Shadowthrone Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sketchy said: I literally just posted the stats as they are recorded. I didn't remark on them, boast, call anyone shit, or anything of the sort. The fact you are trying to complain about objectivity is preposterous lmfao. I plan on posting regular updates as the war carries on, so if the damages are flipped, they'll show in your favor won't they? @Shadowthrone I'm not sure you know what the definition of objective is. But since you asked, I'll make a deeper "statistical analysis" just for you. My comment wasn't directed at you per se @Sketchy but the lack of posts here looking anything other than the infra loss value as some great metric of how the war is going. That being said, I'm looking forward to it, not as to boast, but because it gives me a better understanding of how the wars going and how to help move things around where I can Edited March 22, 2018 by Shadowthrone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Them Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sketchy said: I literally just posted the stats as they are recorded. I didn't remark on them, boast, call anyone shit, or anything of the sort. I know. I'm just emphasizing that the data from the stat tracker are questionable and people should be wary when drawing conclusions from them. You said the same yourself. That's why I quoted Thalmor, and not your original post. Edited March 22, 2018 by Them Quote [insert quote here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Shadowthrone said: My comment wasn't directed at you per se @Sketchy but the lack of posts here looking anything other than the value as some great metric of how the war is going. That being said, I'm looking forward to it, not as to boast, but because it gives me a better understanding of how the wars going and how to help move things around where I can Fair enough. In my experience no matter what stats I post, people tend to just take whatever they want to see from them. Just now, Them said: I know. I'm just emphasizing that the data from the stat tracker are questionable and people should be wary when drawing conclusions from them. You said the same yourself. That's why I quoted Thalmor, and not your original post. That part of my post was in response to shadow, the part I was responding to in yours was that it was to early for starts, I was just clarifying that I'd continue to update it as the war progressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Sketchy said: Fair enough. In my experience no matter what stats I post, people tend to just take whatever they want to see from them. Don't doubt that. Either way, it'd be interesting to see and moreover, improve the conversations from solely using infra damage as a measure of war performance to other real dynamic™ military stat tracking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 People want material for their own narrative. I don't believe Sketchy's thread was posted with the intention of showing how IQ is performing. Rather, I think he took the publicly available (and easy to collate) statistics, and posted them. Don't read too deep into it. To the people who do believe they are able to use this as an accurate metric of performance: you're as dumb as they come. If the strategies IQ was employing (here I'll refer to NPO especially, since they don't target infra in this round, nor do they beige) were the same as the other coalition, maybe it would provide a decent look into how the war was going. That is not the case. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frawley Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 And Here are some other stats, only two casual assumptions are a steel price of $5,000 and a aluminum price of $3,000. Non-IQ Stats IQ Stats Clear ass kicker here Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks! That seems far more interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) The hero of our time. There is a question I have, though: the values of net damage should be the same, no? Unless this was comparing API records from pre-war, to post-war. Which would make a lot more sense, since there have been member dropouts, additions etc. Edited March 22, 2018 by Dio Brando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Graham Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, Frawley said: And Here are some other stats, only two casual assumptions are a steel price of $5,000 and a aluminum price of $3,000. Non-IQ Stats IQ Stats Clear ass kicker here Rose. :C Not doing as well as we'd have hoped. Thanks for the stats, gives a good picture of where we're at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Karl VII Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sketchy said: @Shadowthrone I'm not sure you know what the definition of objective is. But since you asked, I'll make a deeper "statistical analysis" just for you. Edited March 22, 2018 by Karl VII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Used the stat tracker so not super accurate It is the difference from the stats taken on 18-03-2018 and the stats taken on 22-03-2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 That is net displacement, not true loss/increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzers Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 In some cases the infra stat won't give you the whole story. Because of the beige mechanic, targeting infra now isn't something you can just do freely. The stats are cool and give something of a holistic view of the war, and I definitely couldn't compile them myself, I don't have the knowhow, but military unit stats are likely going to be a more effective tell. 1 Quote Roll Squeegee pact with Redarmy and Ameyuri Blues Brothers pact with Redarmy Leader of the Elyion Resistance. If it's backed by NPO, you know it's evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raoul Duke Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 We should all just declare world peace, use the money we would have spent on military units to max out our baseball teams and then spam a couple of billion baseball games. Think of the profits and the delight on the faces of the previously war-torn children. It's actually a viable and infinitely more profitable solution. Quote Registered slot thief Buy the ticket, take the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 hours ago, LeotheGreat said: Haha wasn’t even meant to be edgy. But IQ will need to drag this out to balence the differential just like last war, perhaps longer. You needed an apology, 5 billion and for me to fly the OQ flag for a while to even out the differential. By all metrics that means my apology is worth billions. I'm flattered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnuts Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 All these stats no matter how you might edit them to look better for your own alliance, there is one thing it leaves out, PROFIT to all those who are now selling steel, i see someone is buying up massive amounts of it lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Costello Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Always a pleasure @Sketchy keeps us updated.. Quote I hold the Right to my own Fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I am really not surprised by this thread. 4 Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks for the stats. Quote “ Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. †–The First Ideal of the Windrunners, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Thrax Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I mean stats definitely need to be read in the aggregate to be meaningful. Sketchy's first post would be more accurately titled "Who fought people who bought too much infra!?" than "Who is best at fighting wars!?" if you were only allowed to look at it alone. Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Spaceman Thrax said: I mean stats definitely need to be read in the aggregate to be meaningful. Sketchy's first post would be more accurately titled "Who fought people who bought too much infra!?" than "Who is best at fighting wars!?" if you were only allowed to look at it alone. Rather, it should say: who focused on infra damage or launched heavily infra damaging attacks. NPO has not bought too much infra. It is still in the negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadow Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The only thing this entire thread helped me to do is find for sure who are on my side and who aren't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinimac Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Damn, and I came here to see how we were doing. No love. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadow Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Come to think of it, NSR was excluded from the list. Perhaps its time to change sides @Trinimac On 21/03/2018 at 6:59 PM, Sketchy said: Stats are based on the stat tracker so if they are wrong blame Alex lmfao. Just a question @Sketchy Damage done by non-IQ side=/=Damage taken by IQ side. There is a difference of nearly 700M Why is it so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frawley Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheShadow said: Come to think of it, NSR was excluded from the list. Perhaps its time to change sides @Trinimac My next update has you guys, I just used the front page list for my first data set to test it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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