Jump to content

Peace in our Time


BigMorf
 Share

Recommended Posts

46 minutes ago, Eumirbago said:

We plan dogpiles !@#$. I want to be able to quit for 2 years and come back knowing you guys are getting clapped on a biannual basis. 😌.

Will the clapping come before or after you guys sell all your military again?

  • Haha 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Ducc Zucc said:

Will the clapping come before or after you guys sell all your military again?

Not sell mil, VM. That’s the new meta. If we’re not gonna win, no one gonna win.

Just get @Horsecock to make the thread to prevent from happening.

Lxr4VfE.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Ducc Zucc said:

Don't worry we wouldn't prevent t$ mass vming, we'd applaud it

🧢 your moral supremacy wouldn’t allow it. Let @Mayor fight for what is morally right for you guys. You don’t have the makings of a varsity athlete.

  • Like 1
Lxr4VfE.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Eumirbago said:

🧢 your moral supremacy wouldn’t allow it. Let @Mayor fight for what is morally right for you guys. You don’t have the makings of a varsity athlete.

Who cares about morals friend, I'm just looking out for t$, you guys need a break. Prolonged exposure to Rose isn't safe for any community.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Ducc Zucc said:

Who cares about morals friend, I'm just looking out for t$, you guys need a break. Prolonged exposure to Rose isn't safe for any community.

@Mayor suggests we get better morals for your entertainment, so keep looking.

Lxr4VfE.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I suggest Syndicate get better at not running their sphere into the ground and maybe a bit about how not to delete your military first day of a war before you focus exclusively on improving your public perception or morals.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Mayor said:

I suggest Syndicate get better at not running their sphere into the ground and maybe a bit about how not to delete your military first day of a war before you focus exclusively on improving your public perception or morals.

[email protected]#$ you bro. This is where I draw the line! We can change our morals and ethics, but you got me [email protected]#$ed up if you think we’ll ever get into a sphere where we don’t run it to the ground dafuq. Like I said, dw, we’re gonna fricking VM first day of war next time with full mil.

  • Haha 5
Lxr4VfE.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/24/2022 at 4:35 PM, Kevanovia said:

 s*** on for it?

Kev. I'm 60% sure that you can say shit without it being censored. If not, I'm going on another hiatus from the forums. That's the main reason I'm posting this, but so that I don't get a warning... this announcement is a thing that occurred. It will definitely certainly be talked about. Very important to have been announced. (Also congrats on 12 pages. Usually only meme compilations get this far)

  • Haha 2

You shouldn't fear anything, until you've lost yourself. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, Ducc Zucc said:

Yeah I'm arguing it's a good thing that it's becoming more common, stuff actually happening in game is much better than some agreement to let a few spheres farm slightly more efficiently. The only dialogue you're getting is people calling out this move for how !@#$ it looks. Sphere to sphere MDPs are just sad, even if its conditional, if you don't feel safe with your own sphere get a new one or just deal with it, not that hard,

For your last point, I can't speak for the spheres but any war we plan at HoF isn't going to be a dogpile. It's a shame that last winter Oasis and Mystery leaders got paranoid but I can't control that, that war was definitely the least satisfying one I've been in. Dogpiling is a whole other monster that we can get into but it's not related to chaining. For chain wars the most strain is put on to the alliances chaining, the blitz is the most expensive part of the war and you gotta pay for that twice. We also don't have years of member deposits to tap into like TKR, T$, and Rose, so I don't get why people want to throw flak at this idea.

I can agree to some extent with what you are saying but I still believe situations like these are interesting and good for the game at large. Last time this happened MysterOasis got rolled hard for it, this time you can't as easily roll HW or Celestial but it doesn't mean the other spheres are without methods of dealing with it. Who said punishment had to be dished out now? You could easily wait for a future moment (after the treaty expires) and use this situation as a CB to jump one of them. Alternatively it would be quite the interesting situation to have a third party jump on HW and Celestial if they ever go to war (creating an effective 1v1v1 but with the newcomer being higher milled). 

This is why I think this shit is good, it creates short term benefits but long term problems for the parties involved, people need to stop doing politics like it's a bipolar world. Conflicts can have more that two sides with our current system and the shit storm it could create would be amazing.

(also I can appreciate the fact you don't dogpile as much as other spheres/alliances considering you stayed out this current war)

 

On a side note would a chained blitz not be quite cheap since your target has typically demilled, I would expect it to cost the opponent far more to try counter it.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Pretty pathetic to see this from both spheres. I'm disappointed in you T$. I'd expect this from HW but not you. 

On 5/26/2022 at 3:03 AM, Ducc Zucc said:

Anyone going to point out that chaining wars isn't bad at all? It's actually a good play that creates content unlike this zero chromosome play you guys just made. TKR choosing this hill to die on is especially stupid seeing as they've done the same thing twice before.

I guess Knightfall isn't present in thier memory anymore. 

  • Upvote 1

 

 

                                                                                            
 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Cooper_ said:

I'm still lost as to how an agreement to safely get to a lower MMR is being held as the same as or even similar to the Swamp-Oasis bloc-wide MDP against a potential threat.

Does intent not matter anymore?  Or for that matter the impact on the meta here, which is just to incentivize a shorter war among the combatants and not allow an easy dub on a demilitarized foe?  

Oh you beat me too this, i was going to basically say this in the other thread, but I determined making fun of BR was more important, and I didnt want to drag down my joke with actual content.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/28/2022 at 8:39 AM, Cooper_ said:

Does intent not matter anymore?

Do you not intend to use it like an MDP? (definition, since at this point I am convinced ro$ewood doesn't remember what an MDP is anymore: "a mutual agreement between participants to defend each other in case either one is attacked.")
If you don't, go ahead and get article 3 removed from the post. If you do, own it.


Now the comparison between Myoasis Inc and this treaty:

1. Mystery Inc and Oasis agree on a temporary agreement to defend each other against potential threats. 

2. Hollywood and Celestial agree on a temporary agreement to defend each  other against potential threats.

Please find me the difference because I don't see any, let me help you with one difference though, the threats Myoasis inc was paranoid about were actually capable of taking them both down at once (which eventually they did). And that may not be the case here, clock, on paper, is outnumbered by both hw and celestial in a 1v1 esp after the departure of HoF.
The conditions you have given do not affect how it is going to be used, it only affects the duration within which it can be activated and used, changes nothing at all.

You are doing no one a favor by "incentivizing a shorter war among the combatants", not even the combatants lol, all you have accomplished here is saving pixels you were probably never going to lose in the first place and you chose to pay with your reputation, fair trade I guess, just own it for once and maybe you'll have some left.

  • Upvote 5

tvPWtuA.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not sure how no one has pointed this out yet but here I go.

By signing this treaty, you have successfully painted a big red x on yourselves. You know they will come for you. Not now but they will eventually come for you. The question is when. 

Once this treaty is void, either one of you could be a target of a DoW. You might win, you might lose, that's an entirely different story. But when the CB(officially or not) used is this treaty, the party that is not hit knows it could be 'chained'. Would it then be in the favour of the second party to help party 1 and eliminate the threat with numbers OR would party 2 stay sitting, waiting for the storm to hit.

This treaty is dog poop for a reason because if we go by the so called precedence, in all cases, both parties should be rolled. But both parties can avoid being rolled by treatying each other indefinitely, bringing us back to the start of the loop and the cycle begins all over again. 

Edited by Majima Goro
I'm dumb
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Majima Goro said:

By signing this treaty, you have successfully painted a big red x on yourselves. You know they will come for you. Not now but they will eventually come for you. The question is when. 

People would attack Hollywood and Celestial anyways. Perhaps this will be added to the list of CBs but this isn’t going to make anybody go from choosing to leave either sphere alone to plotting a war. And there would be a list of CBs, this pact isn’t going to be the sole reason that somebody hits.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, Majima Goro said:

I'm not sure how no one has pointed this out yet but here I go.

By signing this treaty, you have successfully painted a big red x on yourselves. You know they will come for you. Not now but they will eventually come for you. The question is when. 

Once this treaty is void, either one of you could be a target of a DoW. You might win, you might lose, that's an entirely different story. But when the CB(officially or not) used is this treaty, the party that is not hit knows it could be 'chained'. Would it then be in the favour of the second party to help party 1 and eliminate the threat with numbers OR would party 2 stay sitting, waiting for the storm to hit.

This treaty is dog poop for a reason because if we go by the so called precedence, in all cases, both parties should be rolled. But both parties can avoid being rolled by treatying each other indefinitely, bringing us back to the start of the loop and the cycle begins all over again. 

Clock are welcome to try.

We all know after all that if either ourselves or Celestial had remained at max mil for the duration of the war, clock would not have dared to even contemplate an attack. 

Or maybe I'm wrong. Hard to tell..

Edited by Charles Bolivar

Untitled.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Sam Cooper said:

Please find me the difference because I don't see any, let me help you with one difference though, the threats Myoasis inc was paranoid about were actually capable of taking them both down at once (which eventually they did). And that may not be the case here, clock, on paper, is outnumbered by both hw and celestial in a 1v1 esp after the departure of HoF.
The conditions you have given do not affect how it is going to be used, it only affects the duration within which it can be activated and used, changes nothing at all.

I don't think HW is scared of a clock 1 v 1.  Don't get me wrong it would be a hard fight, but if we're militarized I think it'd be a competitive war for both sides.  The issue is if Clock (or BR) wanted to take advantage of our demilling to try to get an easy win.  This isn't our war, and I don't see why we have to sit here and be fully milled and lose economically while people unrelated to either of our spheres fight it out.  If Clock or BR wants to dance, then let's do it but we're not dumb enough to let them do it while we have our pants down (GnR rings bells here as a warning).  

I'd also point out that the Oasis-Swamp treaty was directly in response to a war they knew was coming to try to consolidate out of their situation.  Neither Celestial or HW intends to fight a war together because of this agreement.  I think the context–Oasis and Swamp having a historical friendship and being part of the same sphere versus the Rose/TKR and Grumpy/T$ grudges which dominated the game for the past year–also factors into these agreements.  Bitter rivals putting enmities aside to secure a political advantage is exactly how we envisioned the minispheres meta to be!

  • Upvote 2
  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Cooper_ said:

 Bitter rivals putting enmities aside to secure a political advantage is exactly how we envisioned the minispheres meta to be!

HA! This may be how you or the top 3 alliances who combined forces *envisioned* it but I promise you a hegemonic power was definitely not everyone's elses goal or vision 

  • Upvote 2

0b3897cd640f95254329f7a2d45d8c77b1c120e.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and the Guidelines of the game and community.