Who Me Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 39 minutes ago, Vexz said: but better to salvage something that wasn't working than to lead it to a painful death. So Rose is disbanding then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pubstomper Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Who Me said: So Rose is disbanding then? not until I'm leader againย 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Adrienne said: Your new bloc existed for what? 2 months? And through zero wars? And you were so demoralized by one alliance leaving, you felt the need to start over? That's the best argument I've heard for why Rose couldn't be considered competitive. Congrats. ย 7 hours ago, Adrienne said: I expected better for a clap back, Vexz. Using that tired old narrative that wasn't even relevant to what we were talking about was uninspired. I did appreciate the sex joke about t$ though. I was rather sad to have realized I missed out on a rather spectacular one. Mile High Club... prematurely ending... I'll let you figure it out ๐ Neither duration of existence of former bloc nor number of wars fought with it are metrics that have any bearing on the merits of our signing. It is not tkr's place to dictate the morality of said metrics. Your other stated points regarding TS and rose being principle drivers and our treaty therefore being immoral is frankly undone by your standing treaty with GG. I will advise my government to simply ignore it as what it is- a flimsy justification of your outrage over the existence of a similarly tiered grouping. The bloc is here. It's competitive. It'sย not dominant or game breaking. It breaks an old rivalry and shapes a new tie. Ive yet to hear a solid argument as to why it's a horrible thing that doesn't reek of cognitive dissonance. 1 1 2 Quote ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Edit: Where are my manners. Congratulations on the new family. Best wishes, Lulu ViBri ย From a 4th party's perspective it seems:ย Hollywood ....is trying to compete to be the top political and military force in the game and... ....is threatened by Celestial and so are trying to tar and isolate the bloc straight from the jump as a threat to the game (to them) to justify future antagonism (explicit here on the forums or in backchannels) and deflect from their own strengths Celestial ...is trying to compete to be the top political and military force in the game and... ....felt inadequate in their former affiliations in comparison to the other predominate entities and is willing to make the practical moves to compensate while threading the needle for acceptable force consolidation. Willing to deal with (both meanings of the phrase) whoever they need to accomplish their goals.ย Clock Block ...is trying to compete to be the top political and military force in the game and... ...is also threatened by the formation of Celestial but is seeing the war of words between Hollywood and Celestial and are letting the two focus on each other while positioning to be a potential kingmaker. Thus in a real sense cultivating the most advantageous (long term) positionย of the three (at least initially)ย From this point of view, the agendas of each grouping are clear and this back and forth and song and dance is just theater. I'm not one to rob the stage of content, but please at least have the contributions actually be entertaining. Some of these posts are just bad.ย Michaan at least is coming through with some memes and the girls are catfighting. That's been about the best so far (oh and Vanek is had a good post too)ย ย Edited March 16, 2022 by Lelouch 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Lelouch said: Edit: Where are my manners. Congratulations on the new family. Best wishes, Lulu ViBri ย From a 4th party's perspective it seems:ย Hollywood ....is trying to compete to be the top political and military force in the game and... ....is threatened by Celestial and so are trying to tar and isolate the bloc straight from the jump as a threat to the game (to them) to justify future antagonism (explicit here on the forums or in backchannels) and deflect from their own strengths Celestial ...is trying to compete to be the top political and military force in the game and... ....felt inadequate in their former affiliations in comparison to the other predominate entities and is willing to make the practical moves to compensate while threading the needle for acceptable force consolidation. Willing to deal with (both meanings of the phrase) whoever they need to accomplish their goals.ย Clock Block ...is trying to compete to be the top political and military force in the game and... ...is also threatened by the formation of Celestial but is seeing the war of words between Hollywood and Celestial and are letting the two focus on each other while positioning to be a potential kingmaker. Thus in a real sense cultivating the most advantageous (long term) positionย of the three (at least initially)ย From this point of view, the agendas of each grouping are clear and this back and forth and song and dance is just theater. I'm not one to rob the stage of content, but please at least have the contributions actually be entertaining. Some of these posts are just bad.ย Michaan at least is coming through with some memes and the girls are catfighting. That's been about the best so far (oh and Vanek is had a good post too)ย ย I'm not a girl. Quote ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firwof Kromwell Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Adrienne said: I expected better for a clap back, Vexz. Using that tired old narrative that wasn't even relevant to what we were talking about was uninspired. I did appreciate the sex joke about t$ though. I was rather sad to have realized I missed out on a rather spectacular one. Mile High Club... prematurely ending... I'll let you figure it out ๐ Just like The Rolling Stones, Rose was to uneager to contentment after enduring such frustration. Then again, they must have a low drive due to what it takes to drop, switch, & sign I guess. More friends with benefits & one night stands than anyone else, even at a relatively cheap rate too!ย ย Edited March 16, 2022 by Firwof Kromwell Then again, it only took one bad week for Sydni to wanna do something anew. Both must been desperate thou, since they most likely never talked about each other's trust issues of different sorts. Quote ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย I personally voice my ownย thought processes based on own desires of informational curiosity as well love for discussion based on questions & statements I made rather just trusting info like a collective hivemind Onlookers whom hop aboard the brainless bandwagon refusing inter-articulation based on assumed feelings, go give yo balls a tug ya tit fuggerย ย ย ย ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Prefonteen said: ย Neither duration of existence of former bloc nor number of wars fought with it are metrics that have any bearing on the merits of our signing. It is not tkr's place to dictate the morality of said metrics. Your other stated points regarding TS and rose being principle drivers and our treaty therefore being immoral is frankly undone by your standing treaty with GG. I will advise my government to simply ignore it as what it is- a flimsy justification of your outrage over the existence of a similarly tiered grouping. The bloc is here. It's competitive. It'sย not dominant or game breaking. It breaks an old rivalry and shapes a new tie. Ive yet to hear a solid argument as to why it's a horrible thing that doesn't reek of cognitive dissonance. Never thought I'd see the day Parti responded to shitposts - ones not even directed at him - with seriousness. And you entirely missed the point too. Morality? No one said anything about morality. You're losing your touch, old man. You want serioustalk, go chat with Morf instead of bringing his points to my posts. I fulfilled my obligation in our embassy already. ๐ Edited March 16, 2022 by Adrienne 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Adrienne said: Never thought I'd see the day Parti responded to shitposts - ones not even directed at him - with seriousness. And you entirely missed the point too. Morality? No one said anything about morality. You're losing your touch, old man. You want serioustalk, go chat with Morf instead of bringing his points to my posts. I fulfilled my obligation in our embassy already. ๐ย I hold you accountable for morf Quote ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Prefonteen said: I hold you accountable for morf I thought that was @Benfro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJinx Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 3:12 PM, Darth Ataxia said: Stop, you're going to give our position away to the Johnsons HEY! We heard that! That's it, @Jacob Appleย When we rolling them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJinx Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) On 3/13/2022 at 6:10 AM, Firwof Kromwell said: All you are doing alongside other Ro$e gov is making redirective understatements. Trying to spin a point with counter persuasive ideas that in turn prove people like Pascals point further rather than disprove nor work around it. ย For example, ya lot in Celestial too also keep mentioning war losses as well tiering. First off, HW's loss did happen a few months back, while the BW loss was within the past month while only taking part in dogpiles in there favor since NPOLT. Rose on the other hand has basically lost almost every war back to back since NPOLT as well doing similar aspects in dogpiling which ended up backfiring a couple times. On tiering, as much as yall deny, the main focus of tier growth was c20-40, c20-30 is where TKR & Guard mainly tiers to while Grumpy goes around to c30-40. Coincidence?ย There he is! There's my favorite firwof! Still as naive as ever, Huh old friend?(My not here supporting the move, Im just here to call out firwof ;)) Edited March 16, 2022 by JustJinx just making sure people know i dont support the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firwof Kromwell Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JustJinx said: There he is! There's my favorite firwof! Still as naive as ever, Huh old friend?(My not here supporting the move, Im just here to call out firwof ;)) Similar goes for you as what I said above, took one major conflict of interest after which you flipped. Instead of working though, you just decided it was best to to disconnect furthermore lash out whenever possible. Thus in the end is more immature due to the unwilling inability to work through drama in a positively constructive direction, even if it hurts. Aside that, leave this outside of this thread, it's only derailing it so only focus on what's been at hand, not what hurts your Rainbow-washed mind. Edited March 17, 2022 by Firwof Kromwell Plus, you didn't call me out on anything as well explain why it's call out. It's more a poor attempt to bait, flame, & troll based off of what you feel while copping out with something that you feel justifies it which was mainly "Cuz he's Firwof".Git gud Quote ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย I personally voice my ownย thought processes based on own desires of informational curiosity as well love for discussion based on questions & statements I made rather just trusting info like a collective hivemind Onlookers whom hop aboard the brainless bandwagon refusing inter-articulation based on assumed feelings, go give yo balls a tug ya tit fuggerย ย ย ย ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firwof Kromwell Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 2:27 PM, Micchan said: Ayy yo,where can I find dat mega Twinkie?! Quote ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย I personally voice my ownย thought processes based on own desires of informational curiosity as well love for discussion based on questions & statements I made rather just trusting info like a collective hivemind Onlookers whom hop aboard the brainless bandwagon refusing inter-articulation based on assumed feelings, go give yo balls a tug ya tit fuggerย ย ย ย ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avakael Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I spent a week in Rose, it was basically just t$ with chess tournaments. This bloc makes perfect sense to me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingNinja Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Adrienne said: I thought that was @Benfro if there's 1 thing I learned from our time playing Among us together.. when in doubt, blame Adri.ย โค๏ธ๐ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 1:20 PM, Key said: Did this narrative stick or the ones the TKR/HW mother!@#$ers are throwing? Are they the same? What's the move @Key? On 3/16/2022 at 6:55 PM, Avakael said: I spent a week in Rose, it was basically just t$ with chess tournaments. This bloc makes perfect sense to me. Cut from the same cloth that you used to lead betchย ๐ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Keynes Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) On 3/19/2022 at 1:55 AM, Eumirbago said: Did this narrative stick or the ones the TKR/HW mother!@#$ers are throwing? Are they the same? What's the move @Key? Cut from the same cloth that you used to lead betchย ๐ The moves which caused 2 of the Top 3 alliances to be part of the same sphere. Thus, it reminded me much of Quack and the narrative pretty much stuck. Also, I said a long time ago in RON that minispheres would never work.ย That everyone would use them for their own advantage and have secret backroom deals. But no one listened. Everyone has gone back in circles.ย I respect the formation of Celestial and it's awesome to see two powerhouses work together again. However, foes will use this move as an excuse to push their own narratives. Edited March 21, 2022 by Key 1 Quote ย My opinion may not reflect those of my alliance or its affiliates. Please read at your own discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Key said: The moves which caused 2 of the Top 3 alliances to be part of the same sphere. Thus, it reminded me much of Quack and the narrative pretty much stuck among Hollywood. Also, I said a long time ago in RON that minispheres would never work.ย That everyone would use them for their own advantage and have secret backroom deals. But no one listened. Everyone has gone back in circles.ย I respect the formation of Celestial and it's awesome to see two powerhouses work together again. However, foes will use this move as an excuse to push their own narratives. Did this stick or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avakael Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 5:25 PM, Eumirbago said: Cut from the same cloth that you used to lead betchย ๐ I don't encourage comparing t$ to MI6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Key said: The moves which caused 2 of the Top 3 alliances to be part of the same sphere. Thus, it reminded me much of Quack and the narrative pretty much stuck among Hollywood. Also, I said a long time ago in RON that minispheres would never work.ย That everyone would use them for their own advantage and have secret backroom deals. But no one listened. Everyone has gone back in circles.ย I respect the formation of Celestial and it's awesome to see two powerhouses work together again. However, foes will use this move as an excuse to push their own narratives. Multi-spheres =/= multi-polarity. It's the fatal flaw which those inclined to support multi-spheres ignored despite the obvious flaws being readily visible the entire time. Celestial's formation is simply the inevitable consequence of causation and escalation. Edited March 20, 2022 by Charles Bolivar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Keynes Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 1:17 PM, Eumirbago said: Did this stick or no? Did you read my post? Quote ย My opinion may not reflect those of my alliance or its affiliates. Please read at your own discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 2:17 PM, Eumirbago said: Did this stick or no? Hey! its good to see you back on the forums.ย I thought you may have quit the game after that last war and I didn't see you posting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) On 3/21/2022 at 5:56 AM, Sweeeeet Ronny D said: Hey! its good to see you back on the forums.ย I thought you may have quit the game after that last war and I didn't see you posting. Alas we not in school anymore big boi, we canโt afford to care as much as we did before I come in and out the game just as much t$ switches hands ๐ I post just like you! All depending on political position ๐ Edited March 24, 2022 by Eumirbago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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