Popular Post Hodor Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 Partisan: Thoughtful proposal, neutral tone, open ended conclusion allowing room for dialogue. Hodor: Quality content. BK feeling left out: 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hodor said: BK feeling left out: Perpetually riding coattails 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Bro I hit my Juul like 20x reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Storm Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Jordan said: I wasn't aware that they let their non-gov members read any news that they didn't produce themselves. I've been saying this for years now, we read the forums, most of us just don't care to comment on KERCHTOG$' circlejerking. Myself excepted. What result are you hoping for? Us to agree with you and validate your self aggrandizement? Or one guy to show up with a dissenting opinion so you all can jump down his throat? This thread full of KERCHTOG$ members pretending to ponder the question of why Coalition B members aren't bumbling into a hostile environment is hilarious though ngl. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pop said: I've been saying this for years now, we read the forums, most of us just don't care to comment on KERCHTOG$' circlejerking. Myself excepted. What result are you hoping for? Us to agree with you and validate your self aggrandizement? Or one guy to show up with a dissenting opinion so you all can jump down his throat? This thread full of KERCHTOG$ members pretending to ponder the question of why Coalition B members aren't bumbling into a hostile environment is hilarious though ngl. So the reason why most of your guys don't want to post here is that there isn't enough of your guys here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cooper_ Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Pop said: I've been saying this for years now, we read the forums, most of us just don't care to comment on KERCHTOG$' circlejerking. Myself excepted. What result are you hoping for? Us to agree with you and validate your self aggrandizement? Or one guy to show up with a dissenting opinion so you all can jump down his throat? This thread full of KERCHTOG$ members pretending to ponder the question of why Coalition B members aren't bumbling into a hostile environment is hilarious though ngl. Afaik your general policy is to not let any of your members go into other servers in case they might encounter IC content without the permission of your gov. I don't think its that's much of a stretch to assume that the only the more involved players/gov ever see most of the content here. Another question would then be why we almost never see reactions like upvotes/downvotes, especially on those of NPO posters, from the NPO membership. I mean it is your internal policy, so whatever y'all want. I just think its disingenuous to then say that it's because KERCHTOGG circlejerks. That's not even considering that this is Partisan's thread (who was your ally and not KERCHTOGG) or the fact that your position is quite indefensible to the point that y'all have dropped spin in favor of just ignoring us in hopes of our arguments dying down. That being said, if any Col B member is looking for a legitimate, neutral conversation on how things are going and what our perspectives are, I'm game. I'm sure that many, including some of those who have posted in this thread, would support this as well. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 34 minutes ago, Pop said: I've been saying this for years now, we read the forums, most of us just don't care to comment on KERCHTOG$' circlejerking. Myself excepted. What result are you hoping for? Us to agree with you and validate your self aggrandizement? Or one guy to show up with a dissenting opinion so you all can jump down his throat? This thread full of KERCHTOG$ members pretending to ponder the question of why Coalition B members aren't bumbling into a hostile environment is hilarious though ngl. As was pointed out earlier your side had no problem arguing and blaming our side for the delay in talks earlier. It's only now that actual evidence has been displayed that you don't want to particpate in a "circlejerk". 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Anarch Caelum Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 hours ago, kalev60 said: Why would we even need to read OWF after KT and few others declared perma.war few months ago and should total destruction of Colo B with their rhetorics ? So you can be reminded of how bad a GOONS win would be & them riding on the coat tails of any hegemony which might come out of this. Thought police are watching, so only think happy thoughts so they can't pretend to be offended by it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hodor Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Pop said: I've been saying this for years now, we read the forums, most of us just don't care to comment on KERCHTOG$' circlejerking. Myself excepted. What result are you hoping for? Us to agree with you and validate your self aggrandizement? Or one guy to show up with a dissenting opinion so you all can jump down his throat? This thread full of KERCHTOG$ members pretending to ponder the question of why Coalition B members aren't bumbling into a hostile environment is hilarious though ngl. We’ve all played these games before to know there are shitheads in every community. The internet is antagonistic by nature because people can hide behind their screens. While I agree this war has been particularly nasty in rhetoric, the past in this game has not been unusually bad. So, to claim there is some mob of pitchforks and torches waiting to jump on a dissenting opinion is just not true. There are plenty of people, Partisan included (thus time around at least), who make genuine concerted efforts to engage civilly. If the voices of our side are amplified on OWF it is because you’ve (Not you specifically) ceded this territory to us through self pity and self imposed isolation fueled by paranoia. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Cooper_ said: Afaik your general policy is to not let any of your members go into other servers in case they might encounter IC content without the permission of your gov. I don't think its that's much of a stretch to assume that the only the more involved players/gov ever see most of the content here. Another question would then be why we almost never see reactions like upvotes/downvotes, especially on those of NPO posters, from the NPO membership. It isn't general policy. I have 0 involvement in Pacificas internal/external runnings and my post count testifies to that. On the up votes/downvotes. We don't really care for or need the validation of others when we post. In most cases discussion etc takes place in our offsite active community. Furthermore most of the content here is just the same thing regurgitated over 5 threads. It got boring the first time around, arguing the same point over and over isn't suddenly going to become interesting and engaging. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Anarch Caelum Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 When I compare my downvotes I have atm, which KETOG is mostly to blame for compare to getting warn points from GOONS existing, suddenly I'm kind of thankful for the downvotes & KETOG doesn't seem toxic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaspoon Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said: When I compare my downvotes I have atm, which KETOG is mostly to blame for compare to getting warn points from GOONS existing, suddenly I'm kind of thankful for the downvotes & KETOG doesn't seem toxic at all. Blaming other people for your own rules violations sure is a take 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesir Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 1 Art by Faroreswind159 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joi Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Teaspoon said: Blaming other people for your own rules violations sure is a take How dare you: the forum's own 'God of Downvotes' is trying to tell us all what toxic behavior looks like. Clearly this is all GOONS' fault he can't follow the rules - it's so obvious even a kindergartner could see it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper_ Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 50 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It isn't general policy. I have 0 involvement in Pacificas internal/external runnings and my post count testifies to that. On the up votes/downvotes. We don't really care for or need the validation of others when we post. In most cases discussion etc takes place in our offsite active community. Furthermore most of the content here is just the same thing regurgitated over 5 threads. It got boring the first time around, arguing the same point over and over isn't suddenly going to become interesting and engaging. The policy I was referring to was how your gov handles discord servers and such "official" fora. It was more a general commentary on the isolationism your gov practices as opposed to actual OWF rules, which I suspect isn't exactly promoted by them either. I only know about this because of circumstances that have transpired previously that aren't exactly appropriate to discuss here (so I'll leave it at that). As for the content quality, yeah most of the stuff sucks, but the OP was pretty good. If y'all want to move forward and get new stuff on the forums, I suggest starting with good faith negotiations so we can end this wretched war. I'll miss the loot, but at least we get some new things going on these forums. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Anarch Caelum Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Teaspoon said: Blaming other people for your own rules violations sure is a take Actually, currently I have none. Although I don't like people who rat on others for anything they think might get them in trouble, whether bad or not. You guys deserve everything you get in response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sval Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 It's not the lack of Co-B general membership that's most telling here. It's the lack of any government attempt to refute the facts that's most telling. But then it's impossible to spin when the evidence is presented OP. Can't spin, won't comment. 9 <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Anarch Caelum Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sval said: It's not the lack of Co-B general membership that's most telling here. It's the lack of any government attempt to refute the facts that's most telling. But then it's impossible to spin when the evidence is presented OP. Can't spin, won't comment. They're not trying to spin it anymore, many of you are just underestimating the threat. Going from some of the comments we have seen, they beleive the other side would have tried wiping them had they lost; whether true or not. Each alliance NPO attacks to set an example is another fighting at least, since I many still underestimate the threat. NPO kept FAN at war just as a regular thing always going almost when hegemony in CN pre-karma. CnG would dog pile NPO whenever they had completed their previous terms; only to be put under terms again until eventually they became allies. For people used to playing CN, a lot of what I heard from BK on them not wanting to create a hegemony for a fun environment sounded like inviting defeat. Still BK's leader claims they don't want a hegemony; although really what choice do they have other than keep fighting... Edited November 28, 2019 by Noctis Anarch Caelum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Wellington Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Prefonteen might be way better at phrasing this but to continue my previous post: 1. Coal A doesnt like the way the terms are presented. 2. Coal B is really stupid and mean (hodor can perhaps make another song/rap/poem about it?) The answer could be: 3. Coal A dislikes, thinks its unfair but still just accepted the (stupid, awful) way the terms are presented. And they got peace out of it. Or 4. Keep explaining 1 and 2. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Anarch Caelum Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Duke Arthur said: Prefonteen might be way better at phrasing this but to continue my previous post: 1. Coal A doesnt like the way the terms are presented. 2. Coal B is really stupid and mean (hodor can perhaps make another song/rap/poem about it?) The answer could be: 3. Coal A dislikes, thinks its unfair but still just accepted the (stupid, awful) way the terms are presented. And they got peace out of it. Or 4. Keep explaining 1 and 2. Do the terms get progressively worse though, with the worst one last? Sounds like by design they will be destroyed by them. Although I guess GOONS are de facto getting rolled this entire war regardless of who's winning, so shouldn't really matter that much to me. Edited November 28, 2019 by Noctis Anarch Caelum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquentin Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Anything that needed to be said was said by Duke Arthur on the first page. You can either hold out or wait for something but the callout will achieve nothing. We have our reasons for wanting the terms to be presented in this way. Some people don't like the length because they like to see numbers go up but the reasons for the format have been given. We don't need to spell them out again. There is nothing more to say Edited November 28, 2019 by Roquentin grammar 1 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhera Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Roquentin said: Anything that needed to be said was said by Duke Arthur on the first page. You can either hold out or wait for something but the callout will achieve nothing. We have our reasons for wanting the terms to be presented in this way. Some people don't like the length because they like to see numbers go up but the reason for the format has been given. We don't need to spell them out again. There is nothing more to say What would have to happen for you to present the terms fully before negotiating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Anarch Caelum Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) I do feel like most of the world is probably slowly dying off, sometimes not sure if I should be doing anything about or anything I could do even. Although other side has never given very much motivation to jump into the fight or even keep fighting when I was fighting some Col B nations in response to UPN countering me during my fight with GOONS; who ended up not caring. Edited November 28, 2019 by Noctis Anarch Caelum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Menhera said: What would have to happen for you to present the terms fully before negotiating? Nothing. If you read between the lines, he's basically admitting to holding back the talks. The whole spiel of Coalition A keeping the talks from happening was nothing but a lie for them to troll on about. 16 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefonteen Posted November 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Roquentin said: Anything that needed to be said was said by Duke Arthur on the first page. You can either hold out or wait for something but the callout will achieve nothing. We have our reasons for wanting the terms to be presented in this way. Some people don't like the length because they like to see numbers go up but the reasons for the format have been given. We don't need to spell them out again. There is nothing more to say On 11/20/2019 at 9:27 PM, Duke Arthur said: Do you really need this much text to say: 1. Coal B wont present all terms at once, we dont like that, we want them all at once! 2. The enemy is stupid and nasty! We act in good faith, they are bad! On 11/20/2019 at 9:30 PM, Prefonteen said: If only I had your eloquence and charisma But yes, we did need this much text. You should try actually reading it. Duke Arthur's post is a simplification which fails to come close to addressing the content of the OP. I'm surprised you would want to refer to that post as your official line. 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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