Administrators Popular Post Alex Posted August 8, 2018 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 I suppose I might as well jump in here- This was a particularly difficult decision where I had to weigh protecting the anonymity of one player, who placed a bounty, and what I perceived to be as chronic racial harassment of another player. You are free to criticize my decision, as many of you are, but you are obviously not privy to the same level of information that I am. I've been doing this for long enough now that I've had many people try to use their position as donators to buy influence in-game, try to outright bribe me, etc. and I've prided myself by not accepting literally thousands of dollars to help players succeed in the game "under the table." I bring this up, because similarly I pride myself in being transparent, not taking sides in player disputes, etc. I think that I tend to do very well at that, particularly through apathy. I don't care or even follow the various alliances, coalitions, and wars that happen at this point. There was a time when the game was smaller and a larger part of my life that I did know who all the big alliances and leaders were, but we're past that point now. So if anyone thinks that I am taking sides in any particular situation, just know that I don't care enough to do so. Now this one particular instance, the only instance I've ever revealed a player's anonymous bounty, was in hindsight a mistake. I did not do it with any intention of playing favorites, contributing to in-game politics, etc. but only as one person sympathetic to another being harassed for no reason other than being black. Racism is wrong, and I did punish Thalmor and threaten to ban him if it ever happened again, and that was not part of the mistake. The mistake was, of course, succumbing to my sympathy for another's unjust harassment and letting that weigh more in my mind than transparency, objectivity, and all of the other qualities that make a good admin. So yes, I obviously screwed up here, you're right to criticize me. I'll do my best to go back to administrating through apathy, which imo is fair for everyone. But for the sake of transparency, and hopefully to build a little trust and ensure you that this was a one time thing, and that I really don't care who puts a bounty on who for whatever reason so long as it's within the rules, I will include logs of my conversation with Queen M. It should be apparent by reading them that I did not expect divulging this one bit of information would result in anything further. Of course I was wrong, and it was wrong to entrust a player with this information with the first place, but I'm just hoping you can see where I'm coming from and that at least I think my heart was in the right place. So tl;dr I'm sorry, you're right to criticize me This is the only time it's happened before (or since) and I have no intention of doing it again I have obviously learned from my mistake here not to entrust sensitive information to a player I don't care enough about your in-game politics to want to influence it or take sides or whatever What's done is done and I can't go back and undo it, however, I am hoping that by being open and transparent we can all move on from here EDIT: For extreme clarity, I will again reiterate that this was a one time thing, there have not been other instances of this, and going forward I will NOT breach player anonymity such as in this case (short of a court order, of course) 30 1 Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 >this is for my own personal knowledge and won't be addressed >I'm not going to start a war over this Woo boy. She took you for a ride, Sheepy. Lesson learned, I hope. 1 14 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted August 8, 2018 Administrators Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Lesson learned, I hope. Yes, believe me that there's nothing more than I like to not have a bunch of angry players sending me DMs and stirring up things on the forums. You can believe me when I say I won't do it again because it very much aligns with my self-interest in minimizing moderation work. 4 Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) And just for the sake of clarity here, a couple of screenshots and the initial terms given to us (They've changed since. Now TRF wants a flag pissing on KT's flag, or some similar edgy story): "Not a lot, if any, room for negotiation on these. We think they're pretty straightforward and reasonable. 1. Public Admission of Defeat and Apologies (first vetted by us)- Thalmor: for posting the bounty on Queenie - Buorhann: for his behavior towards Queenie, for not reigning in his alliance (read: Rickky), and for trying to interfere in TCW FA 2. The name of the leakers for the OWF log of the TKR slack chat/war update forum post and the Kayser goodbye post (with accompanying proof) 3. KT has to change their in-game flag to the TRF war flag for one month and TGH to a flag of Felkey's design, also for one month" Just showing that the information was clearly used for war. I mean, even Pre linked the thread that clearly calls Thalmor out too. Don't worry, TKR will be enforcing your demands, TRF. The high gov was well aware of what was going on. It's ok. You're "not allies", but you're "coalition allies", so they're obligated I guess. Edited August 8, 2018 by Buorhann 3 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefonteen Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 Oh yikes. This makes you look just a tad shitty, TRF. @Alex good on you for admitting to a mistake, being transparent about it and addressing it. Mistakes happen. I hope the affected parties will let it be from here. 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Lol Queen M was disappointed it was Thalmor. Who was she really trying to catch? Also she lied to Alex and took advantage of him. Looks like not only Thalmor was the victim of privacy breach, but now Alex was manipulated. Can anyone stop Stalin? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Horsecock Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 3:34 PM, Django Jane said: @Nite Owl @Honey Monster @Inanimate Carbon Rod@Alice Abernathy @Alex Please lock this thread. So, you twist the admin's arm into giving you information you shouldn't have, lie to him about your intentions, and then use the information as a CB against the entire alliance of the offending player. And when your duplicity is threatened to be revealed, you AGAIN try to have moderators interfere on your behalf to shut down a discussion thread to cover your own ass. Well played. 1 21 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I didn’t lie. I did not and never have lied because I already see where this is going and I’m not going to let this story be told without my input because that’s how lies and false narratives get started. I told Alex that I would not tell and I would not start a war over what he told me. I did neither. The only person I told was Durmij. To the best of my knowledge, this came about because Thalmor told everyone. After he let the cat out of the bag, I thought it was public knowledge and that he’d step up so we could squash it and move on. Cowardice will never cease. As for me starting this war? No, I did not. It doesn’t logistically make sense for me, fresh off a merger with messy nations, to initiate anything. We were invited, we accepted, and we did. Why? We wanted to hit KT since forever but the timing was never right. Not a secret. Opportunity knocked. I made the mistake of trying to be cute on the forums but I now know that’s only for the seasoned shitposters. My bad. I can’t keep up with what counts for a valid cb these days with you guys. I did nothing wrong and have nothing to apologize for, full stop. I don’t think Alex had anything to apologize for, either, but you guys pay his bills so makes sense he’s respond to the tears being poured over this. >Mad at Alex for violating anonymity behind something hateful >Not caring what was hateful was done in the first place >Assuming I have the juice to rope TKR and TCW into a vengeance campaign >Everyone pretending Thalmor is ”edgy” when this isn’t the first time, folks. Be real and quit with the amnesia shit. >Thinking I need to be shamed or embarrassed into a white peace because of bs e-lawyering and butthurtedness over pixels. I lied to no one. I did nothing wrong. The Revolutionary Front did nothing wrong. If you think otherwise, happy to agree to disagree, but you’d be wrong. My PR in this game doesn’t mean as much as it does to a lot of you and I value the TRUTH more than anything else. Honor and honesty always. Say what you want but calling me a liar is a dog that don’t hunt. This is sore losing on 100. 1 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buorhann said: -snip- There is indeed absolutely no room to negotiate; TKR, TRF, and TCW must give a public admission of wrongdoing and apologies for Queen M's behavior and for their support of it. This is entirely beyond ridiculous; they deliberately lied to the admin with the intention of using game moderation as a weapon... and they weren't even hoping to use this against Thalmor anyway? Making demands and saying that they're inflexible, and then changing them due to pressure, well that just proves that their position is weak and it costs them their credibility. 22 minutes ago, Django Jane said: I didn’t lie. I did not and never have lied because I already see where this is going and I’m not going to let this story be told without my input because that’s how lies and false narratives get started. I told Alex that I would not tell and I would not start a war over what he told me. I did neither. The only person I told was Durmij. To the best of my knowledge, this came about because Thalmor told everyone. After he let the cat out of the bag, I thought it was public knowledge and that he’d step up so we could squash it and move on. Cowardice will never cease. As for me starting this war? No, I did not. It doesn’t logistically make sense for me, fresh off a merger with messy nations, to initiate anything. We were invited, we accepted, and we did. Why? We wanted to hit KT since forever but the timing was never right. Not a secret. Opportunity knocked. I made the mistake of trying to be cute on the forums but I now know that’s only for the seasoned shitposters. My bad. I can’t keep up with what counts for a valid cb these days with you guys. I did nothing wrong and have nothing to apologize for, full stop. I don’t think Alex had anything to apologize for, either, but you guys pay his bills so makes sense he’s respond to the tears being poured over this. >Mad at Alex for violating anonymity behind something hateful >Not caring what was hateful was done in the first place >Assuming I have the juice to rope TKR and TCW into a vengeance campaign >Everyone pretending Thalmor is ”edgy” when this isn’t the first time, folks. Be real and quit with the amnesia shit. >Thinking I need to be shamed or embarrassed into a white peace because of bs e-lawyering and butthurtedness over pixels. I lied to no one. I did nothing wrong. The Revolutionary Front did nothing wrong. If you think otherwise, happy to agree to disagree, but you’d be wrong. My PR in this game doesn’t mean as much as it does to a lot of you and I value the TRUTH more than anything else. Honor and honesty always. Say what you want but calling me a liar is a dog that don’t hunt. This is sore losing on 100. >"That means my gotcha is gone" >"Ruined my f**ing plans" >Literally using it as your CB Stop lying. Even right there in your own post, you say that you didn't tell anyone... except Durmij, which means you lied to Sheepy if nothing else. Now, this whole thing is OOC drama and should be left as such, so you should absolutely apologize regardless of any relationship this may or may not have to the war. Rather, you should be embarassed into a white peace because you freaking fail at war and are getting rekt. Sore losing/100 indeed. Edited August 8, 2018 by Sir Scarfalot smh autocensoring isn't letting me quote accurately 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aksel Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Django Jane said: 1. I didn’t lie. 2. I told Alex that I would not tell and I would not start a war over what he told me. 3. I did neither. 4. The only person I told was Durmij. 5. As for me starting this war? No, I did not. It doesn’t logistically make sense for me, fresh off a merger with messy nations, to initiate anything. We were invited, we accepted No, you definitely did. You kinda....did. (If you recall it was named "We know what Thalmor Did" - its your actual DoW) You did, both. That's one spot you did it, the second? See my #2. Logically you have no logic, is what you just said there. Queen I've never really had an issue with you, never ever. OOC we obviously have opinions where we don't see eye to eye, but - you're stretching. Both sides involved in this OOC banter and the action of thalmor has been disgusting, watching you guys go back and forth in this bambling pool of piss and shit has been not only cancerous but just plain sad. Fact of the matter is, no matter what way you try to spin a story - your war declaration, in and of itself is a shout out to what thalmor did, meaning that you did in fact lie to alex. One thing that pisses me off more than anything is abuse of moderation and admin in this game. Alex DID deserve to apologize to this community and I'm glad he did. Alex now deserves an apology from you. Just disgraceful. all of you. ugh 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted August 8, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, Django Jane said: My PR in this game doesn’t mean as much as it does to a lot of you and I value the TRUTH more than anything else. Honor and honesty always. Say what you want but calling me a liar is a dog that don’t hunt I believe I AM the truth and the light. I exposed this and brought integrity back into the game. also my PR means nothing. Look at all the scandals I've gone through. Shifty can literally get away with anything. I am Richard Nixon with plot armor. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuppyCakeYums Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: Stop lying. Even right there in your own post, you say that you didn't tell anyone... except Durmij, which means you lied to Sheepy if nothing else. Now, this whole thing is OOC drama and should be left as such, so you should absolutely apologize regardless of any relationship this may or may not have to the war. Rather, you should be embarassed into a white peace because you freaking fail at war and are getting rekt. Sore losing/100 indeed. I thought demanding/requesting apologies isn't supposed to be done because you'll get a fake af one? Also i dont know how to put a thinking emoji in here but I would definitely use it at the end of that question so you get this instead. Quote Dorky Weeb Two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, CuppyCakeYums said: I thought demanding/requesting apologies isn't supposed to be done because you'll get a fake af one? Huh? I didn't request or demand an apology. Are you using my words to counter Scarfalot or something? 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuppyCakeYums Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Buorhann said: Huh? I didn't request or demand an apology. Are you using my words to counter Scarfalot or something? Just a question, thats all 1 Quote Dorky Weeb Two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joel James Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 Hey guys, maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. I mean, the way I see it Queen M managed to get at least some of us to do the impossible: Side with Sheepy when he technically messed something up. That takes skill of truly monumental proportions. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Joel James said: Hey guys, maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. I mean, the way I see it Queen M managed to get at least some of us to do the impossible: Side with Sheepy when he technically messed something up. That takes skill of truly monumental proportions. Queen M herself-TRF Cuppy-TCW and now Joel-Silenzio TKR is really trying to bring in their better posters to turn this around. We've got 'em now. No retreat, no surrender. Thalmor demands justice. Alex demands trust. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Django Jane said: I didn’t lie. I did not and never have lied because I already see where this is going and I’m not going to let this story be told without my input because that’s how lies and false narratives get started. I told Alex that I would not tell and I would not start a war over what he told me. I did neither. The only person I told was Durmij. To the best of my knowledge, this came about because Thalmor told everyone. After he let the cat out of the bag, I thought it was public knowledge and that he’d step up so we could squash it and move on. Cowardice will never cease. As for me starting this war? No, I did not. It doesn’t logistically make sense for me, fresh off a merger with messy nations, to initiate anything. We were invited, we accepted, and we did. Why? We wanted to hit KT since forever but the timing was never right. Not a secret. Opportunity knocked. I made the mistake of trying to be cute on the forums but I now know that’s only for the seasoned shitposters. My bad. I can’t keep up with what counts for a valid cb these days with you guys. I did nothing wrong and have nothing to apologize for, full stop. I don’t think Alex had anything to apologize for, either, but you guys pay his bills so makes sense he’s respond to the tears being poured over this. >Mad at Alex for violating anonymity behind something hateful >Not caring what was hateful was done in the first place >Assuming I have the juice to rope TKR and TCW into a vengeance campaign >Everyone pretending Thalmor is ”edgy” when this isn’t the first time, folks. Be real and quit with the amnesia shit. >Thinking I need to be shamed or embarrassed into a white peace because of bs e-lawyering and butthurtedness over pixels. I lied to no one. I did nothing wrong. The Revolutionary Front did nothing wrong. If you think otherwise, happy to agree to disagree, but you’d be wrong. My PR in this game doesn’t mean as much as it does to a lot of you and I value the TRUTH more than anything else. Honor and honesty always. Say what you want but calling me a liar is a dog that don’t hunt. This is sore losing on 100. Uh, yeahh all of this is wrong. You're just a manipulative liar full of shit now revealed with evidence from the admin himself. I've said this before, but never quite so directly to TKR, so i'm going to do so now. TKR, just peace out. Nono, not with the whole coalition. Of all 3 of you, your terms are the most easily agreeable, and if i'm not mistaken, TCW has dropped the apology nonsense to. So both of you, just punch out on this. This entire war started as a laughable shitstorm and has only turned itself into a diabolically embarrassing and absolutely asinine shitticane. There's no debate anymore, frankly there never was. It was always wrong for Alex to do it, and even Alex knows that, and says that. It was wrong of Queen M to ask, it was wrong of her to promise to Alex that it would be used beyond just personal knowledge, and then use it to start a war, shitting in the hand of someone who did them a favor they clearly did not and do not deserve, and now, after Alex has admitted and provided evidence that from his POV he was trying to give somebody peace mind who claims (haven't seen any proof) to have been getting attacked for months, and now lies about it. As if there were still any question or debate left to it. In the end, it all comes back to people like Queen M being no better than the demons they raise swords to, because they are the reason the demons exist at all to begin with, and this is ignoring that they blindly ascribe the labeling of such to any who disagree regardless of context or fact. These are the people who start trouble everywhere they go, because they will make demons of anything. What makes them worse than people in PW who i KNOW are racists, actual racists, who prefer white over others, is that there is less of the racists, and more of the psychotic communists who screech about fascism and nazis, without ever realizing the difference between them is a thin red line. Especially nazism, which funnily enough, is actually a left-wing political structure, considering Right and Left is supposed to be about economics, not social crap, and nazism was socialism that preferred nationalism instead of globalism. Think about that TRF, the only difference between the ideology of yourselves and the Nazis is an opinion on globalism. Cause yah both sure as hell got no problem paintin anyone you want to look like Satan and then go after them. Hammer and sickle or swastika, pick one to wear, it makes no difference to me, they might as well be fraternal twins. So, TKR. TCW. Just slide on out. You made your point, racism is bad and gets you smashed. Now make the counterpoint, being a vile, manipulative demon whose just a different brand and bottle of awful to those racists, also gets you smashed. What's the big loss for you if you do it anyway? "Oh, that sets a precedent we abandoned an ally!" You mean one so incompetently run it's the only alliance on your side in the red, and that it's getting out performed ET, which is, gosh what is it, like 30% inactives or something? Let's not even get started on the wonderful stories i've heard about TRF's internals that suggest to me Queenie has little actual power or control, or spine for that matter. Which is interesting, she has plenty to swing on shitposters, but none to swing on people who say equally terrible shit, but, unlike the shitposters of TGH, IN TRF, THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT. Maybe this is just me, but id prefer to stand next to a shitposter whose trying to be as edgy as possible for 'dank memes' as opposed to an actual modern day 'progressive' of the kind seen in TRF. I feel safer with the former, if only because they're less likely to dress in all black, cover their faces, and assault me because i am not the color they want, or because i think they're a bunch of middle class morons obstructing me from getting to my working-class job. That's enough of my ranting, but please, consider the idea of leaving them to die and have their bones ground into more sand for my California beaches, just like you've done to KT and TGH. We could always use more sand. 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuppyCakeYums Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, ⚡ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™??? said: Queen M herself-TRF Cuppy-TCW and now Joel-Silenzio TKR is really trying to bring in their better posters to turn this around. We've got 'em now. No retreat, no surrender. Thalmor demands justice. Alex demands trust. I barely post though and still cant find the thinking emoji so I cant be a better poster :c Quote Dorky Weeb Two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ⚡ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™??? said: I believe I AM the truth and the light. I exposed this and brought integrity back into the game. also my PR means nothing. Look at all the scandals I've gone through. Shifty can literally get away with anything. I am Richard Nixon with plot armor. also those notifications are getting reeeeal tiresome 15 minutes ago, CuppyCakeYums said: I thought demanding/requesting apologies isn't supposed to be done because you'll get a fake af one? Also i dont know how to put a thinking emoji in here but I would definitely use it at the end of that question so you get this instead. You're right, but TKW and TRK and TCF have been demanding an apology for perceived OOC misbehavior so it's only fair to hold them to their own standards. (Also you can just google a picture of thinking emoji and put it in, it'd work just as well. Cute platypus tho. Here's a link to one that you can hotlink, but there's a ton more. Be careful, a lot of them seem to be weird about "get image location" and gave me complete garbage when I tried...) https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1061/1924/files/Thinking_Face_Emoji.png?9898922749706957214 Edited August 8, 2018 by Sir Scarfalot emote 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justin076 Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 "Tell me, this is for personal knowledge only." "I will not start a war over this" 8 Quote Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel James Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ⚡ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™??? said: Queen M herself-TRF Cuppy-TCW and now Joel-Silenzio TKR is really trying to bring in their better posters to turn this around. We've got 'em now. No retreat, no surrender. Thalmor demands justice. Alex demands trust. Silly Shifty, you think I'm active enough or care enough to play politics. No, I just see someone who was screwed over by a !@#$ who played the victim card. Yes, it sucked that she was the target of such racism, but she rapidly eroded any sympathy by doing what she did. My sympathies to Sheepy. It must have sucked to see your good deed backfire as such, even if it was poorly thought out. EDIT: Also, thank you for pointing out that I am part of SIlenzio! Usually I am (understandably) overshadowed by Strum and Psweet! Edited August 8, 2018 by Joel James 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuppyCakeYums Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: (Also you can just google a picture of thinking emoji and put it in, it'd work just as well. Cute platypus tho.) Thank you! I like animals too! Also, to me it wouldnt feel the same if i googled a picture of the emoji ? Edited August 8, 2018 by CuppyCakeYums spelling 1 Quote Dorky Weeb Two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: That's wonderful. Saved and now following. Remember to mail or post all fan comments, letters, and memes @therealShiftyStranger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lairah said: You mean one so incompetently run it's the only alliance on your side in the red, and that it's getting out performed ET To be fair, everybody is getting outperformed by ET, including KT. Go figure. As for being the only alliance on their side in the red, we expect to see TCW flipping to negative net damage within a couple of weeks at the outside. TRF is still over -1.5bn net damage though. TKR is the only one that's really got a backlog of net damage from the early rounds for us to chew through, that'll take longer. Possibly a couple of months, but our net damage has been accelerating every round since about round 3 by our metrics. Also holy wall of text batman Edited August 8, 2018 by Sir Scarfalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: To be fair, everybody is getting outperformed by ET, including KT. Go figure. As for being the only alliance on their side in the red, we expect to see TCW flipping to negative net damage within a couple of weeks at the outside. TRF is still over -1.5bn net damage though. TKR is the only one that's really got a backlog of net damage from the early rounds for us to chew through, that'll take longer. Possibly a couple of months, but our net damage has been accelerating every round since about round 3 by our metrics. Also holy wall of text batman Here's hoping the people its meant for read it instead of skimming. Also that i don't get some kind of crap for being high gov of a TKR protectorate and being so 'bold and brash' towards an """"""""ally""""""" or whatever you wanna call it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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