Popular Post Peacockpenguin Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) https://imgur.com/a/RMspp We are Lard-err-onn and we view The Fighting Pacifists to be living breathing oxymorons. Minus the oxy. Wordplay is confusing for us. Are you pacifists or do you like to fight or are you people who know how to fight but don't like to fight or do you really like to fight but are really pretending to not like to fight to avoid wars? Are you guys the new version of the GPA? I'm not sure about any of this. All I know is that we have headaches every time we see that phrase, "The Fighting Pacifists." We officially declare war on our headaches and the cause of them. You are the disease, we are the cure. Edit: VP is part of it too. They're like a gatorade after a long night of drinking. Edited January 5, 2017 by Peacockpenguin 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Watch out, Lordaeron, you'll get the Orbis police to come after you next for some reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James XVI Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) o/ to war as a substitute for paracetamol Don't close the blast doors to your heart or something Edited January 5, 2017 by James XVI Quote THE Definitive James: KastorCultist, Co-leading Roz Wei Empyrea The Wei, former TGH warrior, Assassin, and a few more. Player of this game for more time than I want to think about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Isnt it Lord a-aron? 1 Quote “ Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. †–The First Ideal of the Windrunners, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woot Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Who is Lorderron? Is this a DoE? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacockpenguin Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Isnt it Lord a-aron? Lard-err-onn during war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peacockpenguin Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Who is Lorderron? Is this a DoE? Lard-err-onn* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RightHonorable Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 So the volitility on Orbis continues. Anyhow, best of luck to both combatants and happy hunting everyone. 2 Quote Haatyc or'arue jate'shya ori'sol aru'ike nuhaatyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNG Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 We are Lard-err-onn and we view The Fighting Pacifists to be living breathing oxymorons. Minus the oxy. Wordplay is confusing for us. Are you pacifists or do you like to fight or are you people who know how to fight but don't like to fight or do you really like to fight but are really pretending to not like to fight to avoid wars? Are you guys the new version of the GPA? I'm not sure about any of this. All I know is that we have headaches every time we see that phrase, "The Fighting Pacifists." We officially declare war on our headaches and the cause of them. You are the disease, we are the cure. Show me on the doll where TFP touched you please. Happy hunting Lordaeron 1 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 How long were you saving that? Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 How long were you saving that? I stole it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vonnorman Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 GO MAP!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 <insert some witty meme> Military exercises are fun. Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post durmij Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 If anyone wants to hit lordaeron without Rose intervening, just cite TFP defense. As long as you do it in under 168 days you're good. 16 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 If anyone wants to hit lordaeron without Rose intervening, just cite TFP defense. As long as you do it in under 168 days you're good. Only the best times. Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguar Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It would have been easier if you just took one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsi Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Greetings from Luviel in Vox Populi. Edited January 5, 2017 by Kelsi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yes! You must fight them with name-brand asprins! Quote This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Greetings from Luviel in Vox Populi. Let us introduce them to Socialism. Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacockpenguin Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 It would have been easier if you just took one of these. Whats an ass-per-inme? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sea Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Well, shit. This is annoying. Now then, on to the far more important thing. DEFINITION TIME "Pacifism is a commitment to peace and opposition to war. Our ordinary language allows a diverse set of beliefs and commitments to be held together under the general rubric of pacifism. This article will explain the family resemblance among the variety of pacifisms. It will locate pacifism within deontological and consequentialist approaches to ethics. And it will consider and reply to objections to pacifism. The word “pacifism†is derived from the word “pacific,†which means “peace making†[Latin, paci- (from pax) meaning “peace†and -ficus meaning “makingâ€]. Pacifism in the West appears to begin with Christianity. Perhaps the most famous use of the word pacifism is found in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5), where Jesus claims that the “peacemakers†are blessed. In this passage, the Greek word eirenopoios is translated into Latin as pacifici, which means those who work for peace. The Greek eirenopoios is derived from the Greek eirênê [peace] in conjunction with poiesis [to make]." https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pacifism/ 1. opposition to war or violence of any kind. 2. refusal to engage in military activity because of one's principles or beliefs. 3. the principle or policy that all differences among nations should be adjusted without recourse to war. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pacifism 1: opposition to war or violence as a means of settling disputes; specifically : refusal to bear arms on moral or religious grounds 2: an attitude or policy of nonresistance https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pacifism the belief that any violence, including war, is unjustifiable under any circumstances, and that all disputes should be settled by peaceful means. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+pacifism ON TO THE ISSUE So. Fighting Pacifists. Is that an oxymoron? (I'm not defining fighting because if you don't know what that means you're beyond hope.) Stanford's philosophy dictionary would say no, as one can still engage in something that they oppose. Additionally, we still have a commitment to peace, as we still want peace and aren't warmongering twats unlike Lord A-A-ron. Dictionary.com's definitions pose only a problem with #2, as 1 is the same as above, and 3 is something we want but clearly something that won't happen. (Declaring war because of an oxymoron rather than asking for clarification shows your incompetence at diplomacy.) Merriam-Webster's Dictionary also has a similar case for us, with opposition being violateable, considering you declared war on us. #2 provides a problem, again. And Google's definition -- this war is unjustifiable. It's absolutely stupid. This could have been settled peacefully. So. Back to the the two #2s. Together, they say that pacifism is an act of refusal to engage in military activity due to beliefs, and that it's an attitude OR policy of nonresistance; that is, not fighting. And, many arguments: 1. More definitions lean to an opposition rather than outright refusal. 2. The first part of the definition has to do with an individual, not a nation, as a nation has overall principles but still has to engage in military activity of some kind, even if that activity is being curbstomped by another army, as that IS military. 3. We have an attitude of nonresistance but still will fight. 4. The entire definition has to do with the individual, as a nation only exists through resistance. Without resistance, nation becomes Somalia. Additionally, geography resists people and geography is part of a nation. 5. The game's mechanics literally have resistance, therefore we have to dismiss an impossible definition. Now then. Organizations can't completely enforce ideals upon their members, however hard they try. (See: Martin Luther and that entire Reformation thing.) As long as one nation does not resist, the name is true. And, just like any other organization, we don't embrace all forms of it. Most people love democracies, but won't accept a democratic form involving only 20 people of an entire nation (Or say, security, but not Big Brother-esque surveillance.) We embrace a policy of non-aggression and diplomacy before hostile and violent action is taken. We want to negotiate for peace rather than fight it out to see who gets what. In short, we embrace pacifism. Not ultra-hardcore pacifism, but pacifism nonetheless. TL;DR It's not an oxymoron you !@#$wit! Nonresistance pacifism applies to the individual, not the state; there are many forms of pacifism, you can't say the US isn't democratic because it's not a direct democracy, it's just slightly less than one. Plus, we still oppose war and think it's unjustifiable, but when something is started by another, it's not like we have a choice on participation. Finally, on fighting: Fighting could be debate and therefore non-violent. Even if it is violent, it's in reference to our willingness to fight in order to preserve our future peace and preserve our ability to negotiate. Concessions have to be made in order to preserve future value. Thanks for reading, I know this is an absurd amount of text, but I'm bored and can't sleep. Edited January 5, 2017 by Sea 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kurdanak Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I'm not above k-gif'ing my own allies. Edited January 5, 2017 by Kurdanak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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