Popular Post Keegoz Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Cataclysm declares war against Swamp for multiple transgressions. This post is going to be long so I’ll just quickly premise what it’s about. It details what moves were being made that led us to this conflict from our side, how we view Swamp (Mystery Inc and Oasis), as well as why we decided to work with BW in this war. Let’s start with how we got here. About 6 days ago, Cataclysm made the decision to militarise and its allies moved to a peacetime MMR soon after. Hand of Fate then moved to max MMR 2 days later. Cata and HoF planned to hit Mystery Inc that Friday at update. A war where we would have been completely outnumbered and out-tiered in. It would have been a quick war (2 rounds) to round out the year, and a bit of fun for everyone involved. We however never imagined that a new Swamp would form from just our two alliances militarising. As I said before, MInc’s move to form Swamp is not at all justified and if they have the intel they claim then they are simply incapable of handling a threat on their own without cowering behind large treaties. This adding to the fact that Minc has had the most peace time out of all spheres in this game makes it even more pathetic. Minc is not the smallest sphere nor is it the weakest but their mindset is terrible for this game and for themselves. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if you cannot envisage any war you will fight without making another sphere basically unstoppable and needing multiple enemy spheres to counter, then pack it in. Minc should have seriously thought about their future when Camelot left and the answer should have been pretty obvious when they continued to leak allies in Aurora, Weebunism and Waffle House. Your only goal seems to be survival now and although admirable, it only serves to you making these horrendous decisions which impact the game. You can’t just simply run to another sphere to avoid being hit and after realising it made you more likely to be attacked you end it. It was even more amusing that Minc members decided to openly taunt Clock thinking we couldn’t touch them (surprise btw, we can). I really hope this is the wake up call that you need and you choose a new direction for Minc. Now for Oasis. Well Clock actually had no plans for you. We get that you desperately would have liked to work with us but in good conscience, we saw no real situation where teaming up with you wasn’t a dogpile. With that said, you’ve proven over the last week to be hypocritical, liars and opportunists. Let’s start with hypocritical, despite decrying dogpiles and massive spheres, here we are. You basically confirmed to us that you intend to work with Mystery for an offensive hit in the future. Quite frankly, I am tired of Oasis using the same excuses as to why they can dogpile. Apparently not controlling the whale tier entirely gives justification to roll every other tier. This is really where politics is needed, to fix what you believe you lack in order to stand on your own two feet. I’ve made 2 spheres in the time Oasis has existed that I am confident could 1v1 other spheres without the need to simply dogpile. I won’t pretend we have a perfect past record on it but I think we should endeavour to continue to improve. Aka, stop signing low tier if you don’t want to be seen as having massive numbers and start trying to entice alliances that bolster your tiering. Stop signing anything with a goddamn pulse. Stop having an open door to your alliance and swelling your ranks with a membership that simply cannot follow directions. Oasis could be a good sphere but there are mentality issues at the top that seem to be comfortable just looking for easy war opportunities. I’d also like to point out that I am not really aware of what gave Oasis the idea we’d be open to working with them, given I don’t believe I’ve had many conversations with them. I was merely informed by an ally that they wanted to work with us and we decided there was no scenario in which that would work. Now let’s move onto the liar part. Despite avowing not to have secret treaties after GnR, here we are. I appreciate you made it public but you only did so when war was literally on the horizon. You evidently intended to have any ties remain secret for as long as possible. Making them public however doesn’t change much, it really doesn’t. You have not formed what most would call a coalition aimed at hitting someone, you have indeed formed a MDP treaty that will remain until you’re done using Minc. Your assertion not to have secret treaties after GnR was a lie. You also lied when you signed onto the NAP agreement. For those of you who are unaware, Tyrion offered 2 blocs NAPs to avoid being hit. This was literally 2 days after signing a document that we saw as a mechanism to reduce NAPs. It was offered to BW and Clock. I quote the agreement: “1. Superfluous non-aggression pacts, otherwise known as blanket NAPs, that cover a majority of the active alliances, risk stagnating the game and we will strive to avoid signing them going forward.” Why are we working with BW? Well I’d much preferred to have a war that was less a massive cluster but we couldn’t 1v1 Swamp - at their size, no one can. At best, we would have stalemated them and I think in some ways, they would have thought that justified their political bs. They need a lesson to be taught here. TL;DR: Cataclysm will not stand for rewinding the progress made over the last year, and it is evident that Swamp needs to be taught a lesson. Edited December 11, 2021 by Keegoz 13 1 1 58 3 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadn Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Lets goooo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avakael Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 "Alexa, roll a d3". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiWilliam Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Merry Christmas! Thanks for the pun play on words. Edited December 11, 2021 by KiWilliam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefontaine Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 When you cancel treaties to not get hit, but still get hit. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr James Wilson Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 SeKrIt TrEaTy!!!!11111 2 2 Quote The Volleyball Avanti Immortali ..one, two, Jimmy's coming for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Ok this is epic Quote Why are you reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Good luck! Enjoy the blitz Keegoz Edited December 11, 2021 by Big Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hidude45454 Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 You know something has gone horribly wrong when: HoF and tS are blitzing together Rose and Jaden are agreeing with each other Camelot and Carthago upvote the same post Akuryo and Firwof share the same sentiment HW and Rose are staying out of it I can only wish you all the best of luck! 1 25 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiloist II Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Burned by what I created. I’ve truly made it in this game. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutedfaith Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Yes, how dare we not roll over and die. And how dare we sign actual treaties when we are threatened, and not just hop into a convenient paperless coalition. We obviously need the lesson. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Renarus Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arln Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Your treaty is so wrong!!! Hey let’s sign a secret treaty and be even bigger 🤗🤗🤗 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovapn Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Good luck 😏😏😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keegoz Posted December 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mutedfaith said: Yes, how dare we not roll over and die. And how dare we sign actual treaties when we are threatened, and not just hop into a convenient paperless coalition. We obviously need the lesson. You were worried that 2 alliances were going to roll your entire bloc? Or just incapable of reading? 11 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 Holy crap this is the first time in like 3-4 years I haven't been involved in a war, is this that pixel hugging thing you guy are always talking about? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KindaEpicMoah Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 28 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey6 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 yeah yeah yeah yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 All I can say is, you had it coming 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kyubnyan Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 SMH, server didn't even crash. Not a true global. 2 18 2 Quote Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramona Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Keegoz said: 08/12/2021 is a Wednesday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaHD Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 and so it begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutedfaith Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Keegoz said: You were worried that 2 alliances were going to roll your entire bloc? Or just incapable of reading? Incapable of mind reading at least. How the !@#$ did you expect us to know half your bloc wouldn't roll out. If it's even true, and not just a spin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) Off to War!EVER FORWARD! HAIL PHOENIX! Edited December 12, 2021 by JadenStar10 Quote Coal Emperor of The Coal Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Mutedfaith said: Incapable of mind reading at least. How the !@#$ did you expect us to know half your bloc wouldn't roll out. If it's even true, and not just a spin. The fact no one else in the sphere milled up? 1 3 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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