Doughnuts Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, Frawley said: 4 days after the war started, and I opened with the line. 'Clear ass kicker here is Rose' - If you don't like the stats do your own. Do not get me wrong i like the stats, just think you made the price for steel at 5k ppu to make it look better for your side, as you wont lose much steel just using planes?, you knew this from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, MoonShadow said: Do not get me wrong i like the stats, just think you made the price for steel at 5k ppu to make it look better for your side smh 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Costello Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 If my calculations are correct. The past 3 days we have hurt $56 million on TKR and Silenzio vs. The $6 we accumulated. Quote I hold the Right to my own Fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Costello said: If my calculations are correct. The past 3 days we have hurt $56 million on TKR and Silenzio vs. The $6 we accumulated. So tkr is ahead 8 billion. Just wait for them to confirm. I sense salt inbound 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Some solid stats here, thanks for the effort Frawley 32 minutes ago, Johnny Costello said: If my calculations are correct. The past 3 days we have hurt $56 million on TKR and Silenzio vs. The $6 we accumulated. It's totally possible, most of your expensive infra is gone or the vast majority of you are in beige so I'd believe it. 30 minutes ago, Apeman said: So tkr is ahead 8 billion. Just wait for them to confirm. I sense salt inbound You responded to a post from a guy talking about some math that is totally within reason due to some in-game variables and you bring up us being salty. Have you taken leave of your senses? 2 Quote Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Called it 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Costello Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Well true. Also I skewed my call. Round 1 I saw about eaver at 500m for both sides. But I missed calculating my beiges on that.. I forget the day that happened Quote I hold the Right to my own Fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I think nukes and missiles used should be counted as damage because you lose them forever, and the upkeep should also be added, for some players is a 2 years upkeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Micchan said: ...The upkeep should also be added, for some players is a 2 years upkeep That sounds like a reduction of liabilities to me, reduce damage recieved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnuts Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Sketchy said: smh its not tin foil hat lets face it, IQ are not using tanks or ships so they wont lose much steel, Non IQ are using only ships and tanks mostly this means we will lose a lot of steel. Yet has anyone from non iq side spent billions on steel or have they been using steel they had gotten before the war even happened ? you know when steel was a hello of a lot cheaper? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, MoonShadow said: its not tin foil hat lets face it, IQ are not using tanks or ships so they wont lose much steel, Non IQ are using only ships and tanks mostly this means we will lose a lot of steel. Yet has anyone from non iq side spent billions on steel or have they been using steel they had gotten before the war even happened ? you know when steel was a hello of a lot cheaper? Its one thing to say that, another thing to paint it as some sort of intentional conspiracy lmfao. You are reaching. 5k ppu isn't an unreasonable valuation of steel considering the market has been trending upwards (and will continue to do so) ever since sheepy rolled out the econ update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnuts Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sketchy said: Its one thing to say that, another thing to paint it as some sort of intentional conspiracy lmfao. You are reaching. 5k ppu isn't an unreasonable valuation of steel considering the market has been trending upwards (and will continue to do so) ever since sheepy rolled out the econ update. Well as the new Econ update made it so people make more steel in the same time frame (50% more from the same number of improvements) You think the value goes up?, generally if you have 100,000 steel for sale and the price is trending at 4k ppu, then due to the up date you make 150,000 steel in the same time frame, same costs, the price will drop to about 3k ppu not jump to 5k ppu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, MoonShadow said: Well as the new Econ update made it so people make more steel in the same time frame (50% more from the same number of improvements) You think the value goes up?, generally if you have 100,000 steel for sale and the price is trending at 4k ppu, then due to the up date you make 150,000 steel in the same time frame, same costs, the price will drop to about 3k ppu not jump to 5k ppu It’s ok buddy. If you are winning as much as you think you are surely the stats by the evil NPO don’t matter. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Average steel price in the last month: 4730 Average alum price in the last month: 2930 Just use these so everyone is happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 7 hours ago, MoonShadow said: Well as the new Econ update made it so people make more steel in the same time frame (50% more from the same number of improvements) You think the value goes up?, generally if you have 100,000 steel for sale and the price is trending at 4k ppu, then due to the up date you make 150,000 steel in the same time frame, same costs, the price will drop to about 3k ppu not jump to 5k ppu Okay sorry let me clarify, the econ update before the last econ update lmfao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Costello Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Micchan said: I think nukes and missiles used should be counted as damage because you lose them forever, and the upkeep should also be added, for some players is a 2 years upkeep but upkeep isn't damages.... by definition. lmao Quote I hold the Right to my own Fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 then are we tracking all the steel NB is using to build up into our range and then quickly dropping to get out of counter range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mikey Posted April 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Also, the fact that IQ isn't using as much steel isn't some weird stat tracker exploit. It just means their strategy leads to reduced damages from lost tanks/ships, and that being reflected in the stats is entirely legit. You can quibble about what the steel PPU should be, but complaining about them not running tanks is idiotic. Either their strategy of avoiding steel loss and score increase is just better than yours, or it is costing them in other areas that will ultimately lead to worse performance and stats overall. Edited April 2, 2018 by Mikey 10 Quote Archduke Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Reach, Warden of the South, Breaker of Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frawley Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 At this point I'm not going to update the steel/aluminium prices, however for next war I'll work on a more consistent and testable output. Changing it now would make the results incomparable over time, and from my own testing, changed the total damage amount by 4.1b or 1.41% of the total of 293b in damage done over the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Frawley said: total of 293b in damage done wewlad Let's keep it up for another two months and try for a trillion, bet we can pull it off Edited April 4, 2018 by Sir Scarfalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) On 4/2/2018 at 6:44 PM, Sweeeeet Ronny D said: then are we tracking all the steel NB is using to build up into our range and then quickly dropping to get out of counter range? And can we also track the RL time we've wasted on this buggy game and all the time we've wasted posting salt pics and wearing out our s, a, l, and t keys on our keyboard. These are just as important metrics to keep track of. Maybe you shouldn't be highlighting your damage numbers SRD. *whale noises* I can assure you tracking steel won't make yours any less awful. Edited April 4, 2018 by Placentica 1 Quote Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 NB damaged 11B of our infra but gave us 6B loot, so nice <3 Loot is very underrated in wars, to destroy infra you have to use gas and ammo so you spend something to destroy something with a bigger value, with loot you remove something to the enemy and you get that for you so the real damage of loot is double the loot value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Placentica said: And can we also track the RL time we've wasted on this buggy game and all the time we've wasted posting salt pics and wearing out our s, a, l, and t keys on our keyboard. These are just as important metrics to keep track of. Maybe you shouldn't be highlighting your damage numbers SRD. *whale noises* I can assure you tracking steel won't make yours any less awful. I don't know, 50k infra destroyed in one round vs eating 8 nukes I thought was pretty decent, you guys need to nuke me another 19 times before you can claim to break even on me. Could the infra destroyed been higher? Probably, but we had to kill off all that military first (at least before you guys destroyed it yourselves) At the end of the day, I am just glade we are speaking again Steve, it warms the cockles of my heart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Micchan Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Frawley said: You have to add these on our side https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=4468 https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=4320 https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=4457 https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=4482 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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