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The only thing BK did was show how stubborn they are in a war.  Same along with NPO.  durmij wasn't entirely wrong.

You guys should've been able to put away Rose/Pantheon/Syndicate's mid-low tier nations, but you didn't.

Fact of the matter is, BK took more damage than what they dealt, and you guys still sold shit off to avoid the stats being inflated (Or resources being wasted, either or).

 

In any case, BK shouldn't be up there for Best Military, but really - a lot of options shouldn't be up there to begin with.  So it's whatever.

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1 hour ago, Ripper said:

"Others didn't apologize! Why would I?"

Because, supposedly, you are not the same with the bad guys you criticize? Or are you?

Maybe you are.

It's awards voting. I don't remember anyone treating it as sacred and inviolable up until this point. This about face on taking them super seriously and not expecting homerism is just out of nowhere. I'll be honest it's clear you're invested in the OWF community and the dedication is appreciated, but this is such an odd hill to stand on.

 

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57 minutes ago, Roquentin said:

I don't think anyone in BK would say they're objectively the best military in the game though they could argue having the highest damage total in a war would make a case for it albeit a flawed one. The awards have always been dominated by some alliances and the idea is to change it up by contesting them actively. The traditional outcomes leaned to some alliances  as usually anyone not on the Syndisphere/EMC didn't really partake it so the results were always going to be slanted towards certain alliances. It also shows the absurdity of the awards in the first place and the problems that arise when people market themselves accordingly like "Most Honorable" and have it endorsed by an in-game award. If BK somehow pulls out a win and proclaims they are the best military to every new player, then it'd be an example of hubris. I wouldn't say the voting in this category is an expression of overconfidence in certain outcomes.  No one in BK as far as I know believes they're on top and can take on the world.

BK objectively has the best military.

Fite me.

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35 minutes ago, Ripper said:

Ok, I get it. Defeatism is not just a thing you have in global wars. It's a part of every aspect of your P&W life. Even when it comes to community awards. xD

If you are against a specific tactic, you can denounce it and work towards tackling it. But this takes more effort that complaining and just trolling around, doesn't it?

Keep it up. Your own community will be really proud of your collective accomplishments.

Edit: A final note. Some people put some effort in organizing this whole event and others may have been anticipating it and wanting to feel this experience. If this whole thing is "pointless" for you, you could as well stay away from it and avoid vandalizing it.

At least respect the effort put on this procedure by the organizers.

can confirm. nice to see the hours it took to put all the polls together (this is not an exaggeration) are just being rigged by Roq and his cronies.

nice to see a fun community activity was treated as something political

at least some people appreciate it.

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3 minutes ago, Spaceman Thrax said:

"I'm going to prove these awards are a meaningless waste of time by putting a bunch of effort into sabotaging them."

I prefer the term 'participating in.' We've violated no rules I'm aware of and are encouraging our members to vote, as do many other AAs.

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I honestly don't care about the inflated polls, lol.  We were guilty of it in the past, but we backed it up too in some areas.

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3 minutes ago, Buorhann said:

I honestly don't care about the inflated polls, lol.  We were guilty of it in the past, but we backed it up too in some areas.

the inherent issue is that if you did it again this year Roq would be !@#$ing about it

in the end i see someone like sval winning funniest player and it just reminds me of the lack of honesty or integrity some people have

Roq could at least have people vote for someone in his own protectorate 

#justiceforzeebrus

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To be fair though, about 80% of the nominations shouldn't exist either.  No need to get cranky over this when it's obviously something to kill time with.

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Yeah, I didn't really think people were taking it that seriously since it's always been a way to kill time. I don't really feel bad for hope since he shits on us all over the place, but some of the other newer players had expectations based on not being around before, so I can sympathize with them if they went into this thinking it'd be like an objective ballot. It's just when people brought up self-voting in the past, they were usually asked "why can't you get people to vote then?" I kind of went over the history of the awards, but I guess some weren't familiar with it.

I didn't decide who was going to be voted in and it was consensus-driven. I was pretty skeptical of the idea initially but it got people to participate as Curu said.

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A part of me is still baffled how Sval is somehow "funnier" than Zeebrus on the other topic. What a god damn shame. Zeebrus should deserve far more votes then she has right now. 

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5 minutes ago, Roquentin said:

Yeah, I didn't really think people were taking it that seriously since it's always been a way to kill time. I don't really feel bad for hope since he shits on us all over the place, but some of the other newer players had expectations based on not being around before, so I can sympathize with them if they went into this thinking it'd be like an objective ballot. It's just when people brought up self-voting in the past, they were usually asked "why can't you get people to vote then?" I kind of went over the history of the awards, but I guess some weren't familiar with it.

I didn't decide who was going to be voted in and it was consensus-driven. 

lmao okay next time you can waste hours of your life setting up polls for people who aren’t going to take it seriously and are just going to vote for people who aren’t deserving of it

by doing what you did you ruined it for people who may actually have wanted to see people who deserved it win

just a thought, since you obviously didnt think about anyone but yourself and how you can “get back at EMC”

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30 minutes ago, Hope said:

the inherent issue is that if you did it again this year Roq would be !@#$ing about it

in the end i see someone like sval winning funniest player and it just reminds me of the lack of honesty or integrity some people have

Roq could at least have people vote for someone in his own protectorate 

#justiceforzeebrus

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9 minutes ago, Hope said:

lmao okay next time you can waste hours of your life setting up polls for people who aren’t going to take it seriously and are just going to vote for people who aren’t deserving of it

by doing what you did you ruined it for people who may actually have wanted to see people who deserved it win

just a thought, since you obviously didnt think about anyone but yourself and how you can “get back at EMC”

Also, rather than deciding that the poll is 'ruined' because the people you think should win aren't currently winning, why don't we let the voters decide who deserves to win and who doesn't? That's the point of having a poll to determine the answers to these questions.

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I mean if this is what’s going to happen then one option is to just scrap the awards and apologize to the people who put it together. If the voting is meaningless then why even create/participate in it

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Alliance of the year: NPO - I don't agree but legit choice

Most powerfull alliance: NPO - I can agree

Best military: BK - During the Trail of Tiers awards BK was voted by many people as worst fighters and I was part of the "wtf in a war with Cornerstone and UPN you voted BK?", but you did ok, there are at least 5-6 alliances over you

Best rookie: Cerberus - Not my pick but not too bad

Best flag: GotG - Not my pick because not original but I like the flag, the problem are all the votes for them, at least try to send some votes to the others

Best war flag: Polaris - Idem, try to not win even the minor awards, you pretty much write a giant RIGGED on the poll

Most active: BK - Not them but this is very debatable

Most honorable: Cornerstone - This is where the joke started

Most improved: GotG - The joke is way bigger now, a vote for Zodiac or NPO wasn't that crazy, but GotG? Really?

Best diplomatic: BK - Debatable but ok

Best economic system: Zodiac - NOPE

Best Recruiting: Zodiac - NOPE, they just take everyone, BK was a legit choice so even when IQ had good chances to win you failed to pick the right alliance

Best propaganda: BK - I voted for them, ayy lmao!

Best growth: NPO - I voted for them... I think... I don't remember

Best forum: BK - NOOOOOOOO I put so much effort on our forum! I want to win this!!!

Most likely to succeed: Acadia - Not them, unless you know something I don't know, maybe they want to join EMC so there's a chance they can succeed

Most immoral: Arrgh - I don't agree because they are just pirates doing pirate things, immoral is more like NK protecting Hogwarts

Most controversial: Iron Guard - Legit

Best for new players: Zodiac - Once again you had better choices on your side

Most missed: Mensa - ZA WARUDO! We all miss them

 

So @Roquentin you could have won 10-12 categories without making this a rigged joke but you are too childish to do it

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10 minutes ago, Lordship said:

I mean if this is what’s going to happen then one option is to just scrap the awards and apologize to the people who put it together. If the voting is meaningless then why even create/participate in it

Well, speaking as a member of the Orbis community, I'd say it would be more meaningless to negate my vote by cancelling the poll because some people feel the right people aren't winning.  If the organisers are going to take their ball and go home when a particular candidate isn't winning, then why are we having these votes to begin with?  We could save everyone a lot of time by just appointing winners to each category if we're going to cancel the vote just because certain people don't like the results so far.

6 minutes ago, Micchan said:

Alliance of the year: NPO - I don't agree but legit choice

Most powerfull alliance: NPO - I can agree

Best military: BK - During the Trail of Tiers awards BK was voted by many people as worst fighters and I was part of the "wtf in a war with Cornerstone and UPN you voted BK?", but you did ok, there are at least 5-6 alliances over you

Best rookie: Cerberus - Not my pick but not too bad

Best flag: GotG - Not my pick because not original but I like the flag, the problem are all the votes for them, at least try to send some votes to the others

Best war flag: Polaris - Idem, try to not win even the minor awards, you pretty much write a giant RIGGED on the poll

Most active: BK - Not them but this is very debatable

Most honorable: Cornerstone - This is where the joke started

Most improved: GotG - The joke is way bigger now, a voted for Zodiac or NPO wasn't that crazy, but GotG? Really?

Best diplomatic: BK - Debatable but ok

Best economic system: Zodiac - NOPE

Best Recruiting: Zodiac - NOPE, they just take everyone, BK was a legit choice so even when IQ had good chances to win you failed to pick the right alliance

Best propaganda: BK - I voted for them, ayy lmao!

Best growth: NPO - I voted for them... I think... I don't remember

Best forum: BK - NOOOOOOOO I put so much effort on our forum! I want to win this!!!

Most likely to succeed: Acadia - Not them, unless you know something I don't know, maybe they want to join EMC so there's a chance they can succeed

Most immoral: Arrgh - I don't agree because they are just pirates doing pirate things, immoral is more like NK protecting Hogwarts

Most controversial: Iron Guard - Legit

Best for new players: Zodiac - Once again you had better choices on your side

Most missed: Mensa - ZA WARUDO! We all miss them

 

So @Roquentin you could have won 10-12 categories without making this a rigged joke but you are too childish to do it

Well I mean you're entitled to your opinion, but it appears that a significant percentage of voters disagree with you.  

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17 minutes ago, Curufinwe said:

Well, speaking as a member of the Orbis community, I'd say it would be more meaningless to negate my vote by cancelling the poll because some people feel the right people aren't winning.  If the organisers are going to take their ball and go home when a particular candidate isn't winning, then why are we having these votes to begin with?  We could save everyone a lot of time by just appointing winners to each category if we're going to cancel the vote just because certain people don't like the results so far.

Well I mean you're entitled to your opinion, but it appears that a significant percentage of voters disagree with you.  

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I’d argue that you’ve disregarded the spirit of the poll and awards by intentionally funneling votes into parties that you have admitted have no business being in the running lol, I would agree with you normally but due to the blatant disregard for it, seems like there’s no point now 

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8 minutes ago, Auctor said:

The spirit of the poll is whomever gets the most votes wins. That's how votes work. There's no inherent value to the motives of voters. If you hadn't wanted this to be a vote, yall could have just announced the winners you choose instead of having a series of hissy fits.

You should coordinate the replies, your leader just said "I never won awards that I didn't deserve and I'm very butthurt about this so I rigged the poll to win everything... but this has no meaning, I don't care at all about the winner, I swear!"

EMC rigged one poll, the one for the name of the Trail of Tiers, and I'm still mad because Roq Bottom was a better name

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For the record I also voted NPO for alliance most likely to succeed in 2018 (same for Roq in the equivalent player category). But this is too rich. :D BK for best diplomatic staff (I can't think of an alliance with worse FA), BK for best military (I guess getting mauled despite having first strike advantage is the reason), Acadia for alliance most likely to succeed in 2018 (I don't know what to say, really :3).

I'm one of the people who voted for a large array of players and alliances everywhere in these "best" categories, and I wonder... if IQsphere dominates pretty much every one of these categories even though they've been completely inept thus far, I can't imagine what these polls will look like next year if they're the dominant sphere. I'm finding this hilarious, so please carry on with your voting.:popcorn:

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4 minutes ago, Micchan said:

EMC rigged one poll, the one for the name of the Trail of Tiers

Hmm most honorable alliance is striking me first :P 
But this is new level of trolling and shitting on active community.

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7 minutes ago, Lordship said:

I’d argue that you’ve disregarded the spirit of the poll and awards by intentionally funneling votes into parties that you have admitted have no business being in the running lol, I would agree with you normally but due to the blatant disregard for it, seems like there’s no point now 

We violated no rules I'm aware of and as far as I know (since I can't actually see who voted for who) every vote has been cast by a member of PW in good standing.  And actually, I think Sval is a funny guy, CS is an honourable AA and Seeker has done some good work in GoG and apparently a fair number of people agree with me.  If you disagree, that is your prerogative - you can vote for someone else and if enough people agree with you, they'll win the category.  What isn't your prerogative is to try to nullify my vote because you don't think that my choices are correct.  Every person who has voted has just as much right to do so as you or I and, quite honestly, it's pretty elitist to suggest otherwise because you disagree with the votes they've chosen to cast. When Syndi-OO dominated voting (in 2016 for example) I don't recall these kinds of objections being raised, which calls into question what exactly you mean by the 'spirit' that is currently being violated by our members voting.

 

5 minutes ago, Micchan said:

You should coordinate the replies, your leader just said "I never won awards that I didn't deserve and I'm very butthurt about this so I rigged the poll to win everything... but this has no meaning, I don't care at all about the winner, I swear!"

EMC rigged one poll, the one for the name of the Trail of Tiers, and I'm still mad because Roq Bottom was a better name

You know, traditionally 'vote rigging' means doing stuff like stuffing ballot boxes with fake ballots, intentionally preventing people who don't support you from voting and refusing to count votes against your candidate.  As far as I know, no one (including Roq) has done any of these things, so you can't really credibly accuse us rigging the vote.  We are encouraging our members to vote, but that's called 'participating,' which really isn't the same thing.

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Didn't know getting folks to get out to vote is now some evil plot by Roquentin or something. I mean its pretty worse off for you folks to claim our votes are invalid because it doesn't support your arbitrary view of how the awards have to go or something.

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1 minute ago, Micchan said:

You should coordinate the replies, your leader just said "I never won awards that I didn't deserve and I'm very butthurt about this so I rigged the poll to win everything... but this has no meaning, I don't care at all about the winner, I swear!"

EMC rigged one poll, the one for the name of the Trail of Tiers, and I'm still mad because Roq Bottom was a better name

No, his point was that if the results of the voting are going to be displayed in the game for an entire year, thus coloring the impressions new players have of alliances, then we do care. If this were just a couple of threads that would collect dust on the forums for a year, we wouldn't.

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