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https://discord.gg/hJQ8jjHe2k Last for this announcement, but certainly not the least, we here at The Company would like to wish a Merry Christmas to everyone! Foremost, much health, happiness and joys of life to yourselves, your families, your beloved ones. May the year ahead be better than the one we leave behind us, and may you all have pleasant holidays.

but vein weak :serious:

Just don't let Sphinx do any FA, ever.

How about this bot spam? I don't care about the new mehanic that's introduced to spam nation's notifications. Why should I recive a message about it from a random person I don't even care about.

I can’t stay away from alliances with the acronym of TC

We use a recruitment bot too, the thing is ours doesn't send 6 messages in the same day, the way yours has if you read or didn't ignore the timestamps. When I got it to send 3 to people by running multiple at once, as swamp was doing the same, Alex demanded everyone cease and desist immediately or warns would be handed out for spamming. It's straight spam, no other alliances recruiter does this, unless specifically calibrated to do this.

@Dwight k Schrute seems like you finally found some courage after all this time.

The Company Stronk!

Communists, fascists, and liberals sleeping together, mass hysteria!

Oh, you must be new. Rule #1 of PnW, don't speak unless you have an alliance and a few billion money backing you. Wish I took my own advice smh.

Its not though. Have you noticed that the only people who have the information you want are the also the ones not talking to you? Why should it be made public and why was it more important for that information to be public? It didn't shed light on anything, and only turned people against you. With all this leaking, what information do you have that wasn't already known by the time you arrived? I don't think you have grasped that we all get what you're trying to do. The issue is, you are now being told that you "putting the pieces out there" (leaking) is not appreciated. Again, you are not doing a service or making demonstrating anything that isn't already known, you are just marking yourself as an untrustworthy individual.

Phoenyx, what would you be confirming by leaking and expecting an opposing party to play along? You don't have any guarantee of honesty or transparency there at all. Apparently you haven't been paying attention: Leaking as carelessly as you have puts cooperating sides at odds with another, and damages reputation since there is potential for it to be misrepresented. We've seen it with Ronny and Tyrion, we've seen it with you, and we've seen it with Boyce and Sphinx (although this was deliberate). You're not illuminating anything by leaking, you're just showing everyone you are naive and untrustworthy.

"What happened was that we had a difference of opinion. I'm fairly sure he was always aware that I might share what he told me- from the get go, he said that if I wanted to be involved, I would have to keep what he told me in private and initially, I thought that might work. And it did, for a time. But not for long." Everyone in this thread is giving you good solid advice and a massive second chance to be accepted in this game and you choose to spit in their faces... You focus so, so much on politics. (I get it, it's politics and war) However you really should focus more on the people and individuals involved. Even if you think some info should be leaked to public for the greater good you should at least ask the other person involved if they consent to release information or block out their name if they want privacy. I don't understand how you can not show anyone this basic courtesy and respect and think you are in the right morally.

I am both amazed and confused by the amount of detail you put into dissecting 2 words lol.

Good grief... I can't even. But I'll try. @Phoenyx, there's a concept that you should be introduced to: It's called "trust". "Trust" means considering that other people may know more than you do, and therefore their decisions may be better for you, personally, than you might think given what you think you know at the time. "Trust" means that when you find someone worthy of following, you at least consider what they say and do to be at least possibly correct, and you give them the benefit of the doubt and don't outright revolt against their decisions by default. You see, sometimes we don't know things. Either our understanding is flawed, or we simply don't have the information ahead of time. Ideally of course we would research that information, but it is logistically impossible to develop a full scholarly knowledge that's objectively true about literally everything, especially complex multiplayer environments such as politics and warfare wherein there are multiple competing reasons for the same exact things even from the same side, let alone opposing sides. We can indeed do so with hindsight, but even the deepest spies and highest lords of this realm cannot achieve such clarity by the time decisions must be made. Therefore, in those cases, we must delegate at least some of our decision making process to our leaders, allies, or advisors. Ones that we "trust", so that we can make a decision with a much more reasonable level of surety. When we refuse to "trust", however, we must act entirely on our own observations, and it is physically impossible to achieve full and comprehensive observation of all things. One can achieve that with hindsight, eventually, given sufficient "trust" to be informed by those that know the bits one does not. However, by then the world has moved on and decisions have to be made that need observations from the present. Therefore, "trust" is mandatory in order to compete on an equal level as anyone else, and mandatory in order to make decisions that are beneficial for, or at least less detrimental to those that "trust" the one making the decisions. Thing is, while you might know these things in terms of yourself, your selfishness has blinded you to the most fundamental truth of all: "Trust" works both ways. You have to make decisions based on your observations and research... and so does everyone else. There's therefore another concept you should be told about: It's called "insult". "Insult" can sometimes mean making it clear to someone that they should not trust you. Even if you intend to deal with them fairly, their observations of you are negatively impacted. Any insight you might give them, even if true and accurate, are rendered useless by virtue of your prior actions towards them creating an environment devoid of "trust". When you re-post something that someone told you privately and in confidence, then you "insult" them and show them that they should not have "trusted" their assumption of privacy and confidentiality. When this happens, they cannot "trust" anything else about you without risk, so they must remain mindful of that. This is costly, and when one's decisions affect others' welfare or effect changes in the environment of the world, such costs cannot be taken lightly. Thus, it is simpler and safer to just plain not "trust" you after such an "insult".

---------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way, something you might be ignorant of: Your forum reputation? The number there is misleading. You see, downvotes don't count. As a favor to you, I went to the trouble of checking up on your total reputation all the way up through last week. Specifically Saturday. Here it is, in a handy graph form: (Graph information: X-axis represents a group of 25 posts from when Phoenyx initially began posting, y-axis is total reputation including upvotes, laugh reactions (which are counted as upvotes), 'like' reactions (which are also upvotes), and downvotes. 'Thanks' reactions are not counted either way.) And for the record, yes my own downvotes *and* upvotes are counted, and I did not inflate them at all. Yes, I did upvote a few of your more coherent posts, you're welcome Also, fun fact: A negative reputation of that magnitude makes you the single most hated poster of all active posters, at least of the ones that aren't literally asking for downvotes. Congratulations 🎉 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- So! Now that the first round of our little war is over, we now have the chance to negotiate peace. And since you expect peace negotiations to happen in public, here they shall happen, Mr. @Phoenyx. I await your reply

Because you'd have trouble finding 3 wise men and a vir-.... especially after getting ****'d by rayyds lmao Tis' the season my dudes, nothing better than waking up to leaks after a holiday binger and seeing Alex kiss Santa Claus.

tldr?

Mate, the war is over and you're still looking for "Ronny's HM leader" for you to get to the bottom of this. No one with the info you want is talking to you, that's why you're still here. You leaked because people are confused as to why the war started? But everyone knows why the war started, there is like 28+ page thread for it. The only point of contention was who was at fault for the escalation. That doesn't justify a leak. I don't know what you understand from trustworthiness. You can be honest without being a liability, you can give the truth and provided evidence when prompted for it WITH support from your source in doing so. But no, you leak conversations and blindside the other person and that's without being challenged or prompted for evidence by anyone. How does that make you trustworthy? Its not just about being 100% transparent.

good luck and merry christmas as well~

The fact that you believe what you are citing to be important is evidence enough that you have no idea what is going on. It’s all smoke and mirrors. Both sides of the war know what it was about, what is put out publicly is an attempt to win a PR battle. You’re taking the PR quick hits and using them as evidence/the Bible. That’s why no one thinks you’re credible, and the reason why the only people that are giving you your desired upvotes are the other people that have yet to learn how politics (and be able to see the truth of the political climate) on Orbis works. Edit: Also, Merry Christmas

I use a recruitment bot, like every other alliance out there. It works by sending an in-game message to new nations that have been made in the past 7 days who aren’t in an alliance. With the person in question, he didn’t join an alliance until recently, therefore the person will have received in game messages from the bot until said person joined an alliance. If you’ve any other queries please feel free to contact me through discord or use my email address, [email protected]

Specifically adding onto "When you re-post something that someone told you privately and in confidence, then you insult them and show them that they should not have "trusted" their assumption of privacy and confidentiality." This, Pheonyx, is why "opsec" exists. Things that are classified as secrets, because them being leaked can negatively impact everybody, be it reputation or otherwise. If somebody had leaked the paperless treaties among Hedge, Rose, etc., then things would have gone on very differently - Quack might not have attacked, the coalition may have never formed or rushed to eachothers mutual defense, etc. If somebody had leaked Quack's plans to attack Rose and/or Hedge (I have heard variations of who they planned on hitting first), Rose/Hedge may have attacked first (if they didn't - again, it is unclear). "Trust" plays an important role in our community, and the designation of "opsec" is there for the exact reason of "trust" and allowing plans to be safely executed - instead of the details being leaked by any random member, foiling the entire plan. If Quack's plans were leaked, they could have been dogpiled even faster. If Hedge/Rose/etc.'s paperless treaties were leaked, that could have spelt doom to the whole coalition and maybe lose them the war. By violating this "trust", not only would more people lose pixels (a meaningless thing in a web game, of course), but real life relationships could be severed over the resulting paranoia. This game community allowed me to find a home with comrades. If I had instead leaked everything ASM ever did to RON or something, I could've sacrificed myself to being homeless for Gods knows how much longer.

Considering you were part of a coalition that put a 1 year NAP into peace terms, I don't think you have much room for criticism 😛

I thought Phoenyx was ok until he went on this anti-vaxxer tirade in Thalmoria kek.

Rose be e-lawyering w/ the NAP terms to avoid rayyds. They also want to protecc the VM folks. They're flexing, saying they can muscle their way out of the whole "punish war dodgers" initiative, and that they'd be on par, w/ everyone else, regarding raids. But they also aren't saying it officially, because DtC doesn't speak for Rose, just threatens/advises would be raiders. 😂👌🔥💯

my condolences to all involved rawr

You might have an alliance, sure, but we both know empirically that they're not backing you at all

Good luck to y'all, have a great Christmas.

Merry Christmas Aurora

In response to spnewbs's WOT: So in much much fewer words, you are not smart enough to fight efficiently and you want curbstomp wars to be even more one sided than they already are. All of a nations spies can be wiped out in one round of spy attacks and then they are a sitting duck for the rest of the war. You can only build 1 nuke and 2 missiles per day and if they are not protected they will be destroyed with the 3 spy attacks per day that can be run on a nation. There is a reason that nukes are protected from until the next server reset after they are built (not 24 hours btw). I do love that people on the winning side of a curbstomp war complain that the losing side has any way of fighting back and doing damage.

Sarcasm works just fine.

Pog some people actually read it, lez go. Pro gamer move worked. Advice for the day, play Halo. Get a crush on Cortana. Get upset when she wants to take over the universe. Act tough and wait for Halo Infinite. Totally not what I've been doing the past 2 weeks or anything 😛

To begin with, this analogy is just strange bruh. Parents shouldn't confide in their kids in this manner. Second, what does this example illustrate and how does it relate to this game? What is it about your parents venting their problem to you, that proves keeping information given to you in confidence can be harmful?

Cut infra damage from nukes dramatically, say 500 infra per attack. Instead, nukes mostly target military. A successful nuke destroys 50% of any type of unit (the attacker chooses which unit it targets). Reasons: 1) Requires coordination with other players to use to maximum effect. One player nukes, other players follow up with attacks based on that type of unit. 2) This change would make nukes more dynamic, not just a substitute for conventional attacks like they are now. 3) Good balance in that it gives players more opportunities to fight back conventionally against specific types of units without eliminating the winning side generally having the edge in most categories of military. I'd also consider drastically increasing the impact of radiation. Maybe resource and military improvements don't function in a city until all radiation the dissipates.

Because Ronny is good, and he's been a player for a very, very long time. He has a trustworthy reputation. What I don't understand is why a self admitted new player who does not seem to understand what the term 'opsec' means and changes alliances the way most of us change pants feels that player like Ronny or Tyrion owe them an explanation. These players lead, that is enough for those who follow them. It is enough for the rest of us. It should be enough for you. We all follow our leaders. When they start to consistently make bad decisions, most alliances replace those leaders. The fact that people like Ronny are still leading speaks volumes to their credit. You need to lurk more. Honestly, truthfully no offense intended, and I hope you have a merry Christmas.

That's the thing - what you've "revealed" is kinda public knowledge anyway. All the different spheres gave their public reasons for fighting - but that's irrelevant. The OWF has, is, and always will be a stage. It's kinda like basing your knowledge of the Scottish monarchy off Macbeth. The real action, again, is behind closed doors. The things every alliance / sphere says in public, and what they say in the closed door discussions, is completely different. There's paperless treaties, different possible CBs, and all sorts of things that I don't have any idea about, and i'm the low gov FA person for ASM. The real politics of this game happens in secret. Edit: Let me give an example from the real world. In 1618, Bohemian aristocrats chucked a Holy Roman official out of a window in Prague, igniting the Thirty Years War - a conflict that dragged Europe into a decades-long slaughter. The common soldier was fighting for God, be it Catholic rule or Protestant. However, the real reason many of these empires went to war was completely different. King Gustavus Adolfus of Sweden claimed to be fighting in defense of Protestantism - but was really fighting to expand Swedish control in the Baltic and northern Germany. The French rode out to combat the Holy Roman Empire, despite both of them being nominally Catholic - because the French wanted to curb Austrian aggression. The casus bellis we are given are not the actual causes for war. But we will likely never know what really ignites these things, because they happen in secret and for underhanded reasons. It is not our place to know, and that is why we are not at the negotiation tables.

Just got around to seeing this thread

Oh. Hey. More Phoenyx attention.

Damn Phoenyx beat Vacaid in amount of Downvotes

I've no idea what is going on, but someone should fire Vero all the same.

Well, I skipped to the end but I agree with everything everyone has said and simultaneously disagree with them as well. Arrgh?

@Dwight k Schrute Why are you so cringe bro?

Where is No Pixel Order in your announcement smh

HAIL PANTHEON!

meanwhile, in Syndicate HQ:

There's a blog function on these forums, I suggest using that instead of posting 30 threads in Orbis Central.

One thing I can say for sure is that someone in your position. Not a Gov member of any of the alliances in the war, will not be the one to achieve any sort of agreement. All you do by rambling on like you do is ensure that you have no influence. I'd suggest taking a step back, evaluating your position and work to get yourself to a position where you can have influence (if this is what you desire) before you try to demand it, by rambling in every forum post.

Thanos do be having that drip though.

Binge watching the newest anime of the season, the weebs were too busy sitting on their couches eating taiyaki while the war on Orbis raged. "Hmm... wasn't Putmir and the others supposed to be here with us? They was supposed to bring the dango... where'd they go?" The dango was gone, stolen by the big bad Quacks as they held our dear friends captive. This was not to be tolerated, and taking inspiration from what we had watched on TV, the weebs have decided this: We NEETs will no longer live in the darkness. We will stand to defend our precious snacks (and friends too). We might be late to the party, but now that we're here, Let the show begin! TL;DR : Weebunism declares war on anyone at war against tCW.