Roquentin 1256 Posted October 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said: "As soon as we want to, we're just going to abandon our obligations unilaterally and without using the agreed cancellation procedure, and it's not our fault because we say it isn't. Also we're still not a hegemony." They abandoned their obligations to begin with so the treaty was already violated. They no longer saw us an ally and excluded us from their FA direction and committed hostile actions. We were not informed of their plans to treaty Carthago and OWR and it was deliberate and not an oversight, so we looked fricking stupid when those treaties went up and they exited. Straight up. Edited October 17 by Roquentin 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Scarfalot 1993 Posted October 17 Just now, Roquentin said: They abandoned their obligations to begin with so the treaty was already violated. They no longer saw us an ally and excluded us from their FA direction and committed hostile actions. You're the one that A. lied to them, B. excluded them from your FA direction, and C. openly attacked them. You're the ones that violated the treaty, period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roquentin 1256 Posted October 17 Just now, Sir Scarfalot said: You're the one that A. lied to them, B. excluded them from your FA direction, and C. openly attacked them. You're the ones that violated the treaty, period. If you can't see it objectively, that's your problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Scarfalot 1993 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, Roquentin said: If you can't see it objectively, that's your problem. The objective truth is quite simple: You lied to T$, you acted on your paperless ties to BK ahead of your full paper treaty obligations to T$, and then you openly attacked T$'s protectorate (attack on protectorate is an attack on protector, that's objectively the standard language of all protection treaties including your own so don't even think about weaselling on that front). If you can't see that objectively, then that is in fact your problem. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Scarfalot 1993 Posted October 17 1 hour ago, Roquentin said: They abandoned their obligations to begin with so the treaty was already violated. They no longer saw us an ally and excluded us from their FA direction and committed hostile actions. We were not informed of their plans to treaty Carthago and OWR and it was deliberate and not an oversight, so we looked fricking stupid when those treaties went up and they exited. Straight up. And another thing, if you felt that the treaty wasn't being honored then why didn't you follow through on that and cancel instead of leading them on for all this time? The onus was on you to cancel, and by not doing so you prove that you never had any intention to honor the treaty yourself. Meanwhile, no part of the treaty restricted either them or you from allying with anyone, which is a thing that NPO did as well. On several occasions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pop 610 Posted October 17 (edited) I get that your posts are basically memes but post more real memes and argue less thx. We have dozens of other threads for the exact same conversation we've been having for 4 months, this one must remain pure. Â Edited October 17 by Pop 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alyster 903 Posted October 17 20 minutes ago, Pop said: I get that your posts are basically memes but post more real memes and argue less thx. We have dozens of other threads for the exact same conversation we've been having for 4 months, this one must remain pure. Â Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prefonteen 7361 Posted October 18 On 10/17/2019 at 6:11 AM, Roquentin said: If you can't see it objectively, that's your problem. Â 1 4 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prefontaine 7800 Posted October 18 Ah June, a simpler time.. I remember when this video made sense.  Guess I'll have to make a followup now that the battlefield is so dramatically different. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buorhann 7142 Posted October 18 I just may put that image on our AA page. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prefonteen 7361 Posted October 18 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519483 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519482 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519485 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519484 Â Guerilla Whalefare, colorized. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNG 5460 Posted October 21 Inspired by the peace talks thread... 😛 19 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epi 1916 Posted October 22 Kertog: Give us the surrender terms Co-B: so u wanna surrender Kertog: dabs, no. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alyster 903 Posted October 22 7 minutes ago, Epi said: Kertog: Give us the surrender terms Co-B: so u wanna surrender Kertog: dabs, no. Are we to udnerstand that surrendering is only term you have? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
