Popular Post Dr James Wilson Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 I've never seen a group of people so angry at being rescued from a beatdown that they deserved and basically begged for. 3 5 Quote The Volleyball Avanti ..one, two, Jimmy's coming for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl von Badnerland Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Edit: removed aa advertising Edited April 21 by TollerNamen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diocletian Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 17 hours ago, Jesus Prime said: Off my way to C21 Antarctica is a fun AA to casually raid. 1 2 Quote "The happiness of the people, and the peace of the empire, and the glory of the reign are linked with the fortune of the Army." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diocletian Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 16 hours ago, Buorhann said: Nukes and Missiles do damage just as well as Conventional Military does nowadays, if not better. The game is literally catering to nation turrets. I'd actually argue that nuke/missiles is the way to go. Considering there's that stupid +250% warscore up declare change. Facts. Especially with the newest two projects combined with the leading macro gov officials building 3k+ infra cities. We here in 99A sure do have a particular fondness for our nukes, and missiles to a slightly lesser extent. That said, opportunities will always present themselves to those with happy thoughts 😏 Quote "The happiness of the people, and the peace of the empire, and the glory of the reign are linked with the fortune of the Army." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 14 hours ago, Buorhann said: Where's the lie, exactly? There's a lot of context not being mentioned in this thread. The lie is that House-SAIL-Eclipse were in serious talks about a NAP, and that TKR was leading the charge on this, or that anyone in our bloc even agreed to anything more than listening to someone else's pitch. It wasn't us who pitched the idea, and it died in DM's within a very short conversation. I've brought it up in private with many already, but this just flatly was not a thing that was happening. It wasn't even a backup plan, it was just a pitched thought that never went anywhere after one discussion. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Knox Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Hang on did we just witness TKR and Singularity already begin making up after being at each other's throats for a minute there? No, we can't let this happen. Make them fight again! Quote Federation of Knox Enlightened of Chaos, Event Horizon QA Team and API Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi Jinping Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I would like to thank everyone for the most interesting forum post I've bothered to read through fully in awhile. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Jacob Knox said: Hang on did we just witness TKR and Singularity already begin making up after being at each other's throats for a minute there? No, we can't let this happen. Make them fight again! TKR smell bad Adrienne has poo on head Benfro stink of fish 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themonia Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/20/2024 at 4:48 PM, Who Me said: Why didn't you then? As someone who was SIN's enemy in the war, "why didn't they keep fighting after we pulled out" is a very stupid argument to make. It's completely understandable that the half-milled SIN at the time would want to settle on whatever they could get if the larger of their sphere allies pulled out. Enlarging the war to include Rose (and not ODOO) and WELP while SAIL was already comfortably sitting on CIS means it would go even more favorably in SAIL's favor. Rose died at the hands of WELP instantly, even while SAIL was being focused by ODOO. 2 Quote Take no comment seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Prime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 5 hours ago, Diocletian said: Antarctica is a fun AA to casually raid. Which tier we always like to improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thalmor Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, Xi Jinping said: I would like to thank everyone for the most interesting forum post I've bothered to read through fully in awhile. THE FORUMS HAVE BEEN RESURRECTED, BUT AT WHAT COST???? 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Me Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 31 minutes ago, Themonia said: As someone who was SIN's enemy in the war, "why didn't they keep fighting after we pulled out" is a very stupid argument to make. It's completely understandable that the half-milled SIN at the time would want to settle on whatever they could get if the larger of their sphere allies pulled out. Enlarging the war to include Rose (and not ODOO) and WELP while SAIL was already comfortably sitting on CIS means it would go even more favorably in SAIL's favor. Rose died at the hands of WELP instantly, even while SAIL was being focused by ODOO. Ah, but you see, in this very thread, Sketchy and others have stated that they didn't want to sign the NAP and they wanted to keep fighting. I have asked them several times why and they still haven't answered. They just keep deflecting the question and answering with other nonsense. So as you can see, it's not a stupid argument to make, it's just a simple question which they won't answer. I hope this clears things up for you and if not, at least I tried. Bye now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themonia Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Who Me said: Sketchy and others have stated that they didn't want to sign the NAP and they wanted to keep fighting. I have asked them several times why and they still haven't answered. They just keep deflecting the question and answering with other nonsense. So as you can see, it's not a stupid argument to make, it's just a simple question which they won't answer. Because then they would have been sat on until they surrendered and got a NAP anyway, just with harsher terms to accompany it? I'm not sure what the confusion here is stemming from, the answer should be glaringly obvious. 4 Quote Take no comment seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofa D Snuttz Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 9 hours ago, Xi Jinping said: I would like to thank everyone for the most interesting forum post I've bothered to read through fully in awhile. May peace reign for a thousand years so that this forum can mald about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Clooney Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 15 hours ago, Lion Nation said: This has become a Farmville game. This is a war game. All we do is build ,build, and feed Alex coins so we can afford food and rss. Inflation has sky rocketed, The fun in this game has hit an all time low. It's neither. Ups and downs in the price of things is also not just a natural part of the game, it's realistic. But don't worry. At some point in the not too distance future, we'll have a nice, big global war that will last too long owing to people needlessly dragging out negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Themonia said: Because then they would have been sat on until they surrendered and got a NAP anyway, just with harsher terms to accompany it? I'm not sure what the confusion here is stemming from, the answer should be glaringly obvious. He's not confused, he's just doing a bad @Eumirbagoimpression 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sketchy Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 16 hours ago, Dr James Wilson said: I've never seen a group of people so angry at being rescued from a beatdown that they deserved and basically begged for. "Rescued" ODOO set terms and conditions on us for their entry that were undoubtedly beneficial to themselves. Their entry was self interest, a prid quo pro. By that point in the war, we had already taken all the damage we were going to take. Peace negotiations with SAIL and us would have taken place and been finished well before the extended war would have, had parties remained in the coalition instead of peacing out. We could have taken a long NAP and sat and allowed for things to play out without us. It would have been more beneficial for us to do so. We opted to make a deal that would prolong the conflict we had already been fighting for 2 months (preceding 2 months of fighting others) in order to make a move that would benefit all parties, That would have committed us to at least 5 months of straight war. The assertion that we were rescued from anything is laughable. I'm not going to expand on what your terms were, despite the various wild claims being made here, but the fact is, you guys had a deal on the table that worked for you, and that is why you helped. And then you walked away from the deal. And very abruptly. We all know how much of a mess that was. As far as us being "angry" goes, I hadn't really intended to get involved in this discussion much. But certain claims were made here that required addressing, and I think it's interesting you guys have chosen to single us out, given everyone else who signed onto the nap, including alliances you claim to have good relations with, and, all in all, we owe you the least here besides perhaps Eclipse. TKR immediately planned to attack us as soon as the Fortuna war in which we fought together was over. And they did, bringing in Syndicate. That put us under a NAP cycle, the same one that prompted their entry into our war later on. TKR made a deal that, as I said earlier, was beneficial to them, in order to bring themselves in, and then when things got too hairy for them, struck a different deal behind our backs, and attempted to exclude us from the process, which would have inevitably left us in the same war they are purported to have rescued us from lmfao. These are all claims I can easily support with evidence, if I have to. Despite all this, we have not gone after or targeted you directly, this entire time. We could have easily sought revenge on TKR/ODOO for your previous attacks on us, we could have easily sought to align with people attempting to hit you this cycle, and, with this nap in place, we could easily align with the current coalition against you. Instead, we have, more than once, attempted to work with you, and find mutual common ground and cut deals with you that would work to our mutual benefit. But past behaviour is a pretty good indicator for future behaviour, and TKR has proven time and time again, that collaboration with you ends poorly for us. Perhaps you'd prefer me to sit alongside you, whisper sweet nothings in your ear, and pretend like I wasn't one of the alliances who signed onto the NAP? Given who you guys have chosen as the target of your ire here, it feels to me that you'd rather hear comfortable lies than brutal honesty. 5 1 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancelot1 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 7 hours ago, Sketchy said: "Rescued" ODOO set terms and conditions on us for their entry that were undoubtedly beneficial to themselves. Their entry was self interest, a prid quo pro. By that point in the war, we had already taken all the damage we were going to take. Peace negotiations with SAIL and us would have taken place and been finished well before the extended war would have, had parties remained in the coalition instead of peacing out. We could have taken a long NAP and sat and allowed for things to play out without us. It would have been more beneficial for us to do so. We opted to make a deal that would prolong the conflict we had already been fighting for 2 months (preceding 2 months of fighting others) in order to make a move that would benefit all parties, That would have committed us to at least 5 months of straight war. The assertion that we were rescued from anything is laughable. I'm not going to expand on what your terms were, despite the various wild claims being made here, but the fact is, you guys had a deal on the table that worked for you, and that is why you helped. And then you walked away from the deal. And very abruptly. We all know how much of a mess that was. As far as us being "angry" goes, I hadn't really intended to get involved in this discussion much. But certain claims were made here that required addressing, and I think it's interesting you guys have chosen to single us out, given everyone else who signed onto the nap, including alliances you claim to have good relations with, and, all in all, we owe you the least here besides perhaps Eclipse. TKR immediately planned to attack us as soon as the Fortuna war in which we fought together was over. And they did, bringing in Syndicate. That put us under a NAP cycle, the same one that prompted their entry into our war later on. TKR made a deal that, as I said earlier, was beneficial to them, in order to bring themselves in, and then when things got too hairy for them, struck a different deal behind our backs, and attempted to exclude us from the process, which would have inevitably left us in the same war they are purported to have rescued us from lmfao. These are all claims I can easily support with evidence, if I have to. Despite all this, we have not gone after or targeted you directly, this entire time. We could have easily sought revenge on TKR/ODOO for your previous attacks on us, we could have easily sought to align with people attempting to hit you this cycle, and, with this nap in place, we could easily align with the current coalition against you. Instead, we have, more than once, attempted to work with you, and find mutual common ground and cut deals with you that would work to our mutual benefit. But past behaviour is a pretty good indicator for future behaviour, and TKR has proven time and time again, that collaboration with you ends poorly for us. Perhaps you'd prefer me to sit alongside you, whisper sweet nothings in your ear, and pretend like I wasn't one of the alliances who signed onto the NAP? Given who you guys have chosen as the target of your ire here, it feels to me that you'd rather hear comfortable lies than brutal honesty. You guys signed a 4 month NAP following a 3.5 month NAP. As far as I know, that’s an unprecedented move, and, at best, is an extremely boring attempt to avoid having to fight wars. You then spent half of this thread claiming TKR is only mad because we were trying to get in on the deal. A claim that has been completely debunked as a lie. But you’re still trying to spin this in your favor. This was a lame and pathetic move. Just own it and say you did it for your own self interests and move on. Stop trying to justify it. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keegoz Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 49 minutes ago, lancelot1 said: You guys signed a 4 month NAP following a 3.5 month NAP. As far as I know, that’s an unprecedented move, and, at best, is an extremely boring attempt to avoid having to fight wars. You then spent half of this thread claiming TKR is only mad because we were trying to get in on the deal. A claim that has been completely debunked as a lie. But you’re still trying to spin this in your favor. This was a lame and pathetic move. Just own it and say you did it for your own self interests and move on. Stop trying to justify it. We've existed at war longer than peace. TKR started the beef here with trying to twist every fact. Is it this hard for you guys to stop with the bs? We're annoyed with the lies and the gaslighting that has been non-stop at this point. The claim hasn't been debunked btw. You guys saying it is false doesn't make it an automatic truth. We have enough evidence of TKR lying to our faces already, it's beyond pathetic and the basis of why we no longer trust you. 2 9 2 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Aurion Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 4/19/2024 at 3:39 PM, Paralaxus said: I give it a month before someone gets bored and instigates a conflict. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaChecka Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, lancelot1 said: You guys signed a 4 month NAP following a 3.5 month NAP. As far as I know, that’s an unprecedented move, and, at best, is an extremely boring attempt to avoid having to fight wars. You then spent half of this thread claiming TKR is only mad because we were trying to get in on the deal. A claim that has been completely debunked as a lie. But you’re still trying to spin this in your favor. This was a lame and pathetic move. Just own it and say you did it for your own self interests and move on. Stop trying to justify it. 2 3 2 Quote BettaChecka Nation Link High Gov Milcom - Singularity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancelot1 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Keegoz said: The claim hasn't been debunked btw. You guys saying it is false doesn't make it an automatic truth. We have enough evidence of TKR lying to our faces already, it's beyond pathetic and the basis of why we no longer trust you. It’s completely false, which has already been said multiple times in this thread. You don’t have evidence that it’s true because it is not true. You all made this deal for your own reasons. TKR was not a part of it and was never trying to be a part of it. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Holy Decagon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, lancelot1 said: It’s completely false, which has already been said multiple times in this thread. TKR was not a part of it and was never trying to be part of it *to my knowledge* “It’s completely false, and we said it a bunch- that means it’s true” I also corrected your last point for you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 Congrats to Eclipse on coming up with another inventive way to weaponize NAPs. Just when we thought we cleared the slate, you guys put this together, nice work. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vein Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said: Congrats to Eclipse on coming up with another inventive way to weaponize NAPs. Just when we thought we cleared the slate, you guys put this together, nice work. Sorry, I should of gotten an MDP treaty with rose & sail & cis instead, this is a huge blunder Edited April 22 by Vein 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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