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[Dominicus Victor]

13 minutes ago, Akuryo said:

Oh hey, it's you Victor! Doubt ya remember me, you disappeared rather suddenly from my alliance months ago and i noticed ya jumping to all sorts of various shitholes.

To be frank i'm amazed those poorly run blackholes didn't swallow you up out of this game. Welcome to the owf!

Oh yeah, I was in your AA for a day or two at the beginning of my PnW career. Joined a few shitty places but it’s helped me understand the game better than just camping out in some major AA all game. I’ve led two AAs to the top 50, one was couped and the other is OFA (whole other set of drama). Now I’m in TFP with experience I never would have had I just camped in a major AA. I’ve really been testing the waters of the game. Good to see you actually!

Edited July 28, 2019 by Dominicus Victor

[Adrienne]

It was one slot of one TKR member - the other two slots were filled by your coalition - and that they were going for the treasure was cited in the in-game DoW. This was the only instance of this happening, so between that and them only taking up one slot, your claim that they were trying to aid us is a little odd. It also happened nearly a month ago so if you really felt that strongly about it, it sure took you an awful long time to act on it - after all, your coalition has hit what, five? alliances between this incident and declaring on TFP. So quit being disingenuous - you hit them because you wanted to, not because of a single war from three and a half weeks ago.

[Adrienne]

@Shadowthrone, I'm assuming your downvote on my last post means you disagree with what I'm saying. If you feel I'm wrong here, that treasure buying is slotfilling/a valid CB and your coalition is justified in hitting TFP, I trust you've talked to The Syndicate about them doing it too? If you guys are really sticking to this being the reason, I guess someone should warn @Sisyphus, seeing as they've "aided" our coalition as well by buying a treasure from "slotfilling" TGH and therefore should be next on your coalition's list of alliances to expand to.

[Roquentin]

2 hours ago, Nizam Adrienne said:

@Shadowthrone, I'm assuming your downvote on my last post means you disagree with what I'm saying. If you feel I'm wrong here, that treasure buying is slotfilling/a valid CB and your coalition is justified in hitting TFP, I trust you've talked to The Syndicate about them doing it too? If you guys are really sticking to this being the reason, I guess someone should warn @Sisyphus, seeing as they've "aided" our coalition as well by buying a treasure from "slotfilling" TGH and therefore should be next on your coalition's list of alliances to expand to.

The two situations are apples and oranges. One was TFP filling as we were starting to take down the target. TFP interfering and refusing to coordinate and being overall defiant  while he had other attackers, made the other attackers unable to achieve their objective and they were set back. I sent Alfred  a message point blank that I would interpret it as helping the nation he hit if he navalled when the others were doing airstrikes. It was conveyed to Alfred I would report him and he  chose to be defiant in the face of that warning, and then it was also conveyed that they would not airstrike as a favor to you for intervening in the Arrgh-TFP bank heist as they said they needed permission from you to do that. This was collusion and I made it clear it was to quichwe.  This collusion enabled the initial target to continue and push on. In the tS case, Woodstockia had not been engaged and when I noticed it was happening I approached Leopold about it and we reached an understanding that he'd beige before woodstockia went on the offensive and we didn't try to fill the other two slots until his beige from that expired. He also peaced out a different war on Ockey and Ockey went with an Arrgh guy instead.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Roquentin
Correction re Ockey

[Adrienne]

1 hour ago, Roquentin said:

The two situations are apples and oranges. One was TFP filling as we were starting to take down the target. TFP interfering and refusing to coordinate and being overall defiant  while he had other attackers, made the other attackers unable to achieve their objective and they were set back. I sent Alfred  a message point blank that I would interpret it as helping the nation he hit if he navalled when the others were doing airstrikes. It was conveyed to Alfred I would report him and he  chose to be defiant in the face of that warning, and then it was also conveyed that they would not airstrike as a favor to you for intervening in the Arrgh-TFP bank heist as they said they needed permission from you to do that. This was collusion and I made it clear it was to quichwe.  This collusion enabled the initial target to continue and push on. In the tS case, Woodstockia had not been engaged and when I noticed it was happening I approached Leopold about it and we reached an understanding that he'd beige before woodstockia went on the offensive and we didn't try to fill the other two slots until his beige from that expired. He also peaced out a different war on Ockey and Ockey went with an Arrgh guy instead.

Both TFP and t$ bought treasures from our coalition, filled a slot on a nation on our side, and navaled the entire time. The only differences I see are that you didn't manage to get to Woodstockia before t$ did and that TFP refused to be bullied by your threats of reporting them for slotfilling. They had no obligation to listen to you and chose instead to stick to the typical treasure transfer deal they had agreed upon. That doesn't make it slotfilling, especially since the literal intent of a treasure transfer is to win the war. You calling it that is just you being upset you couldn't force them to coordinate alongside you but if you want to be upset enough over being delayed by a round or two on a single target to declare on the full alliance for it, go for it. Regardless, it's been three and a half weeks and five expansions later, so I'm still not inclined to believe that your reason for the expansion was this and not just looking at TFP's shiny new infra and lack of ties and thinking "oh, hey, this'll be fun."

[Zei-Sakura Alsainn]

Hold on.

You threatened another another player with moderation action. Because he didn't want to do what YOU wanted him too?

How exactly do you tell the people who call you a vile cancer that they're wrong, and then admit that. Moreover, why do you have such a severe case of little man syndrome to resort to that @Roquentin ?

Fun fact for the future. Other units than planes exist. Naval battles are a valid method of winning wars, and your agenda is not the be all and end all of the entire came. Go cry to your goddamn mother if it bothers you, not the admin.

[Roquentin]

3 hours ago, Nizam Adrienne said:

Both TFP and t$ bought treasures from our coalition, filled a slot on a nation on our side, and navaled the entire time. The only differences I see are that you didn't manage to get to Woodstockia before t$ did and that TFP refused to be bullied by your threats of reporting them for slotfilling. They had no obligation to listen to you and chose instead to stick to the typical treasure transfer deal they had agreed upon. That doesn't make it slotfilling, especially since the literal intent of a treasure transfer is to win the war. You calling it that is just you being upset you couldn't force them to coordinate alongside you but if you want to be upset enough over being delayed by a round or two on a single target to declare on the full alliance for it, go for it. Regardless, it's been three and a half weeks and five expansions later, so I'm still not inclined to believe that your reason for the expansion was this and not just looking at TFP's shiny new infra and lack of ties and thinking "oh, hey, this'll be fun."

The tS treasure transfer didn't interfere with our prosecution of an attack on woodstockia. Simple as that. They weren't bullied at all.  They were simply told if I felt they were interfering to our detriment, it would be interpreted as slotfilling by me. Slotfilling is preventing someone else from attacking who would do meaningful damage to the person as far as I'm concerned. Basically we've known all about all the little convos you've had with people about if they comply with your wishes, they'll be safe, so if they felt safe enough to flex on us, it's a problem. It being an  official treasure deal sure as hell is news to me. It was claimed as an independent action at first. TFP was a declared neutral alliance that had pulled out against you. 

 

https://ibb.co/album/mxqETv

Here's the full convo in compact mode. Just so no one can gaslight us on how it went down I saved it in cozy too.

 

2 hours ago, Akuryo said:

Hold on.

You threatened another another player with moderation action. Because he didn't want to do what YOU wanted him too?

How exactly do you tell the people who call you a vile cancer that they're wrong, and then admit that. Moreover, why do you have such a severe case of little man syndrome to resort to that @Roquentin ?

Fun fact for the future. Other units than planes exist. Naval battles are a valid method of winning wars, and your agenda is not the be all and end all of the entire came. Go cry to your goddamn mother if it bothers you, not the admin.

Don't be purposefully obtuse. The player knew his action would interfere with the war effort. He had all the time in the world to do a treasure deal before the nation had started getting attacked after declaring an offensive war on the 3rd. It was all too convenient that he hit within the hour. I could always just declare on anyone  hit and suicide ground battle. Basically people have tried all sorts of tricks to get slotfilled in this war, from hitting uninvolved micros to leaving truces by exiting alliances dangling with no intention to attack, so I'm a drawing line in that I will freely report anything I consider slotfilling.  Not taking a proactive approach when people are making big threats about persecuting alliances permanently and such is dumb. Most of the violations that have gone corrected have only been corrected well after their impact when we waited to report them as Alex isn't always around so being proactive helps nip the issue in the bud rather than waiting for it to become a crisis.

You can also feel free to get ignored from now if you have resort to psychoanalyzing reactions to screwing around. You have no ground to stand on here.  Lmao.

Fun fact for the future is this last part  would entitle to me hit all of your targets and claim to be winning and legit  if I do a successful set of ground battles on a zero ground nation. I would also be able to declare just to beige them out.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Roquentin

[Zei-Sakura Alsainn]

17 minutes ago, Roquentin said:

The tS treasure transfer didn't interfere with our prosecution of an attack on woodstockia. Simple as that. They weren't bullied at all.  They were simply told if I felt they were interfering to our detriment, it would be interpreted as slotfilling by me. Slotfilling is preventing someone else from attacking who would do meaningful damage to the person as far as I'm concerned. Basically we've known all about all the little convos you've had with people about if they comply with your wishes, they'll be safe, so if they felt safe enough to flex on us, it's a problem. It being an  official treasure deal sure as hell is news to me. It was claimed as an independent action at first. TFP was a declared neutral alliance that had pulled out against you. 

 

https://ibb.co/album/mxqETv

Here's the full convo in compact mode. Just so no one can gaslight us on how it went down I saved it in cozy too.

 

Don't be purposefully obtuse. The player knew his action would interfere with the war effort. He had all the time in the world to do a treasure deal before the nation had two slots filled. It was all too convenient that he hit within the hour. I could always just declare on anyone  hit and suicide ground battle. Basically people have tried all sorts of tricks to get slotfilled in this war, from hitting uninvolved micros to leaving truces by exiting alliances dangling with no intention to attack, so I'm a drawing line in that I will freely report anything I consider slotfilling.  Not taking a proactive approach when people are making big threats about persecuting alliances permanently and such is dumb. Most of the violations that have gone corrected have only been corrected well after their impact when we waited to report them as Alex isn't always around so being proactive helps nip the issue in the bud rather than waiting for it to become a crisis.

You can also feel free to get ignored from now if you have resort to psychoanalyzing reactions to screwing around. You have no ground to stand on here.  Lmao.

Fun fact for the future is this last part  would entitle to me hit all of your targets and claim to be winning and legit  if I do a successful set of ground battles on a zero ground nation. I would also be able to declare just to beige them out.

Obstructing your war effort isn't against the rules, sorry hun. You might think you're important to everything because of people like Scarf, but he's just the clingy jealous type, 'fraid to tell ya. 

Which is why your whining that it's some intentional conspiracy just rolls eyes. Everything's a conspiracy to NPO. Scarf is the only person to notably he wants you destroyed and now there's a game wide conspiracy to eliminate you. TFP happened to close a treasure deal around the time you attacked, so it's obviously an EVIL TKR PLOT to defeat IQ once and for all, one war slot fill at a time?

What uninvolved micros? Coal Mines attacked HA, part of our side. That makes them an enemy. Socialist League countered for TCM, they're an enemy too. Only people who've attacked micros en masse are your friends. Complain to them that you find their behavior distasteful.

"You have no ground to stand on" he says while threatening to call the admin because somebody dare not align their priorities with his war goal. Check in a mirror, Roq, you're not that special. Unless you're like me and see people others can't you got nothing to be paranoid over.

Fun fact, slot filling is defined as starting a war with no intention to win or often even attack. When DragonK raided syndi bank before KF, I raided him when t$ countered. They didn't report for slot filling because A) they aren't petulant children and B ) I was aggressively pursuing his defeat, therefore making it not slot filling.

Shockingly, people can do things other than what you or NPO or BK desires and still be within the rules. It's a wonderful, brave New world out there, and that's just one part of it! I'm sure you'll get used to it.

 

PS: I hear even the micros don't care what you think anymore ?

Edited July 30, 2019 by Akuryo

[Roquentin]

11 minutes ago, Akuryo said:

Obstructing your war effort isn't against the rules, sorry hun. You might think you're important to everything because of people like Scarf, but he's just the clingy jealous type, 'fraid to tell ya. 

Which is why your whining that it's some intentional conspiracy just rolls eyes. Everything's a conspiracy to NPO. Scarf is the only person to notably he wants you destroyed and now there's a game wide conspiracy to eliminate you. TFP happened to close a treasure deal around the time you attacked, so it's obviously an EVIL TKR PLOT to defeat IQ once and for all, one war slot fill at a time?

What uninvolved micros? Coal Mines attacked HA, part of our side. That makes them an enemy. Socialist League countered for TCM, they're an enemy too. Only people who've attacked micros en masse are your friends. Complain to them that you find their behavior distasteful.

"You have no ground to stand on" he says while threatening to call the admin because somebody dare not align their priorities with his war goal. Check in a mirror, Roq, you're not that special. Unless you're like me and see people others can't you got nothing to be paranoid over.

Fun fact, slot filling is defined as starting a war with no intention to win or often even attack. When DragonK raided syndi bank before KF, I raided him when t$ countered. They didn't report for slot filling because A) they aren't petulant children and B ) I was aggressively pursuing his defeat, therefore making it not slot filling.

Shockingly, people can do things other than what you or NPO or BK desires and still be within the rules. It's a wonderful, brave New world out there, and that's just one part of it! I'm sure you'll get used to it.

 

PS: I hear even the micros don't care what you think anymore ?

If interfering in alliance wars is totally kosher, then I don't think you're going to want to see the alleys it leads down.

To give a few examples: Code of Honor and Si Hong. Do we really have to go and look at all of the to point out this has been going on?

Again, if messing up alliance wars is legit, then you're going to see a lot of "fun" wars.

I don't know if they specifically have reported it in the past and Alex has canceled wars in some of those bank heist situations.

Well that's their problem I guess. I think the stakes being shown has been effective typically. Either way, it comes with a price.

Edit: Also with this topic, I really hate it since I'm the only one willing on our side to open Microsoft Edge to reply since no one can on chrome.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Roquentin

[Guest Epi]

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[Shiho Nishizumi]

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[Sir Scarfalot]

Roq: Slotfilling is anything that keeps NPO from airstriking what NPO wants to airstrike

Actual slotfilling rules: Declaring wars with no intention to win

By a strict interpretation of the rules, holding off beiging and letting the war expire is against the rules as well, but it's fine because NPO is doing it and they're "doing damage". Winning the war by game definition has nothing to do with the game definition of winning the war as long as it's convenient for NPO.

[Adrienne]

3 hours ago, Roquentin said:

Basically we've known all about all the little convos you've had with people about if they comply with your wishes, they'll be safe, so if they felt safe enough to flex on us, it's a problem. It being an  official treasure deal sure as hell is news to me. It was claimed as an independent action at first. TFP was a declared neutral alliance that had pulled out against you.

And if they don't comply with yours, they won't be?  We made a treasure deal with TFP and that was the only "war interference" they had. If there was anything to actually interfere, it sure as hell would have been a hell of a lot more obvious than a single war against a single nation but countless people couldn't even figure out what you guys were talking about. When Quichwe talked about it being an "independent action", he meant independent of your war, which it was.

While I'll give you that TFP probably should have been more direct that's what was going on, it still shouldn't have been difficult to realize what was going on with the in-game DoW, the fact Dalinar had a treasure on his nation, and Quichwe implying it throughout the chat. They weren't flexing on you, they wanted to be left alone to complete their treasure deal, and two days beige should have been manageable by your coalition. You could have held just fine in your wars and gotten the slot covered when it expired. Instead, you continued to threaten reporting them to Alex for something that was an established part of the meta.

Again though, if you really felt this strongly about it, why didn't you escalate it then? Why wait so long and only after you've escalated against five other alliances? If this was such an offense, surely they ranked higher on your "alliances to drag in" list than House Arryn or Silenzio.

Edited July 31, 2019 by Nizam Adrienne

[Shadowthrone]

4 hours ago, Nizam Adrienne said:

And if they don't comply with yours, they won't be?  We made a treasure deal with TFP and that was the only "war interference" they had. If there was anything to actually interfere, it sure as hell would have been a hell of a lot more obvious than a single war against a single nation but countless people couldn't even figure out what you guys were talking about. When Quichwe talked about it being an "independent action", he meant independent of your war, which it was.

We're in the middle of a war with you folks. If folks get in the way and knowingly interfere and when warned, flexes super hard in the hope that Adrienne/TKR will protect them, we reserve the right to retaliate. 

Dude in the logs p much stated he's not going to negotiate with us unlike tS and hitched his chain onto the TKR wagon. Welp. 

4 hours ago, Nizam Adrienne said:

While I'll give you that TFP probably should have been more direct that's what was going on, it still shouldn't have been difficult to realize what was going on with the in-game DoW, the fact Dalinar had a treasure on his nation, and Quichwe implying it throughout the chat. They weren't flexing on you, they wanted to be left alone to complete their treasure deal, and two days beige should have been manageable by your coalition. You could have held just fine in your wars and gotten the slot covered when it expired. Instead, you continued to threaten reporting them to Alex for something that was an established part of the meta.

Well I mean given that Quichwe p much was, it's a moot point to state TFP wasn't flexing on us. He just thought given that it was round one and the NPO was losing planes, its easier to play aggressive in the view that we would lose the war. Welp, sucks. 

 

4 hours ago, Nizam Adrienne said:

Again though, if you really felt this strongly about it, why didn't you escalate it then? Why wait so long and only after you've escalated against five other alliances? If this was such an offense, surely they ranked higher on your "alliances to drag in" list than House Arryn or Silenzio.

Again if this is the core grouse you have, its funny. We hit them when we were adequately prepared to. I mean that answer is quite straightforward, given that you were MilCom in TKR lol. Nice try tho!

 

PS: I hope Chrome lets me post this attempt #12 at a post.

[Cooper_]

39 minutes ago, Shadowthrone said:

We hit them when we were adequately prepared to

https://imgur.com/a/06gt1GL

Edited July 31, 2019 by Cooper_

[Adrienne]

42 minutes ago, Shadowthrone said:

We're in the middle of a war with you folks. If folks get in the way and knowingly interfere and when warned, flexes super hard in the hope that Adrienne/TKR will protect them, we reserve the right to retaliate. 

Dude in the logs p much stated he's not going to negotiate with us unlike tS and hitched his chain onto the TKR wagon. Welp. 

Well I mean given that Quichwe p much was, it's a moot point to state TFP wasn't flexing on us. He just thought given that it was round one and the NPO was losing planes, its easier to play aggressive in the view that we would lose the war. Welp, sucks. 

Again if this is the core grouse you have, its funny. We hit them when we were adequately prepared to. I mean that answer is quite straightforward, given that you were MilCom in TKR lol. Nice try tho!

Your opening statement to them was literally "do what I say or you're getting reported". Not a request, not a discussion, a demand and yet they're the ones flexing? As far as I'm aware, Quichwe's reaction didn't have anything to do with a belief that we'd come to their rescue, more frustration over your actions. I imagine he responded the way he did because you literally threatened to attempt mod action because of a treasure transfer, a single war with a clear reason that would have had no long-term impact on the war effort. There have been no subsequent wars in the three and a half weeks since it happened so it's pretty obvious the treasure transfer was a one-off thing.

As I've already stated, you're welcome to see that single war as a threat and retaliate. One war makes for a pretty weak CB though so you really shouldn't be surprised when folks call BS on it, especially when your declaration comes after you were "adequately prepared" enough to expand on five other alliances. Seems a little less than straightforward to me but what do I know? As you say, I was only milcom before.

At any rate, I think this conversation is going to continue going in circles, so I think I'll just head to bed and wait for your next downvote. Don't disappoint me ? Have a good night, Keshav.

[Alexio15]

9 hours ago, Roquentin said:

If interfering in alliance wars is totally kosher, then I don't think you're going to want to see the alleys it leads down.

To give a few examples: Code of Honor and Si Hong. Do we really have to go and look at all of the to point out this has been going on?

Again, if messing up alliance wars is legit, then you're going to see a lot of "fun" wars.

I don't know if they specifically have reported it in the past and Alex has canceled wars in some of those bank heist situations.

Well that's their problem I guess. I think the stakes being shown has been effective typically. Either way, it comes with a price.

Edit: Also with this topic, I really hate it since I'm the only one willing on our side to open Microsoft Edge to reply since no one can on chrome.

Urm I'm not sure how I should burst your bubble here but Code of Honor was a Frontier Records Prorecrorate and they joined the war alongside us. They also exited alongside us so the only coalition actively targeting micros is yourside.

[Shadowthrone]

7 hours ago, Nizam Adrienne said:

Your opening statement to them was literally "do what I say or you're getting reported". Not a request, not a discussion, a demand and yet they're the ones flexing? As far as I'm aware, Quichwe's reaction didn't have anything to do with a belief that we'd come to their rescue, more frustration over your actions. I imagine he responded the way he did because you literally threatened to attempt mod action because of a treasure transfer, a single war with a clear reason that would have had no long-term impact on the war effort. There have been no subsequent wars in the three and a half weeks since it happened so it's pretty obvious the treasure transfer was a one-off thing.

As I've already stated, you're welcome to see that single war as a threat and retaliate. One war makes for a pretty weak CB though so you really shouldn't be surprised when folks call BS on it, especially when your declaration comes after you were "adequately prepared" enough to expand on five other alliances. Seems a little less than straightforward to me but what do I know? As you say, I was only milcom before.

At any rate, I think this conversation is going to continue going in circles, so I think I'll just head to bed and wait for your next downvote. Don't disappoint me ? Have a good night, Keshav.

I mean a single beige when we were struggling to hold down tiers is a shit move. A refusal to negotiate and to tell us Mama Adrienne wouldn’t be happy if they negotiated with us, was pointed out as problematic by Roq then. That it took us a while to hit them, comes from their tiering and our own objectives being met before any major expansion. TFP was 60+ nations, until we were certain that the logistics and the ability to keep them down was met, one did not expand lol. 

 

I mean I’m all for your gotcha posts, but it’s silly, we pointed out how it’s not cool to collude without TKR and flex over it. He then descended to being a douche about it, quite a straightforward CB. If you’re neutral you work with both sides to find a proper solution to interference. Hiding behind TKR and hoping that given the situation at that point, that he could try to flex his way out of the situation was noted and his alliance was hit for his actions. 

I aim to never disappoint  

[Buorhann]

>do what we say or we will report

Thats probably the most petty fricking thing ever stated in this game.

[Pasky Darkfire]

"Adequately Prepared"

[Zei-Sakura Alsainn]

1 hour ago, Shadowthrone said:

I mean a single beige when we were struggling to hold down tiers is a shit move. A refusal to negotiate and to tell us Mama Adrienne wouldn’t be happy if they negotiated with us, was pointed out as problematic by Roq then. That it took us a while to hit them, comes from their tiering and our own objectives being met before any major expansion. TFP was 60+ nations, until we were certain that the logistics and the ability to keep them down was met, one did not expand lol. 

 

I mean I’m all for your gotcha posts, but it’s silly, we pointed out how it’s not cool to collude without TKR and flex over it. He then descended to being a douche about it, quite a straightforward CB. If you’re neutral you work with both sides to find a proper solution to interference. Hiding behind TKR and hoping that given the situation at that point, that he could try to flex his way out of the situation was noted and his alliance was hit for his actions. 

I aim to never disappoint  

Wow, you mean someone acted unpleasant towards you after you behaved like whiny petulant children demanding conformity or you'd cry to Alex that the other kids are CLEARLY trying to kill NPO?

Piss off. I'm rarely a give the benefit of the doubt person, but as @Dio Brando can vouch I didn't go off the deep end like Scarf or others and assume you're a vile cancer to be removed. "NPO'S just a little paranoid" I said. So am I but I keep it to myself.

If this how you lot behave, weaponizing moderation because you're so pathetic, then you are rapidly changing alot more minds than me.

 

@Alex you need to take some rule advice from nationstates, they've got some pretty good ones. One is called "Mods as a weapon", basically using the threat of moderation action to make someone concede a point, or behave a certain way is against the rules. It should be here, arguably FAR MORESO than it is needed over there.

Hire or find volunteer mods to do it if you need to. I understand you don't trust players to do it because bias, but I think you'll find most people listen to money.

 

Edited July 31, 2019 by Akuryo

[Spaceman Thrax]

1 hour ago, Shadowthrone said:

He then descended to being a douche about it, quite a straightforward CB.

"Being a douche is a valid CB" - Shadowthrone without a hint of irony, 2019.

 

(also it's not being a douche to tell rude people who groundlessly threaten you with mod action over a treasure transfer to buzz off. :P)

[Shadowthrone]

1 minute ago, Akuryo said:

Wow, you mean acted unpleasant towards you after you behaved like whiny petulant children demanding conformity or you'd cry to Alex that the other kids are CLEARLY trying to kill NPO?

Piss off. I'm rarely a give the benefit of the doubt person, but as @Dio Brando can vouch I didn't go off the deep end like Scarf or others and assume you're a vile cancer to be removed.

If this how you lot behave, weaponizing moderation because you're so pathetic, then you are rapidly changing alot more minds than me.

 

@Alex you need to take some rule advice from nationstates, they've got some pretty good ones. One is called "Mods as a weapon", basically using the threat of moderation action to make someone concede a point, or behave a certain way is against the rules. It should be here, arguably FAR MORESO than it is needed over there.

Hire or find volunteer mods to do it if you need to. I understand you don't trust players to do it because bias, but I think you'll find most people listen to money.

 

 

I mean given that folks were declaring wars all around the place with the intention of eating beiges and doing nothing and given that we were focusing on IC and having TFP take up the third slot within the hour of our hits, you can see why we believed it was most likely a means to an easy beige. The meta is fricked, and we took it up with the appropriate authorities. If Sphinx's nation strike is valid, we applied the same definition here. It is up to Alex to decide ofc, and it is his prerogative ?‍♀️

Roq explained why he believed it was a slot fill and why he had Alex check the war out. But its okay when y'all complain to Alex, just not us! Got it. 

Just now, Spaceman Thrax said:

"Being a douche is a valid CB" - Shadowthrone without a hint of irony, 2019.

 

(also it's not being a douche to tell rude people who groundlessly threaten you with mod action over a treasure transfer to buzz off. :P)

Flexing hard and working with TKR in the hope that they'd protect you is a valid CB  Being a douche is an added bonus  

[Edward I]

33 minutes ago, Spaceman Thrax said:

"Being a douche is a valid CB" - Shadowthrone without a hint of irony, 2019.

 

(also it's not being a douche to tell rude people who groundlessly threaten you with mod action over a treasure transfer to buzz off. :P)

When has "we are annoyed with you about something you did" not been valid CB?

If it makes you happy, I suppose we could say all our future wars are solely motivated by boredom.