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Mystery Inc. had every intention to respect the decision of a fellow leader who was within his treaty rights to invoke the 72-hour clause and not widely publicize the events that happened to reduce unnecessary drama, however, after the heinous lies spread by Epi about the bloc, we feel there is no choice but to respond to these allegations. These disturbing allegations made by Epi are clearly unfounded and the words of an upset individual who, based on the removal of his former leadership team, either did not have their support or that he felt they would not support his decision and forced them to leave. While it is accurate there was some concern regarding his return to power to which some mildly inappropriate jokes were made, it is beyond a reasonable doubt that should have this conversation to which Epi refers to be as sinister. If it was as he portrays it to be, then it would have likely been conducted in a private dm group instead of on a government channel of the bloc’s server which members of Camelot were present. We also call on him to provide evidence backing that there were secret commands in discord bots giving access to government channels. Further, it should be noted that if he was worried about bots having access to the government channels, then he should not have added the bot to the server or given it the permissions. He has accused Mystery Inc. leadership of being the source of a leak and ordering his fellow leaders to fix it. However, after further investigation, the leak came from within his own foreign affairs server and not from the leadership server. In his final voice call with the bloc leadership before his disgraceful withdrawal from Mystery Inc., he accused all of his fellow leaders of being unwilling to defend Camelot while as a member of Mystery Inc. to which all bloc leaders vocally rejected as it goes against the very nature of the function of a bloc. It should also be known that, as of the posting of this announcement, GATO is not a voting member of this bloc, so it should be a relief to Epi to know we are following the treaty. In reference to the bloc representing Camelot in FA affairs, this bloc, like every bloc, has the right to conduct its own diplomacy with other blocs and alliances in its server. Camelot, like every alliance, has the right to have other embassies with other alliances outside of the bloc in its server. No discussion with CATA was had with the intent to “ruin” their relations with Camelot. Furthermore, his complaint to being forced to represent an opinion of the bloc that he does not share shows how he responds when the democratic system of the bloc doesn’t bend the knee to autocratic orders. It should also be known that Epi deleted all messages that he wrote within the MInc leadership server as well thereby obstructing Mystery Inc. in any investigation of this allegation. While there has been hostility between Mystery Inc. and Epi, we reaffirm that the problems we are addressing are towards Epi and not towards the current membership of Camelot at-large and wish them well. Signed, Mystery Inc. -- TLDR: Epi has misrepresented, over-exaggerated, and/or fabricated all allegations of the misconduct by Mystery Inc. and we call on him to deliver with his significant claims some significant evidence to back it up as it is currently just baseless slander from a man who cannot hold the confidence of his high gov or possess any trust in his high gov to serve the alliance loyally as they have shown through holding that honor of being in high gov. Further, Mystery Inc. only regards these complaints as applying to Epi and not towards the alliance at-large to which it continues to maintain goodwill towards.

I don’t know if this is the right place for this, I’m not exactly in the best of mind after learning this. PnW player and friend to many, Gojira has passed away. He kept in contact with some of us as he underwent surgery earlier this year and we all had hoped for the best. Unfortunately, we have learned he has passed on. For those of us who were friends to him it’s devastating, he leaves behind his family and they have a go fund me to help during this time. Please help how you can, and if you knew goji remember them well. https://gofund.me/feff7989

[TLDR] Greene: "Merge into 770." Us: "No, thanks. We're good, let's be friends." Greene: *sends raids, sees them getting smacked down and nuked repeatedly because we don't care about the cost because we're experienced low tier raiders who decom'd cities or entire nations to begin with* Greene: Uuhhh... pls mrg?.... Waffle House: 770, we respectfully decline to retain you as protectorate. Waffle House: Replaces 770 with DEFCON-5 as protectorate Us: *kek* Mr. Greene: When your member informed you she was leaving 770 to join a new alliance being formed, she was very nice about it, and even gave you a parting donation. She didn't have to do either, but that's just her, so she did. You were like ok cool I understand, then the day after we form, you're sending raids at us. And your government members seemed to mostly be in the dark about that (examples below). The only thing you've managed to do is having Waffle House replace you with us as protectorate when they dropped you, and make yourself look... Well.... Anyway.... To the other who Archs: What's up with Greene? lol.... Seems that within the last couple hours, he just kicked me from the server... To the members of 770 et all: Here's why Greene is sending your 7 - 8 city tier at an 8 member alliance, starting with the conversation between him and Powerpuff. More pics in comments because it says maximum of 1000kB. It gets rather entertaining lol.

>Epi destroys Pantheon by slithering into the leader role >Many argue that Epi = Camelot >Epi also destroys Camelot by slithering into the leader role >The two situations are far too similar, so one may argue Pantheon = Camelot >If Pantheon = Camelot and Camelot = Epi... >Then Epi = Pantheon >Pantheon destroyed Camelot #ItWasPantheonAllAlong

Damn Camelot making everyone mad including their members and their allies

Yea, he treated me like a dog in the bloc vc in front of allies for all of them to see just because I disagreed with him in front of them I am glad to have good friends at my back in this game and especially in Mystery inc and I wish for the best of those who still remain in Camelot. Epi though should take a long look at himself and his actions before he burns a community to the ground that he helped build, this is all on him now.

🤣 A single 20 day old Junior Associate brings more talent to the table than you could ever put forward Charles.

The plot has thicken ladies and gentlemen. Epi has done some pretty messed up stuff these past 3 weeks And it seems to only be getting worst for EPI Below are some screenshots that were leaked to me from inside Camelot ill let you be the judge on what you think these screenshots mean Tune in next time to KNN.

tl;dr someone recently played stellaris

valid cb, I'll see you tomorrow

Thanks RIP Cam Epi is bad

Unfortunately, Gojira joined Guardian only shortly before his surgery, but in that time we got to find out how great of a guy he was. Our lives and community were enriched by him, and this news has left us in mourning. RIP my friend.

The one thing that has been around forever, but makes no sense is the Alliance War Page not actually showing if the member had won or lost the war. Instead it just states Victory/Defeat. On the other hand the nation war page displays the actual result. So I suggest changing the alliance war page to include the exact war result of the participating alliance member. Alliance War Page Nation War Page

Cam when MysInc wont help with preemptive counters

Mystery Inc. be like:

Nah, even we have standards.

Arthur made a thread because Epi and him felt guilty over their role in the worst war the game has ever seen. I'm salty at Epi and Arthur because they're human beings with empathy. If only I had been leader, we wouldn't have stepped down to those Kerchtog people! My current allies mean nothing to me, and I enjoyed every single moment of rolling them. The only dark stain on that war isn't how long it was extended, how IQ did peace, NPO's involvement, hitting former allies for making mistakes mid war, ridding the game of thousands of players, making the game unplayable for an entire side for 8 months... no no no, it's that NPO started cheating in month three of completely dominating the game. The coercion to delete the game minimally impacted the game as a whole... I could tell you to delete and you wouldn't. Now, if I were to hold you down for... let's say the 3 months that the war went "legitimately," with members of your own government telling you that we're not allowing you to even get close to a peace talk, with members of their government willfully admitting that they have no plans to ending the war, even in private conversation between friends they're telling you to just dodge out because they're talking in the leadership channel about how to make the war last as long as possible. Strangely... I'd think you'd delete like the thousand + players that left Kerchtog during the war. Ah so if you would have been fine if the war ended in November? After Kerchtog already had 300+ deletions, at least a hundred vms, and many more on purple? After six months of sitting on Kerchtog... Over two months of GPWC being a thing... yeah, I agree completely. The war was completely justified to last six months. Sure, it would've been great to have saved us from the final three months of the war... but ya know what, inflicting either six months or 9 months of an unplayable game onto half of the game without remorse shows that you're a total !@#$. Strange... why would a group of experienced government get high gov? It's such a strange question... why would these people, who have been government for top alliances for years, get to join our high gov. It's completely astounding! By God the horrors they'd inflict onto us. No longer could Cam ever be ruled by us... the true government of Camelot... Oh God, if only. Thank God for Eclipse, now we can 'win the game' without having to worry about getting partnered with people of more experience. Normally I don't respond to such bull shit, but this time, I'm going to respond to this bull shit. Pushing out old gov members to try to reform Camelot's image. Excuse me if I am wrong, but post merge, you spammed the gov channel post merge about how Camelot did nothing wrong. It was only NPO who did the bad, that Camelot was blameless, and that adding GG&FU to the alliance was sure to fail. Oh and let's not forget you literally trying to poach Cam government in the government channel. Maybe I'm absolutely bonkers, but even I would not poach the government of an alliance in the government channel... and then a year later start !@#$ing about how those who left with me were pushed out... You're also mistaking something huge here. The idea of a "reformed" Camelot was mostly Rose posturing. The difference is - Camelot gov felt accountable for their actions, Epi and Arthur agreed they did bad, so they apologized. It's called accountability. I'm sure it's a strange concept, but when you do something bad, you apologize and you strive to make sure it doesn't happen again. Why did Camelot apologize - because Camelot held itself accountable for its actions... maybe your position in gov didn't get you privy to all the good bits of information, but Camelot had already been planning an apology prior to the merger. Rose had been "touching it up" and they were prepared to apologize. Another... very startling thing to notice is that you don't see holding the game hostage for months as a wrong doing. You were happy to inflict lasting damage so long as NPO didn't cheat... that's incredible. Also, you wouldn't know this because you got removed and took your band of salty kids, but damn near all of Camelot government expected to get rolled at the nap. Even Rose was prepared to get hit. If you told any member of Camelot gov post merge that apologizing would save them from getting rolled, they'd laugh at your face and tell you to wait for nap to end. We felt assured that we'd get rolled for a month before they peaced out and we'd continue with our lives. That's what we expected, and we planned around it. If I hadn't already given up on politics I'd sit around and wonder why six people upvoted this garbage. Since I no longer care, I'd like to send you the customary response for any union member... F U

Yes, congratulations, it took you long enough to realize it. It's already a miracle that we've been able to get this far. You have to see it to believe it. Not at all, no one in this game wants a group of alliance dominating literally the highest tier of the game . And i'm not talking about just Blackwater or Rose but literally everyone that isn't Hollywood, in case you didn't realize. Furthermore, It's far from being the least effective tier to consolidate. In GnR, Grumpy dominating the whale tier allowed HW's high tier to recover which then allowed HW's mid tier to recover. Again, snowball effect. Without Grumpy, Hollywood would have surely never been able to win GnR (unless Roasis Inc does an unimaginable massive throw). Another important aspect to take into account is that contrary to what some people seem to think, the new war meta buffed whales asf, updeclares have been nerfed and downdeclares buffed. A c45 is several times stronger than a c35, because you can take advantage of your superior military and switch between ground attacks in some wars and dogfights in others to pin your opponents. Unless we are completely outnumbering 3:1 or more you like in the current war, it's almost impossible to drag and pin your megawhales down if they keep rebuying. In fact, I do think that the combinaison of Rosesphere+Blackwater is literally the only possible way to beat Grumpy, since Mystery and Oasis whale tier is way weaker and their megawhales non-existent. You're purposely underestimating your own strength just to fit your own narrative, vainly. GW18 is the living proof of the huge impact Grumpy can have on a war despite only being whales. So, you can either recognize that Grumpy is way too strong and basically destroys any kind of fairness in 1v1 sphere wars in the whale tier which then snowball on the entire war, or you can stay in denial like TKR. Hypocritical ? Are you kidding me ? Is this coming from someone in an alliance that dogpiled thrice in a row, and where most of the whales almost haven't lost any pixel for 18 months straight now ? Seriously, you are the one being hypocritical here. Do you really think the rest of the game would allow you to dogpile their whales forever and never do anything about it ? If you are really thinking what you just said here, you are really pathetic my dude, just saying. I could even bet that I singlehandely took more damages in gw16 (1 war) when you dogpiled us than some Grumpy megawhales did in gw15, gw16 & gw18 combined (3 wars). You're welcome.

Didn't know you switched sides, friend! Good to see t$'s lord and savior is once again here to argue on our behalf.

So lets address CB's. Why do we give a !@#$ what we use as a reason for war in this current meta? We don't gain anything from war, no reparations, no imposed sanctions or restrictions. Nothing, not a single benefit at all. Literally the only use for CB's at this point in time is to give people on the forums a topic to argue over, seriously it's kinda pathetic. Since you guys struggle so much, here are some simple CB's for you all to use: - Cut down to size (You are growing too fast or are already too big, we want you to bleed) - Humiliate (for you guys with old grudges you want to settle but have no valid reason, just fight you chickens) - Containment (You are doing something that is pissing everyone off, stop it) (this can be warmongering, unjustified actions or overbearing attitudes in past peace conferences) - Ideology conflict (for alliances with RP reasons to have conflict, FA actions or alliance culture) - Retribution (Justification against people who are housing players alliances are holding a grudge against. This could be traitors, spies, unjustified raiding done either directly by the alliance or indirectly through means such as leaving and joining raiders temporarily. Or hunting people who have unpaid debts or stole large sums of items/money) Obviously you should expand upon these few concepts. Try and actually format it correctly, explain the reason why you are going to war, if you have any. Then give a list of steps the others could potentially take to prevent the war (to open negotiations early, even if they are extreme), then give a method of how you plan to reach your goal. If we are trying to beat up Grumpy are you going to just hit them for a week and ditch or do you plan to nuke every one of their cities to rubble? Clearly outlining these methods will give you a diplomatic advantage in negotiations as it demonstrates the planning and effort put into this war before it even started. An alliance will be less likely to continue a war if you can give a detailed plan of what your end goals are, being all mysterious about whether a war will last 2 days or 6 months only makes diplomacy harder, an end goal is far more useful. Feel free to discuss any of the stupid shit I have said, I just want to see this crap actually dealt with and not just left with the shit we have which is basically: "Oh we thought they should be punished" or "Well we gave a reason in paragraph 7 of our monologue" TLDR: For CB's: Give a reason, Expand upon reason, Explain what your end goal is, Why it can't be reached peacefully, how do you plan to achieve your goal.

Pantheon remains undefeated.

nah ima just hit who i want whenever i want. Then i can make memes about it.

Google doc with all the images would be easier next time. That way you can put all your images on one doc and not have to deal with the limit.

I met Goji on PnW sure. But it was IRL where he helped me the most. Offering me advice, help, pointing me in the right direction, giving me his personal LinkedIn and mentoring me and just more then anything patiently being the fabulous man some of us got the pleasure of knowing. Honestly there are no words. When Goji told us about his battles you wouldn't have known from the outside. He was always the optimistic one, the one having a joke and the one who glued our disjointed family together. Gonna miss you, to the stars my friend.

RIP JM.

I am so sorry to heard this, Kinns just broke the news to us in Guardian. In the short time we knew him, he was a kind, and nice person. He will be missed for sure.

This has to be the most meaningless argument to come from your side yet. The fact of the matter is, consolidation of power of any tier is extremely bad for politics and the game. It's a major !@#$-block and only leads to more lopsided wars like we see today. The only alliance in the game guilty of such is GoB so I'm not sure where you're going with this argument. The upper tier is where control starts Hodor and you've been around long enough to know that. Wars are fought top-down. You control the upper tier and it sort of dominos downward since down-declaring is much more effective than up-declaring. As has been said, we don't even need to get into the mechanics or details because war history speaks for itself. Ten-Day wasn't a dogpile? Duck Hunt wasn't a dogpile? GnR was supposed to be a dogpile had things went your way. 3/3 on intent, 2/3 on execution.

RIP Goji, you showed how you were an amazing individual over the short time we shared

Man that's sad to hear. We will certainly miss him in our community over at Guardian

Rest in peace lad. I barely knew you but I did enjoy our interactions as brief as they were.

I dont believe I ever talked to him, but from what i've heard you sound like a wonderful human being. Rest In Peace.

Goji. You were easily one of the kindest people I've had the pleasure of knowing. Always making me smile when things got low and making sure I kept my head up. I was crushed when I heard the news. I still am. It honestly doesn't even feel real... I am honored to have called you my friend and will always cherish the time I had with you. Love you buddy. Now rest easy for me. ♥️

From the onset of this war, our goal has been to deal with a common looming threat and not to exact a vengeful price on those on the periphery. Black Skies have demonstrated that they do not wish to participate in the ongoing conflict and that they are not a threat to our coalition. Towards that end, we have agreed to peace terms, which are as follow: 1.) Black Skies agrees to return and remain in their peacetime standard of military readiness, agreed to as 3/0/5/1. 2.) Black Skies agrees to not launch wars against members of Coalition A (including all members of Blackwater and Rosesphere and associates), and agrees to refrain from providing aid to any member of Hollywood, through any means. 3.) No new wars will be declared between the two sides, but all existing wars are allowed to either run their course or be peaced out. ---- Signed for the Black Skies, Alan, Commander BigBoom, Quartermaster Signed for Carthago, Daveth - Suffet Krampus, Asierith and Gallant - Elder Signed for The Legion, Totem, Imperator Istandor, Proconsul David Ben-Gurion, Consul of Foreign Affairs Kiwilliam, Consul of Internal Affairs Michael Lybrand, Consul of Military Affairs Signed for Church of Atom, His Holiness, Pontifex Atomicus - James II Primus Inter Pares - Keza Purple Cardinal of Foreign Affairs: Kongo Jack Cardinal of Internal Affairs: RandomNoobster Cardinal of Finance: Soxirella Cardinal of Protection: John Baraboo Signed for Eclipse Vein & Pascal, Commanders Signed for Sword of Sanghelios Arbiter - Christian Kaidon - Jaden Oracle Master of Warfare - Flamescove Oracle Master of Diplomacy - Grabacr Oracle Master of the Interior - MorganL Oracle Master of Machines - Scatheon

Your argument is nonsensical because nobody is asking GG to give up their whales or anything of the sort. All we’ve done is point out how dangerous the GG tie is due to the combination of a dominant upper/whale tier and Guardians ‘competence’, so I don’t know why you are bringing that up. What we are doing is hitting you to prevent your whale tier from consolidating even further and to atleast partially dispel the invincible reputation that attracts a lot of whales to GoB. The whole ‘fix your economic policy’ argument is shifty because changing taxes to 0/0 will do very little in attracting whales, (look at TC) because anybody who’s looking for a 0/0 alliance is 9 times out of 10 looking to farm and grow. Joining any 0/0 alliance that isn’t on GoB’s side is counterintuitive for these people because if they do then all that they are doing is signing up to eventually be rolled by GoB because of the fact that their whale tier dwarfs any other, which means they won’t be able to farm and pixelhug very well if they sign up to a rolling every time their alliance faces GoB. This means that going to war is literally one of the few things you can actually do to close the whale disparity since: 1. It slows down growth and shaves down the stupidly expensive infra levels so many GoB whales run because they’re barely touched. 2. It helps to atleast somewhat mitigate with GG’s reputation of being untouchable and the #1 place for unaffiliated whales to go. I don’t think anybody could have proven how little you know of the war and econ mechanics than you yourself did just here lmfaooo.

This argument is so worthless and so stupid for so many reasons that it becomes laughable at this point. I'm no FA man, so i'm not going to write a 5000 words well-written essay showing you how dumb you are, as t$ is doing that well enough already. So i'll just come and destroy your examples with what I know best, maths. You compare Grumpy and e404, and that they have both taken about 50 billions damages in GnR, which is true. But you forgot to mention, mind you, that Grumpy peacetime daily income is 1.8 billions/day whereas e404 daily income is of "only" 500M. Which means that it takes e404 almost 4 times longer to recover from GnR than it does for Grumpy. 1.2 billion per member in GnR ? 900 millions in DH ? Lol, that's peanut for whales, your members make 60-70 millions per day on average, that's not even 3 weeks of income to recover from a global war. Using absolute values to justify yourself is just stupid in every single way possible, if you use relative values or ROI, your damages taken are basically nothing compared to others alliances. I see that you didn't mention gw15 either, since i'm guessing your damages taken there are at an all time low. So right, all Grumpy did since the end of NPOLT was dogpiling not once, not twice, but thrice in a row in the whale tier (gw15, gw16 & gw18), basically destroying any sort of concurrence every war (tCW in gw15, t$ in gw16, Rose in gw18) and snowball from there. The results of this snowball effect are today very clear, since GG holds alone about half the megawhales in the game. But right guys, let's not forget that "t$ man bad" and "Rose man bad" for dogpiling you once now. It's obviously t$ and Rose's fault if they are behind Grumpy to this day after all, right ? I'm amazed how your group of dogpilers/pixelhuggers whales even somehow convinced people like @Dryad that Grumpy is a "warmongerish" alliance. Lol. tl;dr : You are a fatuous pixelhugger, and a dogpiler.

I don't really talk alot on the forums, but i do want to correct you that you are simply "OP" because of the amount of whales/megawhales you guys have. It doesn't necessarily mean you are a good fighter either, you simply know how to click the "dogfight" button and thats all there is to it. This game doesn't require you to do alot when you have easy mode on and i don't blame you for it. As for why bollywood declared on you guys is quite simple honestly. Rosesphere clearly wanted revenge on you guys for dogpiling them in guns & roses. While you might not call it a dogpile because mystery and oasis jumped in, what would of had happened if they didn't? your intention was clear as daylight, to make it a dogpile against rose. I don't think you guys are stupid and I don't believe your side thinks we are stupid either, lets be honest. Hollywood deserves this rolling. As for GG let's be real -> Last time GG lost score (got rolled) was 2 years ago during dial up and that was a very slow death where it took months for GG to properly die. This was about time and deserved, now lets enjoy the wars please and thank you. There is too much salt though i'm quite enjoying it.

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But it is our fault for being boring on the RP side of things. We can't play a game called politics and war and then blame the game mechanics for all our alliances having shitty politics.

I love Waffle House!

Someone should cut them up into a gif image and add it as Camelot's ad in game.

I honestly think that in a way TLE and the raiding alliances helped cause Camelot's decline.

Patrick: "NPO wasn't bad we should have kept fighting. Alex was wrong to ban them. I was just following orders. *Gets kicked* Patrick: "Stop reforming Camelot it was better when we were trying to get people to delete"

Yes, we dogpiled you for the entire... 2 minutes? Before Rose counter-blitzed. We had info that they were joining in. This has already been gone over. I won't bother responding to the rest of it because frankly it's a ramble bordering on coping. Glad to see GoB's finally taking damage that actually matters, and that it's knocked you so out of norms that you're unable to respond nearly as well as you usually do.

Zig damages dealt: 538m Pre damages dealt: 2.2b Let me know when you want some tips, rookie.