Kriegskoenig Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Charlie Traveler said: *snipped the excuses* 3) A sting operation against your allies. Good look, my dude. 4) TGH/KT stated that they heard the leak from Polaris long before Cynic came to them with the intel. Bad Company left Vanguard as we had been pushing to do for weeks. The next day, the Inquisition hit BC. This is on the coattails of Cynic leaking OPSEC intel and promptly sending BC's bank to BK. Please tell me that wasn't a set up prompted by BC's obvious moves to withdraw from Vanguard. 12 hours ago, Kevanovia said: *snipped more excuses* 3) Naw fam, Cynic ended up being a turdbag - also Polar leaked as well. 4) Errrrr what? The leak was manufactured from Polar/Pacifica. Therefore Polar had the info. Sure Cynic leaked it, but it was found that Polar were the first ones to hand out that info to TGH and friends. OK. Last time I'll do this with you two particular individuals over this, but let me help you with some pointers here. Don't make excuses for bad behavior. The reasons you think you have for acting out are never good enough. That's a lesson both of you will hopefully learn with maturity and long-term relationships. Now, Charlie, for you in particular. If you don't occasionally leak-test your alliance, then I'd hardly be surprised that you're leaky. If you don't leak-test your allies, especially after an obvious leak or two, you're completely incompetent. Everyone competent already knows how to do this and why, but for you and anyone else who doesn't, read Spycatcher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spycatcher) Peter Wright's biography covering his work in MI5. Pay particular attention to the "barium meal test" descriptions, and you'll learn how to use this to catch a leaker in a remarkably effective way. "TGH/KT stated." Oh, Charlie. I'm sorry I have to even explain this to you...When you have a leak, to an outside group, and that group tells you that the source of the leak is someone else, why do you think they might do that? It shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Also, barium meal test, buddy. Nobody else could have leaked the info that BC had, because only BC was given it. Now, if you think Cynic was a BK plant to leak your intel, make you look bad, steal your bank and give it to BK, and get you kicked out of VG and rolled, well...I'm sure that's as fun as most conspiracy theories are. I do remember that BK roflmao-ed...and sent your bank back to you. Maybe they should have kept it, since you usually leave that part out. Kev, I figured you could do better, but you and Charlie seem to be attached to the same unimaginative hivemind. "Cynic ended up being a turdbag." Yeah, no argument there. BC DID put him in gov though. So that does still reflect poorly on you as gov at the time. Did Cynic have any prior history that might have indicated his tendencies? "Also Polar leaked as well." Right. So, you're really going with whataboutism and "no u" as your chosen excuses? "Polaris" couldn't have leaked, mate. Barium meal test. Research it, and you'll realize how funny your claim is. Only a very, very small group knew who was given what info. Despite the rather desperate protestation you make that the intended leak was "manufactured from" a combination of "Polar/Pacifica," you make a classic mistake here. NPO had nothing to do with the info, nor was involved. Polaris had only two individuals involved, because it turns out we actually know how to keep a "secret" secret. Yes, BC leaked it. And got caught doing so. Maybe it was Cynic. Maybe it was another of you that has an affinity for KT/TGH. It wasn't my gov, so not my problem. That was for you guys to handle internally. (Given the issues with leaks, planned departures, and the rapid deterioration of the gov group in the aftermath, it just wasn't a solid and loyal enough group anyway. I do feel for Alexio trying to keep the herd of cats aligned.) Regardless of who we want to blame in that gov for the leaks at the time, saying "it was found" (nice use of passive voice for an unsourced statement) that Polar handed out the info is delicious. The only way you'd know that, especially given that the leak was proven to exist, would be if the counter-intel operation had told TGH, which then would then have to tell you. That would have sabotaged the entire operation, obviously. You really need to THINK before making these kind of wild accusations or believing what you're told by the group that is exploiting an intel source within your own government. Don't worry though. Polar man bad, TGH man good. There was no leak, you were set up. BK hated you and took your bank by planting a BK deepstate spy in your campaign while Russia/TGH did nothing wrong... Hey! I've got this sweet bridge in Brooklyn for sale, it's a great business opportunity! 1 2 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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