Honey Monster

Clubs are live! Just click the club tab up top or on the sidebar and you're set to making your own club OR joining an existing one. here are some basic rules as promised. Inappropriate Imagery Porn/Nudes/Shock Images - common sense. If you're mom didn't want you looking at it as a kid, it shouldn't be here. Terrorism Groups If you support terrorists of any type, from any year/time, you're going to have a bad time. Don't do it. Nazi Groups Groups that represent nazis and support nazis will not be allowed. Feel free to talk about them in discussion, but we aren't about to make a new reich here on the PW forums. Hate Speech! There is a think line here, most opinions today are considered 'hate speech' - discussion is a discussion, but blatantly hating on a person or a group is gonna be against the rules. Best thing to do, make a closed club and select your audience. Common Sense If you're creating a club, you are auto-agreeing to the common sense rule. Keep it chill, don't do anything that would normally be considered wrong in the public or in front of jesus/santa/or whatever you consider to be held to high standards. Have Fun With it This is a new thing for the community, have fun and make it creative.

The idea for clubs are for members to kinda build their own audience and discuss what they want with the people that also like that specific topic. So, here are some more 'relaxed' rules for you all: (note, these rules are only for clubs) Inappropriate Imagery Porn/Nudes/Shock Images - common sense. If you're mom didn't want you looking at it as a kid, it shouldn't be here. Terrorism Groups If you support terrorists of any type, from any year/time, you're going to have a bad time. Don't do it. Nazi Groups Groups that represent nazis and support nazis will not be allowed. Feel free to talk about them in discussion, but we aren't about to make a new reich here on the PW forums. Hate Speech! There is a think line here, most opinions today are considered 'hate speech' - discussion is a discussion, but blatantly hating on a person or a group is gonna be against the rules. Best thing to do, make a closed club and select your audience. Common Sense If you're creating a club, you are auto-agreeing to the common sense rule. Keep it chill, don't do anything that would normally be considered wrong in the public or in front of jesus/santa/or whatever you consider to be held to high standards. Have Fun With it This is a new thing for the community, have fun and make it creative.

Hey y'all - I made a Test Club for y'all to check out. Go to it, its joinable and just mess around with some stuff. If you want some admin to see what its like, just give me a shout. I think it could be a good idea for niche groups, I'd personally join the gun group. Additionally, we can edit 'fields' that are required or not-required (but present) upon creating an alliance. You can see this field display in the header of the club. If you have ideas of what these fields should be, also - give me a shout. I'm moving forward with this as I think its a good idea and allows a bit more freedom for members while protecting the individuals that well... you know.

I am currently talking with the other mods on rules for these clubs. I have proposed a generalized rule list that is your common sense - no terrorism, pornography, nudes, - kinda like that common sense stuff that people shouldn't engage in. I believe the club admin should be able to make their own ruleset for their club. I will update y'all.

I wouldn't personally see an issue with private/closed - as the idea would be to build depth within the community. I'm not sure exactly how it would work, but personally I would like it if say someone requested a club - then we could just open it up for you and allow you to manage it - I believe it allows you to just work within your own bubble per se. I am personally not against watering down rules for clubs - I see it as a great way to allow members to portray themselves without being attacked by those that might not agree with them 100% - obviously, lets not go starting hate groups and terror cells, but you get what I mean. If I make a far right group I'd expect to maintain those right beliefs without being talked to or having my ideas misconstrued - simply because those in my club will obviously be within the same realm. I could go on and on - my personal feeling on mods going into those clubs would be just general upkeep and for more serious notes like pornography, terrorist related stuff, and OBVIOUS inappropriate behavior. I personally like the idea of clubs because I believe the forums should have that clean - 'this is a family restaurant please don't get wasted and hit on the moms/try to recruit people to the 8th reich' - feel to them. This allows people to kinda chill in their own bubble within their own crowd. With controlled access, I don't see why rules could be relaxed.

Community, We have been looking over a new feature and were curious about getting some input from y'all - this new feature is Clubs! Clubs basically allow you to create a little sub community of people that might share the same interests as you from within the forums. There can be an admin group within the club, private, closed, public - all that fun stuff. You can read some more details about it here on the IPS website, which shows some screenshots and explains how they can be used. We had some ideas for clubs, one of which being a club that is public for new nations/members to be paired up with experienced players and receive some tips and guidance without necessarily being on the alliance track. However, we thought it would be best to bring this to the community and see what y'all thought. So, what would you use a club for? What types of clubs do you think we should open up? or Are clubs necessary? Would anyone actually utilize the feature?

Thank you for your report - I'd say Alex will be around soon, but that nation no longer exists.

The work is great, good work, keep up the work good work, great work!

@Sketchy Thanks for bringing that up - maybe the use of 'we believed' is in the wrong context here. The course of action was, review the report, review the post, determine it was against the rules and provide the justification. That justification, at the time, was that this was a violation. After this was determined, I issued the warn points this did cause a 48 hour no-posting ban on the forums for Shifty and right after I received a DM from shifty where we did discuss the points, discussed the satire, discussed the joke. Within that conversation I explained our process - at that time we agreed to keep the warn and we would discuss this publicly so that it would be transparent. Here we are. After discussing this issue with the moderation team we have decided to revoke the warn and the points given to Shifty. On behalf of the moderation team, I apologize for the confusion Shifty. In the future, we will reach out to what might confuse us or make us believe something is incorrect or wrong. We are humans and we make mistakes. Thanks y'all.

OP & Everyone, One of the biggest things we have trouble dealing with as moderators is, is this wrong, is this a joke, or is this right? Clearly, within our rules it states that someone can talk about nazi stuff as long as they are not promoting it. Unfortunately, we believed that you were representing yourself as a nazi in a way that didn't prove to be satire. We aren't not always inside the 'joke' when it comes to reading threads and we don't always know what exactly happens outside of the PW forums that gets brought into our house - in that case there is a little bit of a wall of knowledge so to speak. In this instance, I believe we made a correct decision based on our knowledge, therefore a just warn. - but if you were to bring that up to us post-warn we could have removed those warns for the satire that you have proved it to be. Points are still there, but we can discuss a removal of points if that tickles your fancy. Racism, Sexism, and other topics have been pretty heated as of late. Most likely due to society changes across the world and as such we try to keep up with those changes and learn where exactly to draw the line. I just recently posted to moderators and alex about the line and where to draw it, its tough - but we do try and do our best with reports sent into us. Before you jump on the moderation team, just be aware that we do attempt to look at situations in all angles and we try to reach out to the community when we have questions on a number of reports, to understand positions and why that was posted. If you have further questions, feel free to post here or shoot me a DM.

I am not sure what you were doing - I copied the link from the img source, pasted it into your sig box and was able to get it to pop up. Don't put image tags on it or anything and maybe there was a slight issue with your page refresh. Sometimes these boxes will mess up and go from an html to a regular rich text convert and get shitty.

Let me check into this for you broski - I'll see whats up with it.

Alex will be along shortly to check this out.

Hey y'all, During my moderations I noticed this whole forum was set up to be a question forum - being that it is a market and given its history of not a QA forum, I switched it back to discussion. I know some of these forums switched to QA with the update a while back - must have missed this one. Should be a little easier to use and navigate. Thanks!

Player Name: shifty Length of Suspension: 48 hours Determined to be an unjust warn.