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BK didn't like that you and KT shit on their theme/culture and saw you as salty They didn't like your bullheadedness either, tbqh I would have loved to see a BK, TGH, KT, Guardian, Empryea, GoB sphere it would have been a good thematic fusion and culture blend Anywho, they mostly wanted to see TKR and CoS die which I agreed upon, hence the proper fit for protectorate And yeah, the deal to roll you was ancient af. I'm longer bound to BK sphere so you can have this tid bit if it boosts morale and causes more blood to be spilled. I knew that BK wanted to hit Nova Riata to trigger TKR. Even if it meant cucking KETOG out of it's Chaos war. I knew that NPO would join to boost us. I payed part of my debt to Orion Bank with the remnants of Hyperborea's bank and rebuilt my infra to whale levels to repay Sphinx as a friend and for helping Hyperborea with loans. Literally a few days after I promised to pay him back even during war albeit if it pissed off people, because I knew he'd use it for the TCW/IQ front and it'd prolong the conflict. They decided to attack Yarr and Swagrr, without warning me yet I had just given Gorge access to Solar Knight's archived server for BK Opsec and ally evaluation measures. I had also helped with the negative propaganda campaign on the quitters in Yakuza and I had helped Citadel with leaks/conspirators. I had even joked around why they hadn't done the unthinkable and actually gone total war, but if they did to at least give me fair warning. Alas, they hit my nation anyway and decided to sever any ties with me. So yes, there is more drama and plotting with the IQ sphere than you can imagine. Unfortunately somethings are lost to VC as I preferred to scheme via voice to gauge tone and honesty, as well as to hide logs. I intended to be loyal to the sphere to the end. Now it's ashes to ashes.

ThE wAR iS TOo LonG!!!one!!1

This is Shifty bringing in some new news, because it can't be news if it's old. Then it's history. Why would you spy on a secret ally's ally? How can an ally TCW, support Medellin Cartel which has beef with Fark who is NPO's ally? Why Roq dislike MC so much? Will Fark become a battleground? What really was MC's and Fark's bloc that they planned to form really about? More inconclusive action next time, on SNN.

I mean, Shadowthorne said BK was doing fine in the war and that your decision to enter was based solely on information. Might want to have a chat to him that the official spin was that they were struggling and desperately needed help. Even though the war was hardly lopsided, just badly coordinated by BK. I've seen the information they're referencing and it is pretty damning if true and to the point where I don't think they care about NPO's 'goodwill'. The reason why they and I won't expose the info we have is because we've been asked not to and ultimately you're correct. Everyone's minds are made up at this point and neither side is happy with the other's justification.

> Coalition A: Goes through BK's large yet unwieldy sphere like an axe through cheese in the initial blitz. > Also Coalition A: hoW CoULd yOu NOT SEe Bk-SPhEre as An IMMinEnt THReat

stOp BEinG TOxiC!1!!!

I, for one, support guerrilla warfare. The war should never end and only the most fanatical have the right to inherit the game. It is time that grudges and grievances never heal. It's been 5 years to make nice, build multiple blocs, and get new leaders, the fact is there are only two sides. If things had not gone the way they had, I would have used my increased infra to fund both sides. The victor should be the side without doubt that they will prevail. Every war will only get longer from this. NPO has already started importing/aiding CN players and CN alliances. The game will never return to as it was. It is the final struggle. Alex won't change the mechanics during this war, so this is it. The mechanics won't allow a true victor. The next step is to see one side break as their will always be a greater and a lesser. From there, it is for the survivors to kill each other off. Let the eternal struggle for dominance continue. It does not matter what is lost in war.

You can argue TCW was on their side with the leaks and the initial military blunders. They were the fifth column.

Ok, the fact that you state that "a monolithic coalition" would fight a "civil" war... a. either implies that you think Chaos/KETOG are super idiots (honestly, I cannot find a logical explanation for an alliance/bloc/coalition to fight itself) b. or that this is something that you would actually do yourself (fight yourself or your IQ allies), which means that you are the idiots. The first option makes me angry while the second one is quite entertaining. Just help me on that and make it clear whether it's a. or b.

Thanks for that Shifty. I already know that NPO's forum facade is nothing but lies, and that they fully intended to support BK no matter what (Whether it was us roflstomping BK + Friends for their leak or BK steam rolling TKR/Chaos despite our ongoing war against Chaos). I've seen enough snippets of logs that involved BK/NPO/(Kayser led Syndicate) to know what was up, and it was one of the reasons why I was royally pissed off at Wilhelm for following such a dumbass plan (Which later I found out that he didn't know everything that was going on when I ripped into him). For some odd reason, people still want to believe them. Still, everything will be alright after this war concludes, when it concludes.

@Shadowthrone, love. Downvoting is not an answer. Well, it is, but just to another question. Spare some of your precious time to answer the above! Thanks. Edit: Second downvote and no response. I guess you cannot spin that. It smells like victory.

Although I do appreciate the memes, can we please get back to the issue at hand? When will this global war end? It's clearly hurting the people of Politics and War. I had a friend who'd only log on once a week and he went into vacation mode!

Friends, see, it's easy to bring peace to Orbis! Forthwith, peace negotiations can start by offering unconditional surrender every fifth Thursday of the month in period of 15:30 to 16:00 hours to the IQ clerks, unless the aforementioned hard working clerks are away, busy with official business in cafeteria and so forth!

I suggest to have war during peace, war ends for most of the players but selected teams from both sides can continue to fight and the others can bet on the winners

So my suggetion is the we either get a new check box that's "Show Only Vacation Mode Nations". or this: Reason for this is: Thats over half of the game nations that aren't shown and when they are you can't tell which is in vm and which nation isn't.

Oh snap, shifty cast his Ric Romero card

Consolidation? KERTCHOGG couldnt even consolidate their acronym lol

How ironic.

So your leader came to our sphere to ask us to help negotiate terms (after like 3 days of fighting) and when we learned what the terms that were being forced, we told him in no uncertain terms that he needed to fight. We said he could capitulate like he did to Partisan (where he ended up also begging me not to hurt his member in TJEst and ended up paying me not to beige him) and gain a reputation and set a precedent as the alliance that would do anything to save itself, or it could fight, lose some members maybe and rebuild its reputation. So the path you've chosen is NOT the new approach it's literally the same approach you took when an alliance of 20 members attacked you, and if you really wanted to you could've dragged them, but instead you sent them POWs and everyone saw this. Now every time you lose a war, you'll be the !@#$ of the victor.

I mean we aren't in this to "protect" BK lol. There's a lot of nuance with such a term. We're in this because as Roq pointed out, there were suspicions, information flew and our best decision was to enter given what we knew. The nature of the war itself proved something I had pointed earlier, that the BKsphere on paper seemed big, but wasn't a single monolithic coalition like KERTCHOGG, which further forced our hand. A lopsided war, made us running numbers and seeing how this is our best chance and not to wait for the next war, when we'd be sitting ducks. That context is far different from being in it to protect BK. That wasn't our main motivator. I see. Pretty damning but requested to not share it. Got it. I can understand that, but if that's the case, than don't really expect us to play nice or generate good will. These "gotcha" nonsense is hilarious. I see. Welp! Looking forward to big reveal

checks members I'll believe you're TEst when you get Khestra ...or literally any OG TEst members ......or more than one New TEst member, who isn't even in the alliance

I can’t speak for Beerhoe, but I actually like myself some Pacifica. It is displeasing when I see you continue to defend BK when it’s very likely based on logs/context that you conspired with them. However, if that’s not the case and you feel like you have been duped and reacted to this situation/war only due to misplaced trust and a false narrative of this war presented by BK - I wish you luck going forward.

Dude we're still waiting for your proof of TKR planning to hit NPO either before or after this global war. We've been waiting for it for 3 months.

Can you show proof because what t$ has told me sounds completely different than what you are saying. I think it’s funny how we are completely disregarding the fact that NPO didn’t join as soon as they found out Rose joined the war, but waited until BK sphere was losing lol. ?? Also DtC wasn’t our military guy that was Valk. DtC mentioned that he didn’t have time to play for a while so would have to go into VM. And lastly @Prefonteen how’s TJest doing ?

1: We aren’t pushing for peace, we are ready to peace whenever your side is ready. It makes sense if you have to talk to opposing leaders and see their whining. So rather then have pointless arguments that go nowhere they will get a 24 hour period on the first of each month from which to engage in peace talks to avoid wasting time. 2: This whole concept is flawed. This is like having a dog attacking you and being concerned about heart disease in 30 years. Could NPO get 1000 nations and roll BK in two years? Probably. Have they started an aggressive war against us with punitive terms and refuse to surrender when it didn’t work? Nah.

Your dumb post gave me arthritis.

Okay I won't lie, I was getting bored of this game and planned to VM or delete all together... Then interesting stuff happened. ? As some of you know, sh*t hit the fan within Yakuza. As former Econ/IA of Yakuza, we were plagued with inactive members, "temporary" members who had no intention of staying and only wanted to get sweet daddy's milk money, and people deleting themselves left and right. It was a fun ride being in Yakuza and getting lots of nice cities and caring about this game, but those days are gone. I felt compelled to take the future of my nation into my own hands and re-establish my old Alliance. Honestly, I made the alliance and hit VM until October thinking this would be a fun meme before permanently deleting myself. Then I decided: why not keep playing? So I hit up some people, andddd now its a thing sorta. This alliance has 3 main tenets: 1. Absolute loyalty to Afrika Korps in all military affairs. 2. Remain a 1 person alliance because I don't want to lead other people ever again. 3. Do nothing of any significance and only create this post because I was asked to and I also wanted to post a cool picture I made. Disclaimer 1: I will not merge with you!!! Out of my dm's with that ? Disclaimer 2: I have no financial connection to EM or Yakuza. Furthermore, I do not know any numbers or have any understanding of any situations that may/may not exist. I left before EM, and therefore asking me on the subject is pointless. That's all. Now forget I exist ?

Please actually go somewhere and do something. I'm really sick of the failed attempts to revive TEst. It should've stayed dead after PP except for when Pre came back for Knightfall. The other attempts were just massive wastes of time and it tarnishes the legacy. That said, good luck. I don't usually comment on new alliances but I have a soft spot for my former home. I just hope you guys know what you're doing and will have this attempt go somewhere.

Greetings scientists all across Orbis! A few hours ago, I read a really interesting scientific paper titled "On the Volatility of Alliances Membership and Stellar Dynamics" written by the University of Afrika Korps IQ. After reading this paper, I realised that problems like members retention or fluctuations in the number of members of an alliance don't follow a complex multi-variable formula as someone would expect (one similar to thermodynamics or the dynamics of closed stellar clusters downgrading to open ones), but instead follow a linear formula. After this great discovery, I decided to use the same approach provided in the paper, but instead of "members retention", I adopted and adapted those complex mathematics to "alliances retention", as this approach can be used for higher levels of abstaction. The results are shown below, in Table 1. Table 1: Status of IQ and IQ-periphery alliances during Global War 14 as of the 7th of September 2019. From this table, it becomes evident that, since the war has lasted for 3 months and IQ/IQ-periphery has lost half of the participating alliances from their side, in another 3 months the whole of IQ/IQ periphery will have surrendered. So, for Chaos Bloc and KETOG, the good news is that IQ/IQ-periphery will surrender in 3 months. The bad news is that, according to the University of Afrika Korps, CoS and Soup will disband by then and will merge in TKR. Still worth it!

Touche. Given how Adrienne was busy trying to have them be paperless, this is true. I think we'e had the whole crew back together now? Thrax, Partisan, even Lordship woke up, Buorhann, Abbas. It really feels like 2017 all over again ❤️ All we need to do is find Felkey and return him from the beach, I hope he's carried enough sun screen though.

When the going gets tough, Test goes away, nice to see the legacy continue with their entire membership made out of people that just war deserted.

No man, we're ready to send in the allied occupation authorities and write them a new constitution.

I suggest the book War and Peace.

We approve! Suck a dick, Kastor.

You hid over a billion in VM, you know damn well that's against the rules no matter whose cash it is or where it came from.

Will you merge with us?

FOR THE GLORY OF CHAOS

Awww, my nation's namesake is back

I hereby request that IQ will from now on be known as the Schrödinger's sphere.

And who's fault is it really you couldn't retain your own members? It's like if another employer offered me better pay and a higher position doing the same work than my current job, it would be dumb of me not to take that opportunity. Poaching lol, so dumb.

lol poaching. People go where they want to go. You have no control over them unless you consider your members slaves. Regardless of investing tons in them or not, they broke their trust with you. Don't blame the people they joined.

First off, as the head of FA for Farkistan, Id like to point out that any post from anyone by or about Fark that is not me or that has not been expressly approved by me is invalid. This means any time I havent pre approved of Buorhann talking shit about Fark, it is invalid and Alex deletes it, because both Buorhann and Alex are my puppets. Those that remain on the forum are those that I have approved. Secondly, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Yes, you. You know what you did. Thirdly, none of this happened on Esper. Except for GOONS. That happened on Esper. Fourthly and finally, San Fortunado has a very small penis.

Declaring wars is so 2018, cool guys now hit their protectorates