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Popular Post vasya_nyasha Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 Pretty ironic that MysOasis was rolled by Sindy for trying to defend from Clock and now Sindy signs with HW for same reason. Are you really afraid of Clock? Rose doesnt want to get rolled twice, so they asked daddy to protect them? 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Annayah Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 This greatly benefits me but like even I was pretty surprised at the temporary bloc to bloc mdp. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arln Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Agent W said: I wonder what happened immediately after that war that may have caused this. Reflect on your actions before you ask me to. I would've accepted this if it was Clock with HoF who may have had somewhat of a chance from drawing a white peace at most from Celestial. Even with blitz advantage the tide would likely turn against them eventually. Not an insult to Clock, but numbers eventually win. 8 hours ago, Grave said: The only way that statement holds, even theoretically is if there is already concrete, set up plans for clock and BR to team up on either HW or celestial while they are demilitarized . Is that what your saying right now? Yes, two spheres at war with each other are also planning a war together. They caught us. Foiled. We were shaving each others infra to chain together. It was all an act! 7 hours ago, WarriorSoul said: how dare you take steps to protect against a thing that we very notoriously did six months ago Its really the fact that even if they did do it the tide would probably eventually turn against them. You both have the size advantage alone. And now you joined together to stop anything from possibly touching you. Shoot at least MysOasis was touchable and made in action to a foe that actually has superiority over us. Not that I supported it then either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Me Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Arln said: ts really the fact that even if they did do it the tide would probably eventually turn against them. You both have the size advantage alone. And now you joined together to stop anything from possibly touching you. Shoot at least MysOasis was touchable and made in action to a foe that actually has superiority over us. Not that I supported it then either. Perhaps none of us want to waste out time, effort, money and resources with your sorry asses right now? Did you ever think of that? I know thinking is not you peoples strong suit but you really should try it sometime. 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzers Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Its a temporary treaty designed to counter the chance of a pointless war that both blocs deemed unnecessary. An unusual agreement, unique in terms of the history of global politics. If anything though, this is more in line with the desire to have actual, meaningful wars. Why should we scrap just because we are militarised? This protects the current global from being disrupted by one of the bigger blocs looking to get an easy advantage. Admittedly it does also prevent some potential underhanded plays from either backroom or clock, which would be fair game for all of this outrage if it was a trend. As it stands, this looks relatively one off. The unpopularity of this is understandable but its not exactly setting off the doomsday clock is it? 1 Quote Roll Squeegee pact with Redarmy and Ameyuri Blues Brothers pact with Redarmy Leader of the Elyion Resistance. If it's backed by NPO, you know it's evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cassia Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, alyster said: You mean every time you've gone to a global war? Also judging by the flood of comments here, quite obviously the plan this time around as well. You guys need a new trick. Last one was fun, this time it's getting old. There's no reason to believe that Clock or anyone else intended to hit HW or Celestial... Do people really think the only reason anyone would be pissed off is that they must have planned to attack you? Some of us just enjoy the war part of Politics and War. It's not called Friendship and Farming, if I wanted that I'd go play Stardew Valley. When the two largest blocs in the game can simply sign a treaty so they can sit and hug pixels uncontested it sets a bad precedent. I don't believe there should be any alliance or sphere that's too big to fail, we need a semi balanced distribution of power in the game to keep things fun and healthy. HW and Celestial already had a substantial tiering advantage especially since Clock lost HoF; every other sphere in the game combined couldn't win against HW+Celestial even if Jesus himself came down to earth to lead their milcom. The community needs to be able to self-regulate and limit the ability of any one bloc to consolidate power/money/tiering in order to maintain a healthy and dynamic political landscape and not stagnate completely. Edited May 25, 2022 by Cassia 1 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blink Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Weak move big politics Edited May 25, 2022 by Blink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Holy Decagon Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Still not sure how *more* high infra targets, deters low infra chaining. This treaty doesn’t force anyone to not chain, or to play by HW or ro$e’s rules. This is like fully slotting a low infra pirate and thinking you “win” because of a victory screen at the end. Sort of makes sense given that I’m under the impression that TKR practices that exact same thing. I truly think if chaining is a concern, that adding more people with high infra to lose is the exact opposite of a deterrent lol. I don’t know which genius thought this up, but next time, please think about the math beforehand 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Leo. said: You'd simply like another 6 months of sitting at low mili? Clock actually tried to make the game interesting and fun while you're signing rose for "self defence" and hw now for the same reason (as if the literal formation of celestial and hw wasn't enough already) and kill off the one good part of the game (supposed majors lol) Celestial vs hw would be the one sort of equal war we'd have in years and the whole point of the game is to have equal and fun wars and if you're "scared " of losing your rss numbers and seeing your wars lost number go up in a web browser game I think you really need to take a break Literally no one is faulting Clock for making something interesting happen. Celestial vs HW isn't something the leaders are up for, it's been done... over... and... over... I'm sure there will come another time when we duke it out again, but what's the point of doing it now? While I am skeptical over the Article 3 section of the treaty, I'm actually starting to agree with it now considering people's reactions to it. It's almost like you folks were trying to bait the war or had other plans involving both of these Blocs. Personally if I was leading either of these Blocs and I had concerns over Clock attacking one of us after demil'ing - I'd just attack Clock for the hell of it and make a statement. Wouldn't waste time over Article 3, I'd just go ahead and use the military that we sat on. Protip: Trust me when I say that none of the major alliances in either Bloc is afraid of their pixels burning. Most of the veteran alliances have done it repeatedly throughout the history of this game. 1 1 11 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartarus Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Thalmor said: Just in this thread, you have Insert Name Here and Indger. Hodor and Buorhann also seem to have some skepticism over it. I'll admit that these 4 are all Hollywood people, and that I don't have anyone from Celestial to point you to, but I stand by my original statement that the irritation is across the community. Indeger and INH I will concede, however those are merely two names in a wide range of alliance opinions. They're entitled to their thoughts, even though I think such opinions are ill-thoughtout. I'm going to refer you to Bourhann's post directly above me right here. (Link, if anyone conveniently wants to skip over that part.) I disagree with the thought of 'pixel hugging'. I think we've more than proven we can take a beating to our precious infra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indger Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tartarus said: Indeger and INH I will concede, however those are merely two names in a wide range of alliance opinions. They're entitled to their thoughts, even though I think such opinions are ill-thoughtout. I'm going to refer you to Bourhann's post directly above me right here. (Link, if anyone conveniently wants to skip over that part.) I disagree with the thought of 'pixel hugging'. I think we've more than proven we can take a beating to our precious infra. I completely agree with and Bourhann and what he says, it did spoil someone's plan, but i am still not a fan of this move. He also says he would go directly for war instead of doing this btw, and this was unexpected seeing the pixel burning nature of some aa's here, that's why the pixelhugging thing came up Buorhann Indger He's skeptical regards to point 3 I am too Agrees that by Considering the reactions, he says some plans were spoilt I agree Voices a personal opinion I agree with it For those who think i am self contradicting 👆 Edited May 25, 2022 by Indger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etat Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I can confirm that before this temporary agreement we members of HW were not exactly quivering in our boots at the thought of being attacked by either (or both) Clock and BR. If you think we in HW are pixel huggers you are a noob or an idiot. Having yet to receive an invitation to the decision making channels of our sphere, I can only surmise that we (and presumably Celestial) would rather pursue our own goals on our own terms without being drawn into Clock and BR’s little drama. It is funny to me how such a time limited and trivial clause (trivial if everyone is being honest that is) has caused such a fuss. We all know there is little love lost between our spheres, but it seems we are of similar minds when people try to call the shots for us. People sure seem to moan about how bad or boring politics is when it doesn’t go their way. 1 1 2 Quote Celer Et Audax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arln Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 hours ago, alyster said: You mean every time you've gone to a global war? 1.......... Damn either I am bad at counting or it only happened once 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartarus Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Indger said: I completely agree with and Bourhann and what he says, it did spoil someone's plan, but i am still not a fan of this move. He also says he would go directly for war instead of doing this btw, and this was unexpected seeing the pixel burning nature of some aa's here, that's why the pixelhugging thing came up You can't completely agree with what he said, and yet be in opposition of this temporary measure. That's just paradoxical. I know he said he would go to war if it was his choice. I was instead referring to you quoting a post prior in this thread, not sure what the latter tangent you're talking about refers to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keegoz Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Apparently chaining 1 war now means "Clock must be planning to chain every war". There are some parties in the game that are more interested in stagnation and maintaining their own power at any cost. The precedent this sets is terrible. I'll likely expand my thoughts when I actually have a chance. <OOC rl is kinda taking me away rn > Edited May 25, 2022 by Keegoz 13 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Arln said: 1.......... Damn either I am bad at counting or it only happened once Both statemets were true: 1 time and every time. But hey, keep ctrying. https://politicsandwar.fandom.com/wiki/Clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevanovia Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 hours ago, alyster said: I am surprised by the ammount of butthurt here. For starters lets get to a point that this is not a secret treaty. Majority of the people crying over this here are from alliances who have had similar agreements left and right. No one just has posted them publicly. Secondly. Why does Clock think they get to keep doing double wars. Roll the Back Door, don’t rebuy infra and roll either Rose or HW while it’s cheap. Seems kinda boring. So every time Clock does a war and they don’t declare on you, then that gives you a pass to do a “temporary bloc-to-bloc MDP”? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kevanovia said: So every time Clock does a war and they don’t declare on you, then that gives you a pass to do a “temporary bloc-to-bloc MDP”? After the ammount of similar secret treaties you signed in CoL, it's hilarious you poke fun at this one being public. Edited May 25, 2022 by alyster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, alyster said: After the ammount of similar secret treaties you signed in CoL, it's hilarious you poke fun at this one being public. Yes, a treaty to defend each other and demil has happened so many times. I guess just talking utter nonsense is where your side is at. 4 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post His Holy Decagon Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Etat said: I can confirm that before this temporary agreement we members of HW were not exactly quivering in our boots at the thought of being attacked by either (or both) Clock and BR. If you think we in HW are pixel huggers you are a noob or an idiot. Having yet to receive an invitation to the decision making channels of our sphere, I can only surmise that we (and presumably Celestial) would rather pursue our own goals on our own terms without being drawn into Clock and BR’s little drama. It is funny to me how such a time limited and trivial clause (trivial if everyone is being honest that is) has caused such a fuss. We all know there is little love lost between our spheres, but it seems we are of similar minds when people try to call the shots for us. People sure seem to moan about how bad or boring politics is when it doesn’t go their way. Apparently quivering enough to sign with the only obvious opponent. It’s not about “us” getting our way; it’s about HW being quite vocal about wanting or enticing Clock to hit them, and when people start militarizing, there’s a cuddle group formed in the fake veil of safety, and it’s perpetuated as an anti-chaining resolve. Pointing out what people perceive, is not moaning and groaning, by the way. If that’s the case, then you guys are all doing the same via treaty. Saying “Well if you aren’t going to hit HW or ro$e, it doesn’t matter”, is a fallacy statement and everyone knows it. I can flip it by saying “You’re not worried about Clock’s quote-unquote little drama, so why sign with ro$e?”. It’s a double standard, and a fake attempt to appear right or to be justified. Edited May 25, 2022 by His Holy Decagon Fixing stuff 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Knox Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Charles Bolivar said: So basically you don't like the idea that we didn't perform an action which if we had performed would have suited and benefitted your own self-interest. Man, who knew my comment would bend so many of you so out of shape lmfao. Over here assuming I have an agenda or an ulterior motive. Laughable, really. I genuinely just thought it would be an entertaining war to watch. End of story. The fact that y'all are so paranoid otherwise is what makes this even better. 2 Quote Federation of Knox Enlightened of Chaos, Event Horizon QA Team and API Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Keegoz said: Yes, a treaty to defend each other and demil has happened so many times. I guess just talking utter nonsense is where your side is at. Rather like "No matter who Quack declares war at, everyone will counter" Which is very strict MDP bloc wide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Knox Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 hours ago, alyster said: Why does Clock think they get to keep doing double wars. Roll the Back Door, don’t rebuy infra and roll either Rose or HW while it’s cheap. The funny part is... we literally weren't going to! 😆 2 Quote Federation of Knox Enlightened of Chaos, Event Horizon QA Team and API Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, Jacob Knox said: The funny part is... we literally weren't going to! 😆 But you see we could have had and that makes them very very scared so this was there next logical step. As obviously war is boring and just sitting and farming is fun. 2 Quote Why are you reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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