Mogar Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Congrats to both parties! Quote if you carry your childhood with you, you never become older Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazaric Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 If you give me 1 million dollars Sketchy I will approve. I read this as "If you give me 1 million dollars Sketchy I will improve." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 In terms of actual side force sizes this is probably closer to reality. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He didn't sign with Jay, but he still send a tidal wave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He didn't sign with Jay, but he still send a tidal wave Park the Benz just to ride the Wraith 1 Quote Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Well this was my leaving present for ROK congrats on getting it up. O/ROK O/Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 tTO only has a treaty with KT. KT has an MD level treaty with tTO and LoC (IQ sphere according to your logic, or at best "other") They have two OD level treaties with TCW and Pantheon. That depends, you are trying to paint a picture about the size of both sides. Protectorates can't be realistically included in the size of sides if they aren't guaranteed, obligated, nor usually likely to participate in any wars. Thanks for sharing your criteria. Can't say that would be the most accurate way to go about things but I can respect the follow-through. Have to agree with one of Roq's arguments concerning these number speculation threads though, you can never quantify exactly how effective that NS is going to be even if you were 100% accurate in predicting where they stand. In that way this speculation is even less reliable map. More of a guideline.Interesting you consider some of these folks as Syndi though. Is that an opinion shared by a lot of other non Syndi folks? In terms of actual side force sizes this is probably closer to reality. "MD treaties or treaties with only Syndisphere doesn't mean they're actually in Syndisphere. I mean, even the alliance can admit it but they're not included." Cut the BS. There are 23 alliances in Syndisphere. To argue against KT/tTO is one thing, to realistically say Spectrum, NK, and protectorates aren't in is again, laughable. This is literally treaties you guys signed and you're literally trying to swing that they aren't included in your sphere. I guess signing treaties makes you unaligned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodosius Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) I love how every Rose thread goes off topic lmao Congrats on the treaty fellas. Edited June 23, 2017 by Aurelian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollocks Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 "MD treaties or treaties with only Syndisphere doesn't mean they're actually in Syndisphere. I mean, even the alliance can admit it but they're not included." Cut the BS. There are 23 alliances in Syndisphere. To argue against KT/tTO is one thing, to realistically say Spectrum, NK, and protectorates aren't in is again, laughable. This is literally treaties you guys signed and you're literally trying to swing that they aren't included in your sphere. I guess signing treaties makes you unaligned? Where's your breakdown? Quote The Coalition Discord: https://discord.gg/WBzNRGK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Where's your breakdown? Page 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) TL;DR Welcome! Edited June 23, 2017 by Redarmy Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 "MD treaties or treaties with only Syndisphere doesn't mean they're actually in Syndisphere. I mean, even the alliance can admit it but they're not included." Cut the BS. There are 23 alliances in Syndisphere. To argue against KT/tTO is one thing, to realistically say Spectrum, NK, and protectorates aren't in is again, laughable. This is literally treaties you guys signed and you're literally trying to swing that they aren't included in your sphere. I guess signing treaties makes you unaligned? I wasn't contesting the protectorates are part of the sphere, just that they accurately reflect the "strength" of our sphere which is what your post was trying to imply. A protectorate is not obligated to defend their protector so that is deceptive. Also according to your logic, there is a a lot more than 13 nations in IQ. You seem to be ignoring nuance on purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I wasn't contesting the protectorates are part of the sphere, just that they accurately reflect the "strength" of our sphere which is what your post was trying to imply. A protectorate is not obligated to defend their protector so that is deceptive. Also according to your logic, there is a a lot more than 13 nations in IQ. You seem to be ignoring nuance on purpose. I only did top 50, and I never said there were 13 in IQ. I said there were 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) In terms of actual side force sizes this is probably closer to reality. This is probably the more accurate of score disparity of the different spheres and minispheres/blocs than yours Kastor. Every single one of them has their own agenda that they want to fulfil and to assume Spectrum will automatically jump head first into defending tS/TKR/Rose (and thus be part of Syndisphere) is preposterous at best. On a side note, Congratulations ROK and Rose. Especially you Sketchy, Lord of Spectrum and Dayimo of Rose. Edited June 23, 2017 by Cypher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollocks Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Page 1. That's not a breakdown. A breakdown is what sketchy did. You just threw a bunch of numbers together that at best had a tenuous grasp on the facts. Quote The Coalition Discord: https://discord.gg/WBzNRGK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Thrax Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Uhhm yeah. Why not make a separate thread for the stat breakdowns? Good luck, RoK and Rose. Know some pretty chill homosapiens in both AAs. Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Uhhm yeah. Why not make a separate thread for the stat breakdowns? Good luck, RoK and Rose. Know some pretty chill homosapiens in both AAs. Did you just assume that they are homosapiens??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Uhhm yeah. Why not make a separate thread for the stat breakdowns? Because it's not a Rose thread with out it devolving into shamblesphere whining. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trajan Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Congrats Diomedes and good luck to Rok and Rose, Quick thing can u unblock me? :| I unblocked you weeks ago Quote Roman Empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 That's not a breakdown. A breakdown is what sketchy did. You just threw a bunch of numbers together that at best had a tenuous grasp on the facts. Obviously you need to read the first page again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 TKR, Pantheon, tS, Rose, Mensa, TCW, KT, tTO, NK, Guardian, TFP, tC, Resplendent, Charming Friends, Ragnarok, House Stark, RnR, Dark Brotherhood, Grumpy, Vox Populi, the Fed, Ironborn, Zeon. I did it off of treaty ties. It's not really debatable because the only ties between Syndi and IQ are Rose-CKD ODP and tS-Zodiac MDP. The sides are pretty set and all you guys are doing is simply consolidating between yourselves. @Bollocks since you cannot read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Congratulations guys, I am fans of you both. I also agree that it seems like it would make more sense for you to make your own thread for these stats Kastor. It's possible by posting them in every new treaty thread it will hijack the topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollocks Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 @Bollocks since you cannot read. I'll spell out for you since your reading comprehension is clearly challenged: Throwing a random list together and not even listing other alliances =/= breakdown. Quote The Coalition Discord: https://discord.gg/WBzNRGK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Name Here Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Update: Syndi- 1,529,000 total score, 874 members, 1,742.42 average score. 23 alliances IQ 880,000 total score, 824 members 1,067.96 average score, 15 alliances other 438,000 total score, 192 members, 2,385.41average score. 12 alliances I'll be keeping this updated throughout all the threads. I'll have another one ready for the House Stark-CKD treaty. Congratulations to Rose and Rok. More consolidation. Dude, seriously? You were giving me shit on that other thread and you keep this sad attempt at propaganda on another treaty announcement thread? Good grief you're a joke... Anyway (and I won't feed your off-topic drivel in this thread), congrats to Rose and Ragnarok on the treaty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Dude, seriously? You were giving me shit on that other thread and you keep this sad attempt at propaganda on another treaty announcement thread? Good grief you're a joke... Anyway (and I won't feed your off-topic drivel in this thread), congrats to Rose and Ragnarok on the treaty! You continue to say this is negative lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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