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I will say good on y'all for creating the most controversial and debated forum post in a while. Didn't know if I would ever see anything past like 4 or 5 pages in a while and here we are... page 8. Lmfao.

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12 minutes ago, Kevanovia said:

Meanwhile in this situation- easily the two largest spheres (to the point where it would no longer be a contest to do a 1v1 against them with any other sphere) decide to sign a MDP to prevent a war torn (not to mention, a far smaller) bloc from hitting them.

War torn? Are you kidding me? Low infra high tier nations down declaring against unarmed nations with full infra and peace time builds. For stat padding. That's how it would work. 

We all know and have seen how effective smaller force has been at such strikes. KT has shown that in this game time after time again. 

 

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3 minutes ago, alyster said:

War torn? Are you kidding me? Low infra high tier nations down declaring against unarmed nations with full infra and peace time builds. For stat padding. That's how it would work. 

We all know and have seen how effective smaller force has been at such strikes. KT has shown that in this game time after time again. 

 

The problem with your 'stat padding' rhetoric, is that Clock is one of the most vocal critics of stats meaning much. They argue against looking at stats defining wars. So your argument falls on deaf ears when you claim the reason for any of their moves is 'stat padding'. 

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2 minutes ago, Kevanovia said:

The problem with your 'stat padding' rhetoric, is that Clock is one of the most vocal critics of stats meaning much. They argue against looking at stats defining wars. So your argument falls on deaf ears when you claim the reason for any of their moves is 'stat padding'. 

Those stats translate directly into cash in bank and that's something you guys can count well. (This was a compliment)

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16 minutes ago, Etat said:

I'm not involved in any back channel secret FA chit chat my friend, but I don't think I'm completely deaf either.  I'm gonna take a stab in the dark though and suggest you lot misinterpreted comments made somewhere in jest, or are just plain making stuff up. 

Also there is an apparent lack of trust consequent to your last chaining war which now I guess means you just have to lie in the bed you've made for yourselves.  I'm not however reading any sort of profound rejection of the practice from the player-base in general.  Personally I think it's in the same realm as dog-piling, a valid, if somewhat inglorious strategy that shouldn't be misused.

Additionally, I think it quite an imaginative leap to say we 'signed' Ro$e, when in fact it is a clearly time limited clause within a demilitarization agreement and otherwise very different from any sort of treaty.  Continually calling it a treaty or anything like it doesn't make it so.

As an aside, I'm always here for cuddles if you need one ;)

We’re responding to what was said, by HW gov itself. I’ll take a stab in the dark and assume you didn’t listen to Thalmors show, and I’d recommend or encourage you and others listen to it? Hard to make things up on our end, when it’s the other side saying things.

I still think there’s some misinterpretation, lol. We’re not sitting here with a “Ah shucks, we’re the chainers now!”. There’s nothing but glee, and excitement on Clock’s side.

A treaty is an agreement between two parties. All treaties ingame are “time limited”, and inb4 someone says “they don’t activate unless someone hits them”, yes, congratulations for understanding how all treaties work. Call it a deal, an accepted offer, an arrangement, and then look up synonyms for the word Treaty.

I also wonder why either party to this treaty actually even cares if the other is hit, really weird to think about that

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7 minutes ago, His Holy Decagon said:

I also wonder why either party to this treaty actually even cares if the other is hit, really weird to think about that

Pretty simple mate it's called a division of risk. Rather than risk a coin flip over who would be hit, they can effectively split the cost between themselves and deter any potential attacker.

Lets say this treaty came out without Article 3, I would not be surprised to see one of the two spheres get hit, it is a big target that a well co-ordinated blitz could take down and earn some decent reputation off of.
 

1 hour ago, KittenGosCrazy said:

Here is a pitstop for anyone reading through the thread

I'll take a syndisprite, immortal gum and [Redacted] please!

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18 minutes ago, His Holy Decagon said:

A treaty is an agreement between two parties. All treaties ingame are “time limited”, and inb4 someone says “they don’t activate unless someone hits them”, yes, congratulations for understanding how all treaties work.

Ummmmmmm MDAPs exist tho >.>

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11 hours ago, Gaius Julius Caesar said:

*snip*

You keep dodging what you promised to address earlier and what Kev asked you here...

11 hours ago, Kevanovia said:

This does set a bad precedent. Your argument is "well..it's not bad if there is nothing to worry about" - then why not do it every war? Then it effectively becomes acceptable for blocs to have MDP's with one another going forward in every single war when they aren't the first ones attacked. 

It is hilarious how HW and Ro$e keep defining traditional MDPs while arguing that this one in-fact is not a traditional MDP and keep trying to present it like it's some light hearted promise made over drinks that people do not need to think much about.

"Treaty only gets activated when either participant is under attack"
My friend that's literally how MDPs work, cutting down the duration does not affect how it's going to be used within that duration, if you are using it like an MDP, it is, by all means and definitions, a bloc wide MDP and somehow worse than Myoasis  inc because they were not the 2 biggest spheres in game and did not overpower the rest of the game on their own.

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1 hour ago, TheRealMonty said:

Im sorry but... who asked?

Literally everyone not part of your ridiculous game-breaking and frankly cowardly megasphere (and part of the people in said megasphere). Be. Seated.

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14 hours ago, Krampus said:

"Not Quite"

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Hard to logic with that argument. They've won me over. I'll see if I can talk Clock into joining HollyRo$e too

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14 hours ago, Zukran said:

Its pretty obvious Celestial and Hollywood don't have an interest in warring at the current time. However neither side can deescalate without making themselves open to attack from clock, which clock has a history of rolling one bloc then taking advantage of their already built military to attack another.(This literally just happened)

This agreement disincentives Clock rolling Celestial or Hollywood after the de-escalation. If Clock truly had no interest in attacking either of them, then I don't see what all the fuss is about. Unless another micro bloc wanted to attack Celestial or Hollywood, which I highly doubt. Then after the Clock - Backroom fiasco everything will be back to normal. This isn't a long term pact and Celestial and Hollywood will go right back to being rivals like they have been for years. To think this some how made a jumbo bloc is ridiculous. Both sides just want to deescalate from the situation but cover there butts from clock.

So... whats the issue? Why are we really upset?

It sets a terrible precedent. And already breaks another. People rolled Oasis and MInc for doing this exact thing. The amount of backlash Tyrion got was insane. Now some of those very same people have done the same thing Oasis Inc did (ironically both T$ and TI are part of the MDP)

 

As mentioned on Thalmor's show yesterday, how do we know you won't do it again? If in a few months time Clock declares on Johnsons or Haunted Mansion, what's stopping Ro$e and HW from making another MDP? Is this the new normal where HollyRo$e will never go to war because they'll treaty up at the first sign of conflict? Also how will you guys react if the other spheres made treaties too? Is this some special privilege for only HollyRo$e since the last guys who did this got rolled and then their spheres collapsed and their key leader (tyrion) stepped down?

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6 hours ago, Who Me said:

Perhaps none of us want to waste out time, effort, money and resources with your sorry asses right now? Did you ever think of that?

I know thinking is not you peoples strong suit but you really should try it sometime.

Do you ever waste time on anything besides baseball though? (allegedly you don't even do that and use a bot to play for you). Seems to me all you do is waste time Who Me since this entire game you basically have not done anything at all besides lob a few nukes from time to time. Maybe take your own advice.

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Just now, Mayor said:

Do you ever waste time on anything besides baseball though? (allegedly you don't even do that and use a bot to play for you). Seems to me all you do is waste time Who Me since this entire game you basically have not done anything at all besides lob a few nukes from time to time. Maybe take your own advice.

No way anyone uses bots thats impossible not like 1/3 2/3 of the active players do it.

Why are you reading this.

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