Monthly Political Power Rankings

[Muskar XII]

Bit ignorant here, but why the lack of TEst?
I would weakly argue that: Cataclysm and Eclipse (as well as Weebunism and Aurora) get the limelight in this list and all the attention in their GWs, whilst TEst sits in the shadows dominating the upper tier in every GW clock fights in. Clock pushes a narrative that Ro$e and HW should go to war with each other due to upper tier consolidation/hegemony/... which has happened. Clock hasn't gone up against either of those blocs, which they could take on if they went on the offensive (sure it would be a struggle, but it would be interesting at least). Now I'm not saying we need to give TEst credit for being the ultimate puppet masters in Orbis, I'm just highlighting that TEst not being in the top 25 seems strange to me personally, and would be interested in finding out your/others reasoning.

[Keegoz]

22 minutes ago, Syldavia said:

Bit ignorant here, but why the lack of TEst?
I would weakly argue that: Cataclysm and Eclipse (as well as Weebunism and Aurora) get the limelight in this list and all the attention in their GWs, whilst TEst sits in the shadows dominating the upper tier in every GW clock fights in. Clock pushes a narrative that Ro$e and HW should go to war with each other due to upper tier consolidation/hegemony/... which has happened. Clock hasn't gone up against either of those blocs, which they could take on if they went on the offensive (sure it would be a struggle, but it would be interesting at least). Now I'm not saying we need to give TEst credit for being the ultimate puppet masters in Orbis, I'm just highlighting that TEst not being in the top 25 seems strange to me personally, and would be interested in finding out your/others reasoning.

TEst is Eclipse. They are the same alliance.

[Cooper_]

On 3/30/2022 at 7:10 PM, Kevanovia said:

Monthly Political Power Rankings (MPPR)

I really like this idea, and I think it could be really cool if we could get some form of anonymous poll of alliance leaders.  This might be more logistically challenging, but would also give us a picture of how the current decision-markers see things going.  Cheers  

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

10 hours ago, Cooper_ said:

I really like this idea, and I think it could be really cool if we could get some form of anonymous poll of alliance leaders.  This might be more logistically challenging, but would also give us a picture of how the current decision-markers see things going.  Cheers  

I wish to proactively unsubscribe to this poll if it ever happens.

[Kevanovia]

April Monthly Political Power Rankings (MPPR)
(Month 5)

 

1. Eclipse (☾) (+4)
2.  Rose (🌹)(+5)
3. Singularity (SIN) (N/A)
4. The Syndicate (t$) (-)
5. Event Horizon (N/A)
6. The Knights Radiant (TKR) (-4)
7. Knights Templar (KT) (N/A)
8. Guardian (-)
9. Grumpy Old Bastards (Grumpy) (-6)
10. The Immortals (TI) (-1)
11. The Fighting Pacifists (TFP) (-1)
12. The Golden Horde (TGH) (N/A)
13. The Sword Coast (TSC) (N/A)
14. Camelot (🐲) (N/A)
15. Legion of Dawn (LoD) (N/A)
16. Weaponized Assault Penguins (WAP) (N/A)
17. Church of Atom (CoA) (N/A)
18.  Weebunism (💮) (-3)
19. House Stark (HS) (-1)
20. United Purple Nations (UPN) (-)
21. Dark Brotherhood (DB) (-)
22. World Task Force (WTF) (N/A)
23. The Legion (SPQR) (-)
24. The Lost Mines (TLM) (N/A)
25. Arrgh (Hatebi) (N/A)

 

April's rankings saw a lot of newcomers! A surprising amount of new alliances make it into this month's MPPR. Quite a bit of movement in one month's time. Our experts have been fully tuned in and have a clear understanding on the political climate. No time away from the grind in this corner of Orbis, no sir! That is why we bring you the MPPR each and every month!

TKR & friends see a massive slide due to their current FA situation they find themselves in. Rose (the ever-aggressive, malicious and provocative bunch) climbs the rankings via pure fear and obviously not due to their situation/size/FA position. Meanwhile Eclipse goes to the top by being the most friendly bunch in all of Orbis. They even facilitated more Global peace with no plans of laying the smack down on any other party. Such a thoughtful bunch deserves the #1 slot.

May should be an eventful month, can't wait to see what it brings!

[SleepingNinja]

Does this mean Kev is back? 😁

[Kevanovia]

On 7/8/2022 at 12:04 AM, Thalmor said:

This is cool. Keep doing this. 

30 minutes ago, SleepingNinja said:

Does this mean Kev is back? 😁

(Apologies...this gif was apparently created by ants)

Edited April 27 by Kevanovia

[Kurdanak]

Kev posting monthly updates like when I say to someone that I'll respond to their DM in "the next few days"

Edited April 28 by Kurdanak

[Kevanovia]

May Monthly Political Power Rankings (MPPR)
(Month 6)

 

1. Eclipse (☾) (-)
2.  Rose (🌹)(-)
3. The Syndicate (t$) (+1)
4. Singularity (SIN) (-1)
5. Event Horizon (-)
6. The Knights Radiant (TKR) (-)
7. Knights Templar (KT) (-)
8. Guardian (-)
9. The Fighting Pacifists (TFP) (+2)
10. The Golden Horde (TGH) (+2)
11. Grumpy Old Bastards (Grumpy) (-2)
12. The Immortals (TI) (-2)
13. The Sword Coast (TSC) (-)
14. Camelot (🐲) (-)
15. Weaponized Assault Penguins (WAP) (+1)
16. Dark Brotherhood (DB) (+5)
17. Legion of Dawn (LoD) (-2)
18.  Church of Atom (-1)
19. United Purple Nations (UPN) (+1)
20. World Task Force (WTF) (+1)
21.  Weebunism (💮) (-3)
22. House Stark (HS) (-3)
23. The Legion (SPQR) (-)
24. The Lost Mines (TLM) (-)
25. Arrgh (Hatebi) (-)

 

Unfortunately instead of celebrating AA's moving up due to positive performances, we find most of the movement in this month's MPPR is due to the disappointing turnout of select parties.

This war put TKR & friends in a tough spot. Even with the tall climb facing them, a lot of their allies were facing a 'prove-it' moment. Grumpy has had a rough war, however TI's performance has overshadowed Grumpy's underwhelming display. For as long as I can remember, TI has been thought of as an alliance that could turn the corner (imo, this thought is partially based on the leadership of Tyrion). However, time and time again they turn into a pumpkin and seem to be the Pantheon of this era (albeit, with less coups). A disappointing blitz, low wars declared per member and lack of follow through on the spy game contribute to a fall in the rankings. Although TSC didn't necessarily blow it out of the water with their performance in this conflict, the performance was enough to give them a bit of a leash for their first war.

On the other side of the coin, we have House Stark. HS appears to have had a rough time for quite a few years. Similar to TI, they have a decent leader in Ataxia, but the rest of the pieces don't seem to be there. Weeb & LoD seems to be in a similar boat. Maybe their long term members just don't have the time to dedicate to Orbis but oooof. LoD performing poorly at least makes sense considering the AA's that came together to form it (TCW/Fark).

Dark Brotherhood had a good turnout for war participation. One could argue that it's not too tough to jump in on a dog pile, selling down infra (which they should be dogged for) and declaring wars - but at least they have members declaring wars.

Let's see what June brings!

Edited May 25 by Kevanovia

[Anarchist Empire]

If TKR were on my side hitting Dawn, then feel like TKR/House would win & losing wouldn't be an option. However since we're not coordinated & not sure what they're thinking, both just doing our thing. However they just need to be strong, adapt between nuking and conventional.

Even from no military still declaring wars I expect to win. Even from zero military pretty sure will defeat both at war with now still. Good time to raid, fighting Dawn or not. lol

[Cypher]

8 minutes ago, Anarchist Empire said:

If TKR were on my side hitting Dawn, then feel like TKR/House would win & losing wouldn't be an option. However since we're not coordinated & not sure what they're thinking, both just doing our thing. However they just need to be strong, adapt between nuking and conventional.

Even from no military still declaring wars I expect to win. Even from zero military pretty sure will defeat both at war with now still. Good time to raid, fighting Dawn or not. lol

@Adrienne I can’t believe we didn’t think about merging coalitions with Methrage. What could have been…

[Anarchist Empire]

6 minutes ago, Cypher said:

@Adrienne I can’t believe we didn’t think about merging coalitions with Methrage. What could have been…

You're fighting Dawn and MM who were fighting us, but doesn't really mean we're on the same side. Probably better I'm free to act completely independent and raid whoever.

[Lysander]

And I thought I was the one who pushed propaganda! 10/10

[Kevanovia]

2 hours ago, Anarchist Empire said:

If TKR were on my side hitting Dawn, then feel like TKR/House would win & losing wouldn't be an option. However since we're not coordinated & not sure what they're thinking, both just doing our thing. However they just need to be strong, adapt between nuking and conventional.

Even from no military still declaring wars I expect to win. Even from zero military pretty sure will defeat both at war with now still. Good time to raid, fighting Dawn or not. lol

[Anarchist Empire]

26 minutes ago, Kevanovia said:

I'm not completely sure, since haven't paid to renew card for many years. However head shop says its the good stuff, with whatever cannabinoids. Do expect it fully legal soon. Radidation has already killed my food production, should see if food can be driven up in cost.

Edited May 26 by Anarchist Empire

[Jesus Prime]

@Kevanovia Does Antarctica have any political power? 

[Jacob Knox]

1 hour ago, Jesus Prime said:

@Kevanovia Does Antarctica have any political power? 

No, not really. Though I will say they've shown relatively respectable growth and even some reformation (as far as I know) since the days of when I thought they would probably die quickly.

[Kevanovia]

13 hours ago, Jesus Prime said:

@Kevanovia Does Antarctica have any political power? 

Not as it sits currently. I don't believe they have much (if any) influence.

At first glance, they have 2 people listed as gov in-game with 109 members. Typically you see this when the gov is weak, or there isn't a lot of trust between leadership and the rest of the staff. The AA is also running 0% Taxes - as a non-raiding AA, this is a bold move that will likely not pan out in their benefit. 10% nations on grey/the AA appears to be a favorite raid target for pirates.

Maybe it's a fun community, but they currently have no impact on the political landscape. Maybe in time that will change. Good luck to you and your group!

[Buorhann]

DB has performed a lot better than it's history.  I'm not much of a stickler on selling infra, just as long as members show up to fight.  Shows a unified front if their members sell Infra for better military standing while fighting, so that's honestly impressive there.  They did a complete 180 turnaround here, even if it's in a dogpile.  Hopefully they learn from this for future conflicts.

TI is terrible.  Even with the knowledge of the war coming up, they still didn't show up.  How do you fumble that?  And holy hell, look at some of their nations bleeding loot.  Why haven't they changed their taxes to stop the bleeding if their nations aren't going to fight?

Grumpy is very disappointing.  I could rant on about them.  They had a promising showing initially, but fumbled it because they didn't stick around to counter.  Could've kept that upper tier if they persisted, but nope.  Just tapped right on out mostly.  What's the point of a 0 tax alliance if you're not going to fight for it?  They've pretty much gave up the upper/whale tier fight to their rivals, and with other AAs growing their own whale tier now - Grumpy will be left in the dust sooner or later.

WAP was doing pretty good initially, but they could've declared more wars.  Granted they're on the dogpile side, so maybe it was tough for them to snatch up slots.

TKR, as usual, doing alright given they're having to carry their side and fight against another dogpile.  Plus it seems they're target #1 due to their ability to fight.  Better to focus on pinning them down since their allies aren't doing much.

TSC could do much better, but only a handful of them are trying to put up a fight.  The rest seemed to have given up.  I see you @Ronjoy Tehmina, you're doing a damn good job there sir.


You'd think with some of these AAs chest puffing over their Protectorates or just handling FA, they'd fight way better in a war or at least put in an attempt.  A lot of AAs here are really subpar, even on the dogpile side.

Edited June 2 by Buorhann

[Panky]

55 minutes ago, Buorhann said:

dogpile

I hope the next war TGH goes in has completely even numbers dude...

There was like a 2% difference at the beginning in the mid-tier and like a 15% advantage in the high mid-tier for WELP when comparing effective military strength by the score ranges.

One of the closest wars in Orbis history and probably the closest war that's going to happen in the next 2 years... 

Dogpile 🤣

[Ronjoy Tehmina]

1 hour ago, Buorhann said:

I'm surprised LoD isn't lower.  Have you ever talked to hamer?  Dude is a genius.  /sarcasm   Plus LoD is just performing bad, lol.

DB has performed a lot better than it's history.  I'm not much of a stickler on selling infra, just as long as members show up to fight.  Shows a unified front if their members sell Infra for better military standing while fighting, so that's honestly impressive there.  They did a complete 180 turnaround here, even if it's in a dogpile.  Hopefully they learn from this for future conflicts.

TI is terrible.  Even with the knowledge of the war coming up, they still didn't show up.  How do you fumble that?  And holy hell, look at some of their nations bleeding loot.  Why haven't they changed their taxes to stop the bleeding if their nations aren't going to fight?

Grumpy is very disappointing.  I could rant on about them.  They had a promising showing initially, but fumbled it because they didn't stick around to counter.  Could've kept that upper tier if they persisted, but nope.  Just tapped right on out mostly.  What's the point of a 0 tax alliance if you're not going to fight for it?  They've pretty much gave up the upper/whale tier fight to their rivals, and with other AAs growing their own whale tier now - Grumpy will be left in the dust sooner or later.

WAP was doing pretty good initially, but they could've declared more wars.  Granted they're on the dogpile side, so maybe it was tough for them to snatch up slots.

TKR, as usual, doing alright given they're having to carry their side and fight against another dogpile.  Plus it seems they're target #1 due to their ability to fight.  Better to focus on pinning them down since their allies aren't doing much.

TSC could do much better, but only a handful of them are trying to put up a fight.  The rest seemed to have given up.  I see you @Ronjoy Tehmina, you're doing a damn good job there sir.


You'd think with some of these AAs chest puffing over their Protectorates or just handling FA, they'd fight way better in a war or at least put in an attempt.  A lot of AAs here are really subpar, even on the dogpile side.

Why thank you good sir! Aim to please!

But I think TSC is doing better than what you are arguing. The machine may have started running a bit later than expected, but I think it is running well now. We are raking net positives for the past few days. 

[Tartarus]

8 hours ago, Kevanovia said:

Not as it sits currently. I don't believe they have much (if any) influence.

At first glance, they have 2 people listed as gov in-game with 109 members. Typically you see this when the gov is weak, or there isn't a lot of trust between leadership and the rest of the staff. The AA is also running 0% Taxes - as a non-raiding AA, this is a bold move that will likely not pan out in their benefit. 10% nations on grey/the AA appears to be a favorite raid target for pirates.

Maybe it's a fun community, but they currently have no impact on the political landscape. Maybe in time that will change. Good luck to you and your group!

They're also a discordless community, so its more of a refugee haven lol

[Kevanovia]

4 hours ago, Panky said:

I hope the next war TGH goes in has completely even numbers dude...

There was like a 2% difference at the beginning in the mid-tier and like a 15% advantage in the high mid-tier for WELP when comparing effective military strength by the score ranges.

One of the closest wars in Orbis history and probably the closest war that's going to happen in the next 2 years... 

Dogpile 🤣

Yeah, I don't think the initial war was much of a dogpile. This is, on paper, one of the more even fights we've had in quite some time. Too bad it turned the way it did after the performances we got from some of TKR's allies. 'Skill Dogpile' - @penpiko

My comment was directed to the alliances that had allies that came in well after the war - The folks on RON have helped me see the light, and I will change my verbiage to 'bandwagon'. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Tune in next month for another addition of MPPR.

[Buorhann]

5 hours ago, Panky said:

I hope the next war TGH goes in has completely even numbers dude...

There's literally only been one war in TGH's history where we dogpiled an AA.  An AA that deserved it.  And it only lasted 2 weeks.

Outside of that, we've had a long history of fighting against the numbers.

[Kan0601]

On 5/27/2024 at 5:58 AM, Buorhann said:

I'm surprised LoD isn't lower.  Have you ever talked to hamer?  Dude is a genius.  /sarcasm   Plus LoD is just performing bad, lol.

DB has performed a lot better than it's history.  I'm not much of a stickler on selling infra, just as long as members show up to fight.  Shows a unified front if their members sell Infra for better military standing while fighting, so that's honestly impressive there.  They did a complete 180 turnaround here, even if it's in a dogpile.  Hopefully they learn from this for future conflicts.

TI is terrible.  Even with the knowledge of the war coming up, they still didn't show up.  How do you fumble that?  And holy hell, look at some of their nations bleeding loot.  Why haven't they changed their taxes to stop the bleeding if their nations aren't going to fight?

Grumpy is very disappointing.  I could rant on about them.  They had a promising showing initially, but fumbled it because they didn't stick around to counter.  Could've kept that upper tier if they persisted, but nope.  Just tapped right on out mostly.  What's the point of a 0 tax alliance if you're not going to fight for it?  They've pretty much gave up the upper/whale tier fight to their rivals, and with other AAs growing their own whale tier now - Grumpy will be left in the dust sooner or later.

WAP was doing pretty good initially, but they could've declared more wars.  Granted they're on the dogpile side, so maybe it was tough for them to snatch up slots.

TKR, as usual, doing alright given they're having to carry their side and fight against another dogpile.  Plus it seems they're target #1 due to their ability to fight.  Better to focus on pinning them down since their allies aren't doing much.

TSC could do much better, but only a handful of them are trying to put up a fight.  The rest seemed to have given up.  I see you @Ronjoy Tehmina, you're doing a damn good job there sir.


You'd think with some of these AAs chest puffing over their Protectorates or just handling FA, they'd fight way better in a war or at least put in an attempt.  A lot of AAs here are really subpar, even on the dogpile side.

How did you come to the conclusion that LoD is just bad? Like I get our net isn’t great but we are 3rd most damage plus we have the 2nd most def war we got targeted hard this war and net is more because we had higher infra so we took a lot of damage too.