hope Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Malleator said: Yeah, I'd type to him on DIscord and be like, "Dude, why was your password, "Password?"" i dont feel i need to explain why hacking is bad and it's far more than "weak password." any malicious intent to harm an enemy through OOC manners is wrong and im not sure why that isnt registering in your brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Why do I feel that there’s so much irony in this thread? There is such a thing as an IC/OOC line that shouldn't be crossed. If people kept in-game political hate to in-game actions, toxicity would decrease exponentially. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightKnight Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 This is beyond disgraceful if it is an intentional action. They must be held accountable. Hope that Alex will do some investigation here. This war is one thing, but this was someone's hard work and dedication that was destroyed for no reason. No one would want that to happen to them. You should be ashamed of yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Marx Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Why do I feel that there’s so much irony in this thread? It's quite astounding since you are lacking in self-awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Why do I feel that there’s so much irony in this thread? There's only people overeating if what happened was simply nations removed from the alliance, I don't see irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edward I Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Hacking and cheating are the fastest ways to destroy the integrity the game and the enjoyment derived from it. 1 hour ago, Buorhann said: Devil's Advocate spin here. In the log dumps, it was pretty clear their gov didn't care about people leaving/quitting the game. So I wouldn't be surprised if someone decided to take it upon themselves to ruin their game too. 40 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Why do I feel that there’s so much irony in this thread? Since it bears repeating: We're not going to be super torn up if people delete because they feel entitled either to winning wars or, more generally, to the universal acceptance of their preferred style of gameplay. The absence of either of those things won't "ruin" someone's game. If anyone claims we forced them to delete, that's on them. We don't have access to the accounts of our IC adversaries, and no one can hit the delete button for anyone else. Unless, of course, someone gains access to others' accounts illicitly, which is what appears to have happened here. Regardless of what happened here, cheating and hacking are wrong and should be punished to the maximum extent of our IC and OOC abilities. Your tiptoeing towards a justification of this isn't much better. Hacking actually does ruin someone's game, and the threat of hacking or tolerance of hacking (by the player base) ruin's everyone's game. Posts like this make you, at best, a useful idiot and at worst an apologist and de facto accomplice. Edited January 13, 2020 by Edward I 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, hope said: frick off with the victim blaming shit. (if) leo got hacked it isnt his fault this happened and saying “well bk is shit anyways so they deserve it” is really fricked. this kind of OOC fricking with people’s nations isnt cute or fun and we should all be standing by each other condemning this kind of behavior oddly enough you supported GOONS when they stated they along with BK/NPO will raid me until i quit, how is that any less of an ooc attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Tiberius said: There is such a thing as an IC/OOC line that shouldn't be crossed. If people kept in-game political hate to in-game actions, toxicity would decrease exponentially. Yet NPO was part of the group wanting to force me to delete, that is an OOC act, but when it happens to someone on your side its a new IC and OOC lines being crossed, Quick edit, in the logs you guys even stated if i delete and remake you will keep raiding me until i quit, before you claim its only in game actions Edited January 13, 2020 by Elijah Mikaelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bjorn Ironside said: oddly enough you supported GOONS when they stated they along with BK/NPO will raid me until i quit, how is that any less of an ooc attack? a) didnt happen b) whataboutism subpoint of b) you said this to me yesterday telling my alliance to die with GOONS c) you are defending hacking into someone's account for political gain, fix your prioities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, hope said: a) didnt happen b) whataboutism subpoint of b) you said this to me yesterday telling my alliance to die with GOONS c) you are defending hacking into someone's account for political gain, fix your prioities not supporting hacking in anyway, I do not think leo was hacked, was not that long ago he did something like this, until alex clears it up i think leo did this himself yes it did happen in the pnw discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bjorn Ironside said: Yet NPO was part of the group wanting to force me to delete, that is an OOC act, but when it happens to someone on your side its a new IC and OOC lines being crossed, To quote Edward: Quote If anyone claims we forced them to delete, that's on them. We don't have access to the accounts of our IC adversaries, and no one can hit the delete button for anyone else. You are being pursued for IC actions, peace doesn't have to be an option in a game called Politics and War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalev60 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Well this sucks, illegal acts can never be tolerated and part of any community even one as toxic as this one. Leaving the morality of committing a less visious crime on a known criminal (trying to force folks out game is as bad as it gets for Orbis, some Thanos level supervillain stuff) out of this, I think the reasoning if you don´t want it done to you, don´t promote it being done to others applies here just fine . Also I´m sorry IQ has put so much pressure on the hacker that they felt their only way out or to get even was to commit a crime. I´m also sorry for the sad state of Orbis were people might think two wrongs might make a right and blame a victim no matter how well deserving or not. OOC stuff is never cool, be it doxing or hacking accounts... Edited January 13, 2020 by kalev60 1 4 Charlie Chaplin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: To quote Edward: You are being pursued for IC actions, peace doesn't have to be an option in a game called Politics and War. leave out the part where NPO said fi i remake a new nation they would hunt me down and force me to delete again, that would be an OOC attack but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Menhera Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Epi said: I'm not even surprised at this point. When our opponents break their agreements, steal banks and knowingly break the war-rules. Is hacking and couping us really above them? No it seems it's not. I hope the perpetrators are banned for this offense. Thing is, hacking you is above us. We don't support this action in any way and we gladly help finding the one responsible for that. And Coalition B knows enough about breaking agreements, stabbing in the back of their allies, trying to find loopholes in the games rules, attempting to kill off opponent communities, forcing alliances to disband, gaslighting, misleading and lying to pretty much everyone in this game, even their own members. You aren't in a position to make such false accusations just to distract from everything that you have done. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lury Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 well like most people are saying never make your forum password you actual pnw pass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Riddle Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 Epstein didn't kill himself. 1 10 ^ NO LONGER^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Arathorn said: By the way, well done @George Got his password from when you were running bknet I take it? lol And within moments of this, Demacia returned it all to BK bank when they saw what was happening. might want to check your bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bjorn Ironside said: And within moments of this, Demacia returned it all to BK bank when they saw what was happening. might want to check your bank Whatever floats your boat good sir. "I VM due to timezone differences" -Reuben Cheuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bjorn Ironside said: leave out the part where NPO said fi i remake a new nation they would hunt me down and force me to delete again, that would be an OOC attack but whatever. I mean it only becomes an OOC attack if that action takes place. People make all kinds of threats for whatever reason. However I don't see any progress or action to carry out what you are putting forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RefleX Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Guys, you forget that @Alex can literally just revert the game’s State back like a few hours or days and everything will be fine. I’m all for bashing the perpetrator with the ban hammer, but we don’t need to freak out about the game itself. He’s done it before, he’ll do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Edward I said: Hacking and cheating are the fastest ways to destroy the integrity the game and the enjoyment derived from it. Since it bears repeating: We're not going to be super torn up if people delete because they feel entitled either to winning wars or, more generally, to the universal acceptance of their preferred style of gameplay. The absence of either of those things won't "ruin" someone's game. If anyone claims we forced them to delete, that's on them. We don't have access to the accounts of our IC adversaries, and no one can hit the delete button for anyone else. Unless, of course, someone gains access to others' accounts illicitly, which is what appears to have happened here. Regardless of what happened here, cheating and hacking are wrong and should be punished to the maximum extent of our IC and OOC abilities. Your tiptoeing towards a justification of this isn't much better. Hacking actually does ruin someone's game, and the threat of hacking or tolerance of hacking (by the player base) ruin's everyone's game. Posts like this make you, at best, a useful idiot and at worst an apologist and de facto accomplice. There's a difference between being indifferent about players deleting on their own will to making it your goal to have alliances suffer from players deleting from the game. 9 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 No sympathy for the people that wanted to outright kill their opposition. Revel in the toxicity you helped manifest. 1 Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cooper_ said: I get the point here, but please take the political stuff elsewhere. Anyone who tries to justify this is just as bad as they are. I know it isn't exactly what you're saying, but I think the whole "they tried to make us delete, so we should look the other way when they get hurt" thing is bs. What is it that we are fighting for if we lose our morals when it isn't us? There is far more awful stuff going on in the back channels than you, and the vast majority of the community here, realize. I was not, nor have I ever, justified such actions before. My only statement was that I'm not surprised this course of action occurred given the knowledge that I know, that is, if a player indeed managed to get their account info and took it upon themselves to act against any transgressions against them. Let alone, there's a lot of conflictions of whether this was caused by a player(s) or by BK's own scripts. Edited January 13, 2020 by Buorhann 3 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sval Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, Epi said: I'm not even surprised at this point. When our opponents break their agreements, steal banks and knowingly break the war-rules. Is hacking and couping us really above them? No it seems it's not. It would not surprise me one bit if it turned out that the peddling of this narrative was why this "hack" happened in the first place. 2 <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) This was definitely malicious, the timing is not coincidental. It seems TKR at least feigns an honorable reputation, whilst the rest of you abandon it. Woe befalls those that work with Cock Bloc. Edited January 13, 2020 by Epi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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