Vosunda Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 This has been the most entertaining war declaration in a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHat Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 We aren't "hypocritical." We never said it was morally wrong to raid. We said that if you raid, there may be consequences. Aargh raided, they got consequences. We raided you and now, as a consequence, you're looking at hitting us back. We're not complaining, therefore we're not hypocritical. Seriously, is the entire member base of this game 14-17 year olds who aren't smart enough to make it into their high school AP classes? I was actually working off these definitions: hypocrisy [hi-pok-ruh-see] noun, plural hypocrisies. 1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess. 2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude. The whole pretending you are more virtuous then arrgh in some way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Richardson Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 We aren't implying that either. Aargh did something that we didn't like so we used our military to show them that they shouldn't mess with us or our friends. Pretty simple, really. Quote ☾☆ And Dio said unto him, "I trust you. Share my word." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saeton Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 We didn't post a war declaration because we weren't declaring war on you. It wasn't vetted by our leadership or anything. A handful of our members decided to raid your alliance since you had no allies other than Arrgh, and keep a !@#$ton of money in your alliance bank. Not really sure what realm you're from, but when a handful of people from one alliance attack another, that's an act of war. That's not raiding. That's war. You can attempt to sugarcoat it all you want and pretend to be the good guy, but you're not. That's war. We aren't implying that either. Aargh did something that we didn't like so we used our military to show them that they shouldn't mess with us or our friends. Pretty simple, really. You didn't like that Aargh raided you, so you hit them back. But you're doing the exact same thing to Vanguard. It doesn't matter what you're implying. It doesn't matter how you try to twist it - you're doing the same thing to Vanguard that Aargh did to you. You just didn't like it when you were the victim. Oh, but right. IF IT WERE WAR THEY'D HAVE NO INFRA XDDDDDDDDDD 1 Quote (TEst lives on but I'm in BK stronk now and too lazy to change the image) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreau Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Inb4 ban meteo theread Quote Signed by Sultan Moreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Richardson Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 We have raiding rules. Vanguard didn't qualify for them -- normally they would have because of Aargh protecting them, but given that we were actively at war with Aargh, raiding Vanguard became okay. So we did. Because raiding is fun, makes us money, and such. And yes, we didn't like that Aargh raided us and our friends, so we hit them. Vanguard presumably doesn't like us raiding them, so they will hit us. We are all fine with that. You won't find a MENSA member complaining about it. I'm really not sure what is so confusing about this entire thought process. And we aren't trying to imply we're "good guys." We raided Vanguard and I would fully expect that they don't like that. We just don't care that they don't like it. Quote ☾☆ And Dio said unto him, "I trust you. Share my word." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Not really sure what realm you're from, but when a handful of people from one alliance attack another, that's an act of war. That's not raiding. That's war. You can attempt to sugarcoat it all you want and pretend to be the good guy, but you're not. That's war. You didn't like that Aargh raided you, so you hit them back. But you're doing the exact same thing to Vanguard. It doesn't matter what you're implying. It doesn't matter how you try to twist it - you're doing the same thing to Vanguard that Aargh did to you. You just didn't like it when you were the victim. Oh, but right. IF IT WERE WAR THEY'D HAVE NO INFRA XDDDDDDDDDD If you are generally confused, when we are at war we kill infra. IMHO: They are absolutely in their rights to DoW. Actually, they do not require previous actions to DoW - any time is fine. Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Learn how to snip you moron Was intentional to show the wall of text, fuktard. Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marflebark Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 All I know is I would enjoy seeing the people who posted walls of text, destroyed, because too much reading. Quote Marflebark, Aardful Advisor of the Aardwolf Empire.Furry.LGBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Vanguard sure has some bad luck. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saeton Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 If you are generally confused, when we are at war we kill infra. IMHO: They are absolutely in their rights to DoW. Actually, they do not require previous actions to DoW - any time is fine. It's still an act of war. VoC tried to do the same thing in Beta. They just went and bit off more than they could chew. Quote (TEst lives on but I'm in BK stronk now and too lazy to change the image) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormrideron Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 This thread is gold. Quote Commander-in-Chief of Svalbard Island Badassery Rating: 100% / Popularity Rating: 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 VoC tried to do the same thing in Beta. They just went and bit off more than they could chew. Not really, WWA was well in PPC+VoC's favor. Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The !@#$ did I watch in the OP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 It's still an act of war. "Act of war", sure. But so is shitposting, annoying someone, existing as a nation on a day that ends in "y", etc. Like I said, they are well within their rights to DoW. Just my personal opinion on the matter. Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBunny Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 ZA WARUDO Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Not really sure what realm you're from, but when a handful of people from one alliance attack another, that's an act of war. That's not raiding. That's war. You can attempt to sugarcoat it all you want and pretend to be the good guy, but you're not. That's war. You didn't like that Aargh raided you, so you hit them back. But you're doing the exact same thing to Vanguard. It doesn't matter what you're implying. It doesn't matter how you try to twist it - you're doing the same thing to Vanguard that Aargh did to you. You just didn't like it when you were the victim. Oh, but right. IF IT WERE WAR THEY'D HAVE NO INFRA XDDDDDDDDDD Not sure what part of this is so confusing or complicated for you. Yes, we don't like when people raid us - so we retaliate. It doesn't mean we think raiding should be banned. No one is complaining, that I can see, that Vanguard retaliated over our raiding. The part that is kind of silly is deciding for us that we declared war on them, which we didn't. An alliance war is a particular thing done in a particular way, and what our guys were doing was not that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Von Dietrich Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) The wall of text is larger than the wall Trump wants built >.>. Edited January 23, 2016 by Francisco Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The wall of text is larger than the wall Trump wants built >.>. WALLS OF TEXT 2016 1 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Warn point was worth it js.... Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBunny Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 War = Burn your infrastructure to the ground. Raid = Take all your lootz I don't see how this is confusing. Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Not sure what part of this is so confusing or complicated for you. Yes, we don't like when people raid us - so we retaliate. It doesn't mean we think raiding should be banned. No one is complaining, that I can see, that Vanguard retaliated over our raiding. The part that is kind of silly is deciding for us that we declared war on them, which we didn't. An alliance war is a particular thing done in a particular way, and what our guys were doing was not that. We can show the difference to them again I suppose. Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Damn, had I known we had declared war, I would have padded my Infra destroyed score instead of raiding a shit ton of money and resources... Quote ☾☆ Warrior of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nie Li Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 War = Burn your infrastructure to the ground. Raid = Take all your lootz I don't see how this is confusing. Both raiding and war require u to click on the DECLARE WAR button, so it is the same thing. Look at that Mesa HQ is not so smart. Quote Protector of Low tier nations, from Empire of Spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caecus Posted January 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2016 Td;lr first three walls of text. Vanguard, what ever the !@#$ your leadership thinks it's doing, it should stop. Normally, my heart would be bleeding for all the poor people being squished under the Mensa Steamroller (better copyright that shit). But Vanguard, you dumbasses thought it was a good idea to not mil up the second Arrgh takes one to the face. For an alliance that goes paperless, you guys got to get your shit together, and you guys got to get your shit together faster. This political move here, I can see how it is trying to garner support from the international community, but the fact that you guys don't have a pact with anyone (and probably never bothered to get one) leaves you in the perfect shit storm where you are now. There is nobody to blame for this except your own incompetence and lack of readiness. P.S. !@#$ u guys with the walls of shit. 7 Quote It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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