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DID SOMEONE SAY OOC ATTACKS?!?

Dont remember this?

And yet none of this was addressed by TKR.

I'm not saying these Shifty logs are legit, but the fact that it has gotten several TKR sphere bigshots to post here (wihtout actually presenting any conclusive evidence as to why they're fake and attacking Shifty instead) makes me wonder.

That about summarizes the reactions to this thread. ANYONE ELSE? Edit: Meanwhile at TGH HQ

I'm late to the party but y'all can shut the frick up right this instance with all this tomfrickery and foolishness. Pineapple belongs on pizza.

And spoken with such confidence too. Even in leaks IQ can't catch a break smh

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Why? Are you feeling left out? If I was to reference Pantheon again, I’d just cite how you failed to dismantle them. Remember when you begged me to take over instead? Guess it wasn’t quite up to TCW’s standards (You’re welcome for that too, btw) despite pulling all of your Panth buds over. Weird how TCW is Pantheon 2.0 and you didn’t want to take lead over the original. Is that good enough for you?

At this point it seems more time efficient to just book in a regular appointment time for our spheres to beat the hell out of each other, so no one needs to waste time plotting (Or getting log dumped). Don't forget to book in to your nearest Bank for a healthy dose of rebuilding loans. So upside down, and with half the toppings missing when I ordered some Pizza a few nights ago?

Your opsec flows This is Shifty, reporting in from the Shifty News Network. After some busy work days and break after relaunching SNN as SNN LLC, (the acronyms will only get longer, like a 2nd bowl of Alphabits cereal.) Shifty delivers like Domino's Pizza, a soon to be mother, and like Amazon Prime.

To be fair, what evidence could they possibly present that would prove anything to everyone's satisfaction and not blow whatever opsec they've got left? Denial is pretty much their best bet right now. What else are they gonna do, post their actual war plans? Give everyone the full logs of their coalition chat? Maybe invite IQ and syndisphere ambassadors to their sekrit war discord? ... Actually. Why not? C'mon TKR, just do it! break the mold, change the meta! Prove you're different than the common pixelhugger alliance and play your cards face up; it's more fun than you think! After all...

In other news TKR is going back to OOC attacks on opponents.

Really, Shifty? Is it such a slow news day you're posting fake logs? While we're playing corrupt detective however, thought I'd share a fun revelation of my own...

Lol can confirm

Pineapple belongs in your mouth as does pizza, might as well be efficient >_>

But I like Pineapple.... ?

Oh?

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Maybe this is a silly point, but if I were someone trying to start a war, I wouldn’t fabricate logs that were so relatively ambiguous and clearly out of context (though the context could very well be more damning in this case). Like if I want to spark a war I’m gonna fabricate as clear cut logs as can be believed, these are not those.

tryin to keep pizza on da pizza topic like rawr

"Logs are only fake when they work against you." - TKR

TKR complaining about logs in context. Thats rich.

'How DARE people disagree with me! Everyone should have the same opinion as mine.'

That's why you guys are my favorite protectorate

I know who can help in the event of an OOC attack - Alex to the rescue! o7

What was said before that? Context would be nice.

Bro. Really? You can't be this obtuse. Typically people that discuss OPSEC things happen in private not on public servers etc AKA DMs or private servers/channels lol.

Good luck guys, I'll be happy to counter for you! @CianuroI don't like your new sig, the old one was better

Pineapple doesn’t “belong” on pizza, but it can go on there.

Pineapple and ham or pineapple and bbq chicken on pizza is great.

This will kill updeclaring. Being able to cycle your three updecs into beige and put another three nations in is just about key to being able to exhaust an enemy that has a lot more rebuying power. Without being able to do that it's going to drastically curtail the ability of nations with fewer cities to be able to coordinate to take out nations with significantly more. There seems to be this tunnel focus on punishing the rest of the game for things Arrgh uses. I see the problem but it's using a sledgehammer to crack an egg.

I remember when I attempted to discuss the incriminating logs TKR had on TGH/KT, and they intentionally remained vague and dismissive to it until after they launched their war. They also didn’t rebuke any of Sketchy’s points either after they posted those logs.

you can tell it's fake because at the earliest opportunity possible they tried to derail the thread with talk about what goes on pizza.

As a party concerned about who might be this "threat" portrayed in the screenshot which you tag as false, i'd very much like to hear more on the particular traits/attributes which according to you verify it as a fake. I'm not very well versed in forgery identification and so I tend to take logs at face value until I see proof otherwise.

This logic is utterly nonsensical and pathetic. "You made a joke, therefore what my leader said is true, also what some ridiculous SJW nutcase said is also true." It wasn't even some sweepingly offensive joke. Hell, you're still the good twin. Really? No need to respond to comments about it? Is... that why your government and leader have posted numerous respones to the posting and also commenters on said logs, but just not the ones Buor mentioned? This is not how logic functions, and you should know better. That doesn't mean call yourself (as a part of gov) guilty, it means stop saying something which everyone can clearly see is not reality. Why, yes, infact, there must be some need to respond to them - because they did. Unless you didn't the thread at all, but even then, the shifty comment you lost all sense of rationality over was infact responding to your leader. The only excuse here is gross incompetence, or i suppose a problem with shifty in particular. At least i could understand the 2nd one. I haven't even said whether i think you're guilty or not yet. I don't actually care. Don't let shifty make yah slip up too much though.

Get it right, @Prefonteen

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Yeah it's hard to know for sure either way sometimes. But regardless I'm glad we did have an actual reasonable discussion on the owf ?

I get what you're saying, and this is no shade: to me (and this is a personal opinion, might not be the proper way but that's what I'd do) TKR and TCW gov members feeling the need to reply to these logs in public makes you look guilty. I'm not claiming you are, nor do I have enough data to make an informed opinion. But what I'd do is ignore it and, when approached privately by the concerned parties, give a short answer where you basically state it's BS and go on about your business. Going to the concerned parties yourselves would also make you look guilty imo. At the end of the day the only thing it will change is people's perceptions. Those who are biased towards you will believe you, those who are biased against you will believe the logs. But for the average neutral, I reckon they'd be more inclined to think the logs were BS if there was no public reaction. I for one don't know. I've learned not to take logs at face value, but I won't claim they're false bceause I don't have enough info. To me this is just another one of Shifty's threads, which is by far the most interesting content on these forums, seen as everyhting else seems to be micro related garbage.

When someone posts something like this in public for everyone to see you have to give some sort of public response for everyone to see. Otherwise the general public will only see one side of the story. I do agree though that actual reasonable discussion won't take place in public like this.

@Pestilence Damn, log dumped again!

I mean Adrienne is literally the only one who can answer this besides our leaker. If these logs are stale she should have no problem doing so.

This is interesting. The timestamp says today. When are these logs with this anonymous individual from?

Make it a bit more clear next time:P

I look forward to SSN LGBTQQIAP2 coming out next.