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I'll concede that certain abstractions have been made for the sake of simplicity/playability, and certainly I've played games in the past that would put most of the people here in the fetal position with math anxiety and bore people into comas with page after page of text and charts in rulebooks, but I'm not seeing a simplicity or playability rationale for doing things so inversely from what is true in the real world.

Idea 1 - Military technology makes equipment more expensive, not less, over time. That's a simple real world historical fact. The trade off is that while soldier equipment, tanks, planes, and ships become more expensive, it also becomes more capable. So I don't see how making things even less realistic is an improvement. Idea 2 - This is a player problem, not a mechanics issue. Maybe if alliances didn't fight such long, drawn out wars, they wouldn't require months to recover and insist on lengthy NAPs to ensure they can do so in relative peace. Also, nation growth =/= stagnation. It's entirely possible to play the game, enjoy the game, want to spend RL money on the game, and not fire a single shot in anger in a war. This isn't a first person shooter. Idea 3 - There is not actually a problem here--or that is, not the problem you think there is. Cities *should* be a factor in the size of militaries. Urbanization and large, highly capable militaries go hand-in-hand. The consistent problem has always been nations with a significant number of cities and little to no infrastructure being allowed to have too large a military force. Example, Germany 1943 versus Germany 1945. As Germany's infrastructure was destroyed by Allied bombing, its ability to produce large numbers of tanks, planes, artillery, and even small arms was also reduced. The penalty for having your infrastructure in a given city reduced to say under 1,000 should be dramatically increased.

1,799 now. No longer growing like kudzu.

You have 1,785 nukes and 122 members as on 6 July 2025. EVH has 125 nukes. TKR has 728. TFP has 337. TI has 416. We can discuss whether or not you are actually going to cap the number of nukes your nations hold (seems highly unlikely), but there can be no question that the number you hold now is significantly above average and noteworthy.

Rose says many things, and have actually lied to your face before, causing you to declare a war on TI that got you into major trouble until you pivoted, but to some of the members of the coalition (Myr especially), whom you should have been fighting along side and coordinating with, it was an unforgivable error. You further compounded it by going on a beige spree and taking away potential targets, angering Myr and KT particularly, and annoying others. Ask yourself why I would suggest a viceroy. Oh by the way, in that entire channel, and I searched it, the only mention of a viceroy was by BigMorf, and he was against such a thing, and only brought it up in the context of things that used to happen on Planet Bob (CN). That quote you have a screenshot of in context was about encouraging those who would pursue war against you to decide upon realistic goals for how a war involving Camelot would end. The conclusion of that conversation was that trying to force you out would be futile. So I simply left it at, "then you have a decision to make." It's not for me to set your peace terms. It's for the people who are fighting you to set those, and for you to accept them, accept them in part and negotiate for better terms on the other points, or flat out reject them and fight on.

You meant this to be insulting I think, but in reality, war is for burning pixels, and we've shown we aren't afraid it. Actually, we enjoy it. Saving this image for a more appropriate time. Everyone at World Task Force will get a kick out of it.

I'm just trying to figure out where the profit is in buying debt of an alliance you intend to financially sabotage, knowing that if you were successful they'd be unable to pay back the loans you just bought. I mean, that works if this is Wall Street (it's also evil as hell), but on Orbis, you just screwed yourself. If an alliance defaults on a loan, you don't get to take them to court, you don't get to seize their remaining assets and dissolve them, you're just out of luck (and in this case billions in cash). Oh sure you can make it so the alliance can't get loans any more, but so what? Why are you running your entire alliance on a long term line of credit? That's stupid. Also, why would Rose want a CB, assuming that defaulting on a loan is a CB, on Camelot they can't use for months? Especially when they already have one. But hey, Epi thinks I want to throw him out of power and install myself as Viceroy over Camelot, so clearly, I must be conspiring with Rose...or something. 🙄

We were very clear why you were placed under political and economic embargo, stop making up shit. There was nothing about "regime change". You aren't in any position to "punish" anyone at this stage, fight the enemies in front of you, there are more than enough. If you want to keep making threats though and give us a CB for later, then by all means, we're listening. But please bear in mind, when we come, we won't come alone. We will bring hell with us.

Make sure when your birthday rolls around, or perhaps the December holidays if that has already passed, you ask your mom for a device that tells time. They make wearable ones now. You should totally get one.

I appreciate the kind remarks. Yeah, new era, new World Task Force. I was on the front line and in leadership with Acadia during NPOLT. If he got screwed over, it was before my time here. I *do* recall having a couple of dances with him on the battlefield though WAY back in the day. Not a name one forgets easily. heh

Who exactly is that directed toward, because I was never in alliance leadership in a 'TC'. You confusing North Atlantic Defense Coalition (NADC) with North American Confederacy (NAC)? I was in charge of NAC, we merged with DEIC to form Acadia.

I sent the money and the gas to TFP. They were surprised but grateful. If you have more money and resources you'd like to send to them, just have someone send them along.

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Fair question. As someone else pointed out in conversation to me though, Samurai didn't break the NAP, Camelot did. Samurai was never party to it. If in fact they are bank sharing and offshoring and there is proof of that, adding them to the embargo will happen forthwith.

Looking at all the lengthy forum posts recently, some of them going on about the actions of Camelot and how unjustified they are, I'm struck by the fact that they are just well, words and pictures. Not that we at World Task Force disagree with the sentiment. To be clear: Camelot may or may have had good reason to break the NAP agreement they signed, but what they lacked was clear evidence that others had broken it first (lots of effort to create a video and images though). Breaking NAPs bad. Very bad. We do not condone it on principle. World Task Force has no treaty ties to Camelot, no treaty ties to the alliances it has attacked, but someone should take a stand against NAP breaking in a tangible way. So that is exactly what we have done. We invite others to join us, be you one of our allies, someone with whom we've enjoyed good relations and friendship that isn't necessarily expressed as a treaty, have respect for us, or hell, just don't like us but agree with the cause. World Task Force has put in place an alliance-wide trade embargo against Camelot. Should it come to our attention that Camelot is running trades as a way to bypass the embargo through Samurai, they too will be embargoed. World Task Force will not sign any treaty with Camelot until such time that Camelot leadership repudiates NAP breaking and manages to come up with tangible proof of their accusations of conspiracy and NAP breaking against other alliances or apologizes for making such allegations. Now back to your regularly scheduled wall of text, or meme, or whatever....

"Every Samurai personnel has the freedom to conduct their own diplomacy personally." Yeah, they might want to think about negotiating peace options. They don't want to go where Epi is leading this time.

There's already a P&W Test server, even an annual tournament. No need to go to an outside game.

That's certainly an interesting perspective. You are completely out of your friggen tree, but in an interesting way. As my aunt Edna used say, "bless your heart." I will however tip my hat to Arrgh for finding a way to get people to think of nuclear blackmail and accepting bribes to rig votes as a game and a source of entertainment.

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Go be with your son when the time comes, and get ready for a oddball sleep schedule for a while. RL > P&W, and Time your family >> P&W Quite likely, this place will still be here should you ever decide to return. You'll probably find once the dust has settled and the kid is sleeping through the night, you'll have some time for this place again in the evenings. There's no disgrace in being "just a spear carrier" when that's what you have time to do. If this is more or less goodbye forever, remember the lessons you learned here. There are always life lessons you can learn when playing these games. How to work as part of a team, leadership skills, the style of leadership that works best for you. Even the occasion lessons regarding project management, strategy, negotiating, time management, and life balance. Best of luck to you in all you do.

Nicely done. Congrats to all three parties. Time for some strudel....

In other words, "not to deride a peace agreement but I'm going to deride the peace agreement and take a dump on it, congrats." 🙄 We appreciate your concern. It's been a while since you were part of a properly executed war plan, or hell, even won a war. So I'll forgive you for being naive as to what happens next. But people who don't have a death wish don't keep fighting needlessly for months on end. That's been tried. It hurts the game more than helps it.