Popular Post 丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted March 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Measuring a summer's war, I only finds it slips away to beige, The hours, they bring me pain. Tangerine, Tangerine, Living reflection from a dream; I was her ally, she was my meatshield, And now a thousand turns between. Thinking how it used to be, Does she still remember times like these? To think of us again? And I do. RIP TKR-TCW Edited March 21, 2019 by ?ϟħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™? 6 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majima Goro Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Oof - slack logs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 968 Edited February 17, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Sigh, Looks like TKR needs to hire a plumber to plug those leaks. Edited March 21, 2019 by Sphinx 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Sphinx said: *Sigh*, Looks like TKR needs to hire a plumber to plug those leaks. TKR is New SK 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benfro Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 My first celebrity SNN and Slack screenshots OWF appearance? I’m finally famous! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 show me on the doll where sphinx touched you @Nizam Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 logs aren't real, we learned our lesson already 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sphinx Posted March 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, hope said: show me on the doll where sphinx touched you @Nizam Adrienne Obviously my voodoo magic to break up EMC worked. But joking aside its a mutual break up, Nizam and I agreed it would be best for both of us. TKR's got some great members, and overall they're a great bunch of people but all good things must come to an end this break allows us to move forward with my goals for tCW's new FA direction. I know several alliances who wanted to work with tCW but didn't want to be tied to TKR (Which is entirely understandable), and this is the chance to embark on those, it also gives tCW a new identity so we aren't "TKR Lite". Once again Shifty's leaks preempt a planned move..... still I'm looking forward to the OWF announcement for tCW's new path and plans. ;,P 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhuto Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 sad to see TKR-tcw breakup it was a looong lasting tie but all good things must come to an end ? Also why is this guy log-dumping ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Hey Knights! I just wanted to update you guys a little more on our FA direction and the route we’re considering. This has been the result of extensive conversation and reflection over the last month or so and we think we’ve come to a decision but we want to make sure you guys are on board as well because we’re looking at a pretty big change. A few weeks back, we received an offer to join a new bloc with alliances we’ve not been previously allied to on the understanding that we end our ties with our current allies (not including protectorates). After a lot of discussion internally and with our allies, we’ve decided it may be best we part ways following this last war and start to chart our own paths. This change will help destroy some of the narratives previously used against us when we got hit last war, which would make a repeat of those events unlikely and bring in new support in the event that one does happen. All this being said, we have no intention to leave our old allies without help if someone should try and take advantage of us splitting to hit them. Keep in mind also that while “EMC” will come to an end, that doesn’t mean that we can never work together again or will immediately find ourselves on opposite sides. There are more things that align us than divide us at the moment. When the FA team presented our possible options to government, our gov members took a good hard look at everything, picked every point apart, and asked tons of questions. After turning everything upside, we agreed this is our best move. We’re thinking about the next war and the war after that and we believe this is a good direction for the both the short and long term health and success of TKR. More than anything, what I’m hoping we’ll gain from this change is a clean slate for TKR. The war destroyed a lot of the narratives being used against us, this change will destroy the rest of them and provide us with new opportunities. I want us to be a part of an exciting new endeavor with allies who will support us both on and off the battlefield, who we can trust, whose goals align with ours, and arguably most importantly, who we can have fun with. A big part of the appeal here for why we’re looking at this particular path over others is that the alliances we’d form this bloc with have no ties to either of the main two spheres currently and we’d be forming a brand new sphere with them. Some of them are people that we’ve fought, some of them are people that put terms on us or our coalition, but all of them are people you guys indicated on the FA survey that, as a group, you were more neutral or positive towards. So with that said, the new bloc we’re looking to form will be with Church of Spaceology and Seven Kingdoms. I know not all of you will be happy about this change but I encourage you to keep an open mind and get to know them. We wouldn’t be looking to make this change if we didn’t trust them or feel like this was the best path forward for our alliance. Feel free to ask questions either here, in #palanaeum, or in DMs with me or other members of the FA team. Please keep in mind that we may not be able to answer your question to the degree you’d like due to having to maintain opsec but we’ll answer everything we can to the best of our abilities. o7 TKR Adrienne Here's the forums post, from the person who leaked the slack logs to Shifty. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ryan1 said: This change will help destroy some of the narratives previously used against us when we got hit last war, which would make a repeat of those events unlikely and bring in new support in the event that one does happen. All this being said, we have no intention to leave our old allies without help if someone should try and take advantage of us splitting to hit them. Keep in mind also that while “EMC” will come to an end, that doesn’t mean that we can never work together again or will immediately find ourselves on opposite sides. There are more things that align us than divide us at the moment. So no change just picking up two top 10 upper tier alliances. Edited March 21, 2019 by The Mad Titan 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, Ryan1 said: Hey Knights! I just wanted to update you guys a little more on our FA direction and the route we’re considering. This has been the result of extensive conversation and reflection over the last month or so and we think we’ve come to a decision but we want to make sure you guys are on board as well because we’re looking at a pretty big change. A few weeks back, we received an offer to join a new bloc with alliances we’ve not been previously allied to on the understanding that we end our ties with our current allies (not including protectorates). After a lot of discussion internally and with our allies, we’ve decided it may be best we part ways following this last war and start to chart our own paths. This change will help destroy some of the narratives previously used against us when we got hit last war, which would make a repeat of those events unlikely and bring in new support in the event that one does happen. All this being said, we have no intention to leave our old allies without help if someone should try and take advantage of us splitting to hit them. Keep in mind also that while “EMC” will come to an end, that doesn’t mean that we can never work together again or will immediately find ourselves on opposite sides. There are more things that align us than divide us at the moment. When the FA team presented our possible options to government, our gov members took a good hard look at everything, picked every point apart, and asked tons of questions. After turning everything upside, we agreed this is our best move. We’re thinking about the next war and the war after that and we believe this is a good direction for the both the short and long term health and success of TKR. More than anything, what I’m hoping we’ll gain from this change is a clean slate for TKR. The war destroyed a lot of the narratives being used against us, this change will destroy the rest of them and provide us with new opportunities. I want us to be a part of an exciting new endeavor with allies who will support us both on and off the battlefield, who we can trust, whose goals align with ours, and arguably most importantly, who we can have fun with. A big part of the appeal here for why we’re looking at this particular path over others is that the alliances we’d form this bloc with have no ties to either of the main two spheres currently and we’d be forming a brand new sphere with them. Some of them are people that we’ve fought, some of them are people that put terms on us or our coalition, but all of them are people you guys indicated on the FA survey that, as a group, you were more neutral or positive towards. So with that said, the new bloc we’re looking to form will be with Church of Spaceology and Seven Kingdoms. I know not all of you will be happy about this change but I encourage you to keep an open mind and get to know them. We wouldn’t be looking to make this change if we didn’t trust them or feel like this was the best path forward for our alliance. Feel free to ask questions either here, in #palanaeum, or in DMs with me or other members of the FA team. Please keep in mind that we may not be able to answer your question to the degree you’d like due to having to maintain opsec but we’ll answer everything we can to the best of our abilities. o7 TKR Adrienne Here's the forums post, from the person who leaked the slack logs to Shifty. Rough having stuff leaked on ya, have fun with your new mates. 1 3 Quote “ Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. †–The First Ideal of the Windrunners, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Hilmes said: Rough having stuff leaked on ya, have fun with your new mates. Leaks help keep the game interesting in my opinion. 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarr Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Shifty, leak leg pics from there to me ? Edited March 21, 2019 by Nexa 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mikey Posted March 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Damnit TKR, must you take everything that made us special? First you cramped our style as another fantasy series themed orange alliance, and now you even leak? That was the one thing we were good at... Edited March 21, 2019 by Mikey 12 1 Quote Archduke Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Reach, Warden of the South, Breaker of Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefontaine Posted March 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2019 Friendly neighborhood advocate of leaving old allies behind and finding new ones from time to time here. Stating you're leaving being formal allies while still willing to get each others backs if push comes to shove is not breaking ties and getting new ones, it's appearing to break ties and stack on more. Part of the reason you all were hit in the last war. Something I've said often in my time here. You don't have to ally your friends. You can also ally your enemies. Politics is politics. Perhaps you and a past enemy have a new common enemy, or common goal. You can work with people you don't like to achieve things. When you constantly work with your same friends, you stagnate politics. If you'll always get their back with or without treaties while being a papered alliance, you again stagnate politics. If you do intend on breaking your treaties, I hope the next time you're involved together in a war it's against one another. That would make a far more interesting story, and you'd be surprised how fun it can be fighting friends. The point is, don't break the treaty and still support each other as if you hadn't. Break the treaty and forge your own paths independent of one another. Don't fall back and lean upon your former friends simply because it's easy. 9 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Auctor Posted March 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2019 It's harder to virtue signal about decreasing ties if suddenly just because you cancel treaties you can't essentially maintain the exact same treaty dynamics. 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward I Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Quote This change will help destroy some of the narratives previously used against us when we got hit last war, which would make a repeat of those events unlikely and bring in new support in the event that one does happen. All this being said, we have no intention to leave our old allies without help if someone should try and take advantage of us splitting to hit them. Keep in mind also that while “EMC” will come to an end, that doesn’t mean that we can never work together again or will immediately find ourselves on opposite sides. There are more things that align us than divide us at the moment. Like the narrative that TKR "broke up" a sphere by turning a bunch of traditional treaties into secret treaties and sanctimoniously criticized other people for having too many treaties? It's good to see TKR has started making substantive changes to its foreign policy by turning a traditional mutual defense treaty into a secret mutual defense agreement. 8 hours ago, Sphinx said: it also gives tCW a new identity so we aren't "TKR Lite" Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spaceman Thrax Posted March 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2019 For those of you who enjoyed "secret treaty whining" and "criticizing anyone who actually tries to do anything about the sphere dynamic they purported to found their sphere to combat", the first seven times IQ did it, I have excellent news for you... 4 8 1 Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Spaceman Thrax said: For those of you who enjoyed "secret treaty whining" and "criticizing anyone who actually tries to do anything about the sphere dynamic they purported to found their sphere to combat", the first seven times IQ did it, I have excellent news for you... You mean the secret treaties that were proven to exist? Perhaps you might have forgotten the adamant denial of their existence, and trying to use it as leverage to break other ties. This is the ssdd. Edited March 21, 2019 by The Mad Titan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarr Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, The Mad Titan said: -snip- This coming from BK member is rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nexa said: This coming from BK member is rich. Last I checked BK has no secret treaties? Unless you know something I don’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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