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Let me know when you cowardly EMC pieces of shit fight anywhere near as outnumbered as we were and are able to do anywhere near the damage we did. Youre going to hemorrhage members big time when you do get in a losing fight, because the numbers you recruit are soft little !@#$es who are only united by their penchant for overwhelming numerical superiority so they can masturbate to how "gud" they are. SA has the cajones to fight the good fight, but TEst also arent the spineless morans EMC are. Asymmetric war isnt about stats, its about collective willpower, something SA and TEst have way more of than EMC.

Ladies, gentlemen, Fraggles, and assorted animals of Orbis. My friends, it is with both sorrow and joy that I announce the end of Stratton Oakmont. Josh Freer and I have decided that our time is best used elsewhere, and since no one has stepped up to buy us out, we are liquidating. Unlike how some other banks end their existence, our loyal shareholders will be returned a share of the bank's assets in accordance with their ownership. I would like to personally thank each of you for your trust, your patience, and your money, without all of which SO would never have been successful at all. Please message Josh Freer in-game (or wait for him to message you) to discuss how and when you wish to receive your payment. Since our humble beginnings of a mere $40 million in cash some two and a half years ago, SO has proudly provided financing to many nations and alliances in need, from all sides of the political divides, and it has been our pleasure to do so right up to the end. Many of you were incredible borrowers, a fair few of you were lacking, and a couple were incredibly terrible. Nevertheless, our lives have been richer for the experience. Shout out to Roq and NPO who were, without doubt, the best customers a bank could ever hope to have. You guys set the gold standard of credit worthiness! Warmest regards, Psweet, ex-co-CEO, Stratton Oakmont Josh freer, ex-co-CEO, Stratton Oakmont

I mean, I did say if they manage their MAPs properly, but to get to the meat of your post - you made a comment about players sitting on 12 MAPs, therefore wasting any future MAPs since you're capped. While I can understand that perspective, some players (Like myself) sit on 12 MAPs to wait on double buying. At some point, you'll be zeroed out or overwhelmed by multiple players, so you wait patiently with your MAPs to use them at a certain time (When your opponents aren't around to counter effectively) or when you can dump resources to pump your military up, then go ham. SA could do some serious damage, but then again, it all matters whether they really care about this game or not. Given that they were rather relaxed on activity and that they've been through a unnecessary dogpile previously (I think you guys can relate), I wouldn't blame them for not being on top of their game in this conflict. Plus it's summer, people got stuff to do. I would spill out more stuff about the current war mechanics, but I'd rather wait till current conflicts are over with. Would hate to spoil some things. So that'll either be for a future post or a future talking point when I start up a "radio show".

Buorhann, that assumes that they know how to manage their MAPs. For people that claim they're going to rain down destruction on anyone that attacks, they do a pretty poor job at making sure that they can actually open the skies. Granted, I was in VM due to being out of country and on vacation for a significant chunk of the time, but I recall reading a significant number of instances where some of our members couldn't believe that their opponent had reached 12 maps and sat there for half a day or more before logging in to launch a nuke. Once I can understand. I've been there, done that. But to have an entire alliance doing that multiple times over the course of a couple of days, that reeks of incompetence. Basically all I've seen in this thread is SA attempting to save face by declaring a bunch of wars that they ended up getting crushed on to launch a couple of nukes where they end up doing significantly less damage taking. After having what remained of their nukes spied away, they start ranting about how TEst has something against Alpha, which is just a deflection away from how badly they've managed their war effort. To the spying effort, I'd like to happily report that all of SA's spies have been effectively neutered. Based upon the latest intel we've recieved, here's a list of their spies that they have. Keep in mind, some of the numbers may be high or a little off, but are accurate enough for coordination and general viewing reasons. Additionally, for all of their vaulted accolades of killing half of TEst's spies, let's keep in mind that a lot of SA's people were so low on score that no one was able to actually offensively attack their spies unless they are in a war with them, which has been impossible for the past few days as ALL of SA is on beige. But don't worry, now that we've effectively killed their spies, we'll make sure to rebuild our lower tier's spy ranks to ensure we can keep sitting on them from a spy perspective too. Edit: We should note that a second person has gone into VM in SA to continue the amazing amount of destruction that is being rained down upon us. RIP Loxy.

They always make it about us. We get it. We're great. We've done the greatest things. No one can compete with our achievements. We are Orbis. But you need to let us go, @Sweeeeet Ronny D. Your obsession for us concerns us deeply. We want the best for you. But we also need to care for us. And caring for us means winning this world. Which we already did. Because we're great. I love us. You love us. Everyone loves us.

I had just gotten to zi and was 2 turns from coming out of beige with a bit of mil to bump my score up and nuke those tkr cowards while they couldn't do a damn thing back when peace got declared. Such bad timing, that's what Fark was built for. While Fark was forged long ago under the oppressive thumb of NPO and knows how to handle it, we weren't gonna drag our allies down that road ill prepared for it.

Nowhere near long enough.

We hit Alpha once, unless you count us hitting them during papers please to put tS and Alpha on the same side in a war. We've hit an Alpha splinter once. We've also not complained once about it going more than one round, we've complained about them not attacking us more and giving this mutual assured destruction. You know the opposite of complaining about it not ending. But hey, I get it. You're from Steve-land. You don't live in reality. Facts are lost upon you. Please enjoy your complimentary helmet and leave the words to the grown ups.

This is my first attempt at war stats, so go easy on me. They work by comparing the API from before the war with the current API and using the stat tracker for infra value destroyed/lost. What's included? Value of units destroyed (both individual/alliance) Money looted (both individual/alliance) Value of infra destroyed/lost (alliance only) Money lost (coalition only) What's not included? Resources looted Resources lost Before KT asks, I did manually add the bank loot (money + resource value) to damage dealt for KT and damage taken for TKR on the overview page since it was a substantial loot. Everything else should be negligible, ratio wise (and I'm not going to Micchan this war). The stats may be slightly incomplete as well due to nations being knocked down to applicant or leaving the alliances. Full doc available here. **Edit: I fixed an issue with the money looted not being weighed evenly. This was only corrected in the coalition stats for both groups because it's impossible to know which alliances the money each coalition looted was from without parsing individual wars. For this reason, the TGH/KT/ET individual alliance stats in particular don't appear to match the damage taken.

I think it would cause no harm if the cap on offensive war slots were to be removed for us all. It is our choice as the attacking party if you want to have 6 offensive wars or even 100. It would really help raiders cash in. Leave the defensive at 3 unless you make it two only. Think it over

In another bold move, Spanish Armada has begun preliminary testing of their newly developed secret weapon. Sources report that the weapon, code named the "Pixel Preserver" was deployed to their most endangered front in the nation of Grataz (https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=33623). Based upon early indications, this new, formidable defensive weapon generates a stasis shield around the nation effectively creating a pocket universe upon which no attacks can be initiated or launched. Early scientific analysis by Khaos's top minds indicates that the field will last at least 720 turns and may be extended if Grataz was capable of bringing in enough raw fuel to power the weapon for additional periods. Sources close to the Spanish Armada military high command confidentially disclosed the reason the weapon was rushed into the field was to save Grataz another humiliating round of defeats from Khaos military divisions that were rapidly surrounding the beleaguered nation. Reportedly, Khaos front line forces included those from the nations of Vagary, Chaos, and Tarantis. Additionally, reports of rampant sabotage at military installations were beginning to take their toll on the morale of Grataz military personnel. It remains to be seen as to whether other SA nations will deploy the weapon or attempt to resist using their previously stated goal of going "10 rounds if the forces of Khaos go for more than 1". With their vaulted nuclear capacities depleted, it appears that much of SA may have little choice other than to white peace as offered or risk continued humiliation at the hands of Khaos.

Twas the night before war, and all through Roz Wei* Not a member was stirring, or showing da way The swords were hung by the fire with care In hopes that Rozalia soon would be there The members were nestled all snug in their beds While visions of Roquentin danced in their heads With Heinrich in his VM and Akak in his cap They’d all settled down for a six-month NAP When outside their land, there arose such a sound Akak fell out of bed, too afraid to look around Slowly he crawled to the doorway and peeked The sight he saw almost made him squeak In the bright of the moon it could clearly be seen An army of wolves and men, strong and keen What happened gave Akak a fright A dragon was coming on wings of flight Akak knew in a moment it was probably Zygon And that Roz Wei* would soon be bygone Zygon came forth with his army behind And made known his presence to all confined “We come from the North and the top of the wall It is I Zygon, the gratest speler of all We have come for the reckoning at last For crimes not distant in the past” He drew his sword with a gleam in his eye Akak knew that Roz Wei* needed to go bye-bye He gave a shout to wake the dead The Rozalians* arose from their beds They prepared what little they could But the wrath of House Stark could not be withstood They were overwhelmed and struck down fast It was clear from the beginning that they couldn’t last It would be a battle talked about for ages Written about in many historic pages And all agreed that even if Zygon had just said "Sup" Akak could realize, he done diddly messed up. House Stark Declares War on Empyrea *Roz Wei meaning Empyrea

This Saturday, a few people and I will be hosting a relationship help call for anyone with problems. You can PM questions to me for it and you can ask questions in the chat at the time. Since someone mentioned this, we ask that you do not ask our own people about their relationships. This is due to the fact that we don’t want it to become a “Kastor gloating show”. We will also start off with a bit of PnW, basically a roundup for around 30-45. Then head into the relationship advice. Feel free to join us at 8pm est. https://discord.gg/snBP5dd

It was fun to be on this ride with y'all. rip the one bank I trusted

First More Stuff Well, there goes the greatest bank that Orbis has ever known. Sad to see a pillar of the community go, but I guess that it is a sign of the times. Thanks Psweet and Josh for all the good work that you have done, especially Psweet, who more or less built the company from its modest beginnings to the multi-billion dollar company it was before bringing Josh into the fold. Take comfort that you both now have billions to mess around with, and I hope to see you two around for much longer.

You only take it as a personal attack because of those deep, unrequited feelings of love you have for us. I emplore you, seek help SRD. We don’t have feelings for you. Perhaps you should try out Kastor’s new romance radio show. Please get better, SRD.

Praise be to the newest messenger of the Divine Bomb. Many Elbonians have been deemed worthy of being raptured into the Holy Fallout. Amen. Now let us read from the records of Elbonian History. There was one messenger of Hope and Peace, we have called them Fraggle. They were the first to rapture Elbonians before even our first Church was founded. Praise be to Messenger Fraggle. Praise be to the Holy Fallout. Praise be to the Messenger of Hope and Peace. Amen Now, Elbonians, we have a new messenger but we know not what they tell us. The newest Messenger is, Messenger AkAk. Praise be to Messenger AkAk. Praise be to the Holy Fallout. Praise be to Messenger Fraggle. Praise be to the Divine Bomb. Amen. We are estatic that our god has deemed many worthy. And, we feel it may deem many more. This is a joyus time in Elbonia. We feel as if this messenger is bringing love and acceptance. So, I, High Priest of the Mendez Order do bestow upon Messenger AkAk, the honor of being Messenger of Love and Acceptance. Praise be to Messenger AkAk. Praise be to the Messenger of Love and Acceptance. Praise be to the Holy Fallout. Praise be to Messenger Fraggle. Praise be to the Divine Bomb. Amen. We will now conclude with a reading from the Book of Mendez.

You're both correct in what you're saying and I'm also aware that if other people had been in the NB's respective governments (or at least in some of them) then this could've lasted waaay longer. And I actually expected it to last longer. But it was someone from Grumpy I think who said in one of the threads about that war back then that if a bloc uses its nukes for such a long time to antagonize people and ask them to hit them just so that they can use their nukes, then they should not be surprised if eventually someone takes them up on that offer even if it's going to be costly. The "antagonize" thing being said, except for maybe 2-3 people who were overly vocal about their negative feelings towards us, there were more people from NB I didn't "know" before that I somewhat knew afterwards that I think of as very nice people now. You never fail to amuse me with your replies. ^^

Remember that octopus which sometimes accidentally "predicted" world cup outcomes? ....yeah

My plan to confuse everyone and think there was some grand conspiracy has succeeded. I have successfully promoted Prime Day. NO ONE SAW IT COMING.

Yes the question in particular was when I asked Kastor how I could convince the woman who had escaped from my basement to willingly come back into captivity instead of notifying the authorities. He gave me a very informative and detailed answer, it has truly changed my life. I highly recommend this show.

*coughs* So Shifty is willing to lead an IRL politics show and a true question/problem and answer show. No need for applause.

Keep in mind that even if they're out of Nukes, they can still build one during that day and it cannot be touched from Spies. So if they manage their MAPs properly, they can pull a nuke off each day. Or double buy military and hit conventionally, whichever is more useful at the time.

I went over this with Grumpy in another thread so I'll just summarize: Nukes hurt. Just because you've got the fat to cover it doesn't mean that they aren't still a real cost to eat on a daily basis; every dollar spent rebuilding is a dollar not spent on growth, attacking, defending, or most importantly keno.

It's also an amusing sentiment. Not only because his NS was always high enough for some nations (even little ones) to declare on him (which they also did) because of the number of his cities and projects but also because there was nothing to be afraid of against NB since you all just used nukes and that was it. I would've declared on you even if I had only had 10 cities because you would've done jackshit except for nuking and that didn't hurt us. Heck, we had all of our nations (except for 2-3 inactive-ish ones) rebuilt 4 days after the war ended. As if 50-100 nukes would've made much of a difference about that. Not to mention that Fark was the only alliance towards the end of the war that had a noticeable number of nukes left anyway. So your allies were also out of options since regular fighting was off the table 10 minutes after the first declaration on the first day of war. x)

That's a respectable sentiment

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Welp. Nobody's whining, famalam. SA can nuke us for as long as they wish. And again, Pre had nothing to do with the hit on SA. It's perfectly natural that TEst ended up fighting Alpha / alliances with several former Alpha nations, simply because there's not many upper tier alliances out there, which has always been the case.

Tbh, I didn't expect y'all to do much after several of you built up 12 MAPs to launch nukes and then delayed the chance to let them drop, wasting MAP regen. Thought the whole "wartime activity" thing was a joke. With that being said, nice job on your spy coordination. Nice to see that activity back. It's not fun if you don't fight back. As I said before, I love war. We all should. Why sit around for months doing absolutely nothing? No point in playing the game then imo. Therefore, I thank you guys for continuing to fight after Round 1. Once again, am looking forward to Rounds 2,3,4, etc. TEst is going to have fun and I hope SA does too.

>get nuked 5 times >still do more infra damage to each attacking nation with conventional warfare than they did with nukes Your nuclear "mutual assured destruction" tactic was a failure and a joke, and the bones of the cattle you call your citizens pave the roads to the temples raised to Chaos in the already-forgotten superficial damage your weaklings' toys smeared on my cities. The shrieks of your children echo via loudspeakers throughout my nation as they are sacrificed in torment to feed daemons; such a delightful dirge of agony their lungs make even as they bellow their last breaths through their fear-wracked, pain-torn throats. I thank you for the ease in which you gave up your people to the thresher in which such chaff is rendered into the stuff of devotion to the Dark Gods: the slurry of their souls encapsulated in the very moment their miserable flesh gave way to the enlightenment that is anguish make fine tokens in trade to the Powers of the Warp. Long be your suffering; joyous be your pain.

So we're changing it to a RoH instead of a DoW, because yknow they've attacked us first. This post is sponsored by Zeebrus because she cannot post on the forums anymore.

Short, sweet, simple. TEst and AIM hereby declare peace without terms. Any remaining active wars will go to their conclusion be it expiration, peace, or beige. On a personal note, I have several pleasant conversation with some people in AIM. You guys were good sports. Hope to fight along side of you all sometime in the future. Either that or enjoy the inevitable dogpile on TEst when we end up pissing off enough people in a year. o/ SIGNED FOR AIM MODOK: Dayne Scientist Supreme: Vexz Directors: Bezzers, Zig SIGNED FOR TEST

You're not wrong, honestly. My own reply was to affirm that AIM has good people, whether they decided to bail out of a war inflicted on them or stay in - didn't matter to me. AIM, as an alliance, aren't very dramatic. During the war vs. IQ - I can't recall any moment of drama from any of them in the coalition channel. Hell, I'm in a situation where my own alliance has been at war with TKR and Friends for... over a month and will most likely keep going for an undetermined time. If you stick with your war with TEst, all the best to you folks.

I’ll drop it when you give me this mutually assured destruction nonsense you keep bringing up. You’ve had like 3 or 4 wars delcared since the first wave ended. That’s like 30 missed nuke chances that could have been dropped or in the process of being dropped. It doesn’t seem like your heart is in it. Don’t promise me with a good time and not deliver.

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Radio shows died out years ago. Considering your history, you’d be the last person I’d ask for advice from. That being said, this is a joke show. Any show I’ve seen you host has been just about you regardless of the topic or itinerary at hand. Now that I’m done shitting on you and your show. I hope anyone who has legitimate issues in life doesn’t take what you say seriously and moves on to someone who isn’t a complete piece of shit. Legit. That would be like me having a show teach people how not to be trash or a piece of shit. Lmao