lose the micro-raider attitude. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

You also can't perform military or spy actions or launch missiles/nukes if you run out of money until you no longer have a deficit or you have enough on hand to cover it during a turn change. i agree that is a little backwards I think the military lock should also apply for no food (though not for nuke/missile launches as that just makes no sense).

If you run out of money or resources to maintain your improvements then they just stop functioning and produce nothing. I'm pretty sure you keep whatever military you have. If you run out of food then your gross income is decreased to 2/3 of what it is normally. Your cities will also gradually lose population. That's all I know, I think it's accurate. Toodles

If applicants can become leaders:

Holy shit. That guy looks !@#$ creepy. I decided I wanted to make video games for a living last night. I don't know anything about creating video games but I'm a masochist who will work on everything beyond the point of self-harm. That's what "we" in the industry call "work will." I'm also really good at hitting random buttons on the keyboard, pretty sure that counts as a feature. I have no idea what I'm doing so I'm just going to make a game and hope for the best. Graphics are overrated so I'm just not going to bother, same idea with story and an actually functional game. I also don't really want to bother with making the game accessible to anyone so beginners and casuals need not apply. For some strange reason I'm unable to do less than 100% of the work. I decide to not deal with graphics or sound as they're both overrated. After a really quick coding session late one night I decided I did enough work and released the game. I don't know what any of these numbers mean, but I think 40% might be a passing grade. "Off the market" of course means I decided three months was long enough and sold the game to some random IT consultant. However, I did walk away with enough money to make another game \o/ I figured that maybe I should make the new game prettier so I massively increased the emphasis on graphics. Other than that everything is pretty much the same. Now I just need to figure out a name and theme for it... hmmm.... OH! I know! Everyone is gonna love this and I'm going to be rich and get a mansion and retire at 25 and get a smokin' wife and everything! !@#$ you disembodied voice! Those were my dreams you just shattered ;_; Also, how can this game be worse than PN? How is that even possible? Screw it, I'm just not even going to bother dealing with ME. I'm going to make a new game and it will be my pièce de résistance. This time everything will work out fine and everything will be okay. I'd aim higher but I don't want to be hurt again, not like last time... I decided a shake up was in order. Some might say this would alienate my fans but I don't have a single one for some reason. I also improved graphics once more and I'd show some screenshots if I could get MS paint working again. Anyways, time to release my game. I just want it to be at least as good as PN this time. Seriously, I just need it now to help restore my self-esteem after that last blow... Hmm, and maybe I'll lower my goals too. I'll retire at 26 this time and maybe instead of a mansion I'll get a Ferrari... Yes, I am now properly braced for whatever comes. At least I know here's no way this could end worse than ME. !@#$