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  1. Lmfao this game is led by wimps As if a 3.5 month NAP for 1 day of fighting wasn't enough, they somehow find a way to extend it to 6.5 months👌
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  2. I have noticed a bit of a trend recently… A cloud of darkness has descended over the forums,,, discussion has been stifled,,, the end times are near… But what is the solution to what ails us? Some would say it's democracy! But does it actually work? I think not... Should alliances force members from their homeland and onto an alien and prehistoric communication platform? It's best that stays contained… What we need,,, At the FA level At the IA level At the EA level And even at the MA level *Meme pending the results of this war* Is failure! Because failure is funny... But in this dark age of failures, only a true hero can lead us to salvation... Eclipse hereby declares a holy war against The House to spread the virtues of NAPs, Democracy, and Big Money
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  3. Singularity and The Golden Horde signs PentaForce. That will be all.
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  4. Total Eclipse of the Heart Last month, Eclipse celebrated its fourth birthday, but they seem to have forgotten the fireworks! As we're all about having a good time, we at The House have decided to rectify this oversight and throw you the least surprising surprise party ever! Seemingly you all want to swing by our tables and test your luck, so we decided to bring them right to you - with a little flare. Hope you kept those eclipse glasses...this is sure to be a bright affair! The House Declares War on Eclipse and their buddies. Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse of the Heart (Turn Around) (Official Video)
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  5. Normally I'm more of a "short and snappy tweet-style" poster, but I've been seeing quite a few people talking about the state of nukes and the possibility of a "nuke turret meta" and wanted to get all of my thoughts on the subject down in one place. As someone who's been turreting for over 2.5 years straight now, the discourse surrounding turreting has been the equivalent of watching someone repeatedly trying to mash a square peg into a round hole. There's two main concerns I hear people bring up whenever there's turret-related discourse. The first, and less seen, point is the fear of a "nuke turret alliance" that rolls around and rogues people during peace time. As cool as that'd be to witness, it's not something I expect to see on that large of a scale. There's numerous disincentives, most alliances aren't all that interested in condemning themselves to effectively fight a losing war, on their own, while everyone else is farming and growing, for an abnormally long period of time. Historically, people who have gone on nuke crusades, like HoF and CoA, have only done so for 3 to 7 weeks respectively. Go much longer and you start facing heavy member attrition. What fearmongers often forget is that vanishingly few people want to run off and throw nukes for half a year, especially outside of war season. I feel like this one's a little obvious, but it's something I keep seeing brought up. The main point I've seen people make is that turreting has no counters. While I personally love it when people have this mindset and make no attempts whatsoever to impede me, it's sadly not the case. Numerous forms of counter play exists for all forms of turreting, alliances just can't be asked to put in the slightest amount of effort above what they know works against traditional raiders. If you really want to focus on damaging a nuke build, you've got multiple ways to go about it. The tried and true method still works, slot the turret in question with 3 raids and go to work. All you've got to do is switch your counters (and preferably whoever's been hit) over to Tactician. It takes virtually 0 effort on your part and costs essentially nothing to do, as a turret is not going to want to waste their bombs in raid type wars over the attrition types they've got active. Will you get the same instant gratification and visible damage of dragging a milled up high city raider down into the pits of Hades? No, but if you want to deal with someone who deals low, consistent damage, you're going to have to be okay with doing the same. But maybe you do want something a little more flashy? Something that'll hit a little heavier? Luckily for you, there's a second option that's been staring you in the face the entire time. While nukes are the main weapon of a turret, they're also it's biggest weakness. Now, most people will hear the idea of throwing nukes at someone with 500 infra and think you're either crazy or incompetent. The thing is, you're not nuking their infra, you're nuking their improvements. People have talked about the buffs nukes have received a lot, but a certain change seems to always slip by unnoticed: the buffed improvement destruction. A base nuke destroys 4 random improvements, while a guidance sat boosted nuke will level 5 of them. If you send in 3 counters in raid type wars, they'll be able to launch a total of 12 nukes while receiving minimal damage themselves. How many improvements is that in total? With guidance sat, 48 to 60 improvements in just one round of wars, depending on if the target has VDS or not. Even in the worst case scenario where none of your guys has guidance sat and the turret has VDS, you're still able to hit up to 36 improvements in a single round. People who are sitting at 0 infra and have absolutely nothing to destroy are even easier. They're not producing anything at all and have to run off of a stockpile. This means they're permanently on a timer, both in their individual wars since they're only going to be carrying so much on them at a time and in the long run since they likely aren't replenishing very many of their resources by throwing nukes. Slot them with raid type wars on the Pirate policy and you can sap considerably amounts of their loot on-hand. Their lack of a nuke build makes them vulnerable to perma blockades, letting you completely shut them down if you can pull one off for long enough. Some people might say that slotting a turret and trying to spam nukes or get them in a perma blockade is too much effort. This is a totally fair opinion to have. As an alliance, it's your choice on how you want to deal with turrets. If your chosen method is "doing nothing in-game while complaining to everyone who'll listen and begging for them to be nerfed", so be it. I just think that's a little lame. Want to cap this off with a callout to @Buorhann specifically since he's been one of the main proponents of what I'm talking about. I tried to level with you in DMs, but you've been talking about this "nuke meta" constantly for weeks now. If you really think an alliance of nuke turrets running around and rogueing people left and right would be game breaking, why not show us? I think you know just as well as I do that you'd fracture your community and lose most of your guys after a few months all to do less damage than you could have done in a traditional war. If you believe in this so passionately, I'd love to see you put your money where your mouth is.
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  6. AUTHORED BY THE EVER ELOQUENT SUPERFLOUS LYSANDER THE GREAT This is disgraceful. Y’all, c’mon. We’ve watered down peace terms to white peace and a NAP. Sometimes wars are the result of political maneuvering - it’s clear this NAP was - but very little of that is made public. Some of the recently used “CBs” have made it clear that the war itself is because of something, but the reasoning is increasingly hidden from the public. Most players no longer even know what they’re fighting a war for when one kicks off. Spectators have no clue what the true reasoning is unless they’re in-the-know. And once the war finishes, the terms are white peace (or maybe a surrender) and a NAP. We’re aware most of you don’t care about this opinion. We just couldn’t sit around and watch a good number of our friends, within and without the alliance, continue to lose interest in the game because the talking heads don’t care about the overall game. This post isn’t about “politics” - it’s about pointing out that this is just… uncool. The mergers we’ve seen reduce the number of political actors. That’s not to say they’re not a valid strategy, but so is signing a forever NAP and just never fighting again. In fact, never fighting again is the optimal strategy. I’m sure some parts of the game are working hard on that goal, but the point is that, as players, we are partially responsible for the health of the game & its political environment. I hope this is the only time we see this happen, but I’m not going to pretend that’s what I expect. First it was 3.5 months for one day. Now it’s an extra 3 months for no time. Maybe these thoughts mean nothing. But we’re not the only ones having them. Yours truly, House Stark If you would like to debate or discuss this further, feel free to join one of the Community server of all time in Orbis: RON, where Lysander will be holding a discussion regarding this truly wonderful advancement in FA. https://discord.gg/royal-orbis-news-446601982564892672
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  7. As we continue to put focus on remedies using diplomacy, discussions have been had in private channels about extending the Orbis NAP and having peace between spheres. This has been agreed upon and involved parties are listed in length at the end of this article. This will be effective following immediately after the end of the current non-aggression pact from the One Day War ending on May 18th, 2024 12:00 AM Gametime (Standard Update) The agreed upon terms are as followed: A non-aggression period between the constituent alliances of all coalitions lasting August 18th, 2024 12:00 AM Gametime (Standard Update) during which as defined are: No wars on members No raids on members No mass ghosting to hit coalition members No shell alliance hits No spy attacks will be carried out against the other coalition’s members No hiring of mercenaries or raiders to hit the opposing coalition signatories Signatories agree that an agreement of mutual defense supersedes non-aggression. Henceforth, if there is found to be documented and proven aggression by any signatories, diplomacy should be executed to resolve by way of peace, financial reparations, or war. Response by the defending party is at their discretion, based on severity. The terms of the NAP are considered void between the aggressive signatory or parties and the receiving signatory or parties - depending on violation, only upon official statement given publicly. If no statement of voiding is given publicly, with proof, then the NAP as outlined prior will continue to be enforced. All extensions of alliances below are automatically included in the NAP, named or otherwise. RoseGuard: Rose Guardian Arkham Asylum Oblivion Valinor Orchid Pika Party Atlas Technologies Chocolate Castle Blackwater Respublica Romana WELP: Eclipse Weaponized Assault Penguins Weebunism Knights Templar Legion of Dawn The Commonwealth Order of Dawn Farkistan Seven Star Magister Mortalis Hand of Fate Raiden INC Fumo Penguin Party Antarctic Pirates Strickland Propane Shuba10KM Quasars Terminus Est CIS: Singularity The Fighting Pacifists The Golden Horde Camelot Dark Brotherhood The High Table Antarctica Alliance SAIL Loves Singularity Pika Party Freehold of the Wolves Off-Shore Sylvanoras Whisper Scipio Albarrio Gamblers Anonymous The Witcher Order Orbis Peace Organization Black Sheep Nations of Neutrality The Key Valorian Order Brotherhood Family Unforgiven Legion Panem The Armed Peacekeepers Akatsuki Gallowglass SAIL: The Syndicate Event Horizon The Legion Church of Atom Man I Love Frogs Requiem The Enterprise Pokimans The Firm Aurora Carthago Goon Squad Federated States of Orbis Vault-Tec Royal Alba Charter Company Imperium of Man Planet Fitness City Skylines 2 The Hive Chowder Bangers World Task Force
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  8. What ODOO thinks is going on behind the scenes: What is actually going on behind the scenes:
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  9. apology for poor english where were you wen pnw died? i was sat at work eating sriracha noodle when vein ring 'pnw is kill' died like a year ago why are you guys still here 'no' yes
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  10. I would also want a 7 month NAP if I had to fight us for 12 hours.
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  11. Pathetic. This extended nap is simply pathetic.
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  12. The Knights Radiant are more than happy to recruit players who still want to actually play this game. Open up a ticket on our Discord: https://discord.gg/theknightsradiant Sincerely, Some retiree
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  13. The Assassins of the Dark Brotherhood are plentiful and patient. They await but a few words from the Night Mother to act, and tonight, the Night Mother has spoken. Whispers of treacherous actions against the Dark Brotherhood and our allies have been heard and uncovered by our Night Mother. The treacherous agents of The Sword Coast, once cloaked in the guise of friendship, have revealed their true colors. Their daggers aimed not at our enemies but at our very hearts. They have infiltrated our ranks, stealing secrets like thieves in the night, all in service to a foreign power, The Knights Radiant. Let them tremble in fear as we descend upon them, swift and silent as the reaper's kiss. Let them face the consequences of their betrayal, as they face the full wrath of the Dark Brotherhood. For tonight, under the watchful gaze of the Night Mother, there shall be no mercy. Only the cold embrace of oblivion awaits those who dare to cross us. On the orders of the Night Mother, we will go after those traitors and ensure they face the consequences of their treacherous actions. TLDR: The Dark Brotherhood declares war on The Sword Coast for stealing OPSEC information for The Knights Radiant. Long Live The Dark Brotherhood!
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  14. C'mon. I got Likes to hand out here.
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  15. Tell everyone why we only had a day of fighting.
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  16. "Yo, Allen, you got any coffee?" "As much as yesterday." And so on, and so forth. It's been our customary greeting with the boys for what, 3 months and a half? Every morning, at the office, at the "coffee" break of 10 AM. It all started in February, some major conflict in a third world hole in the middle of nowhere, two superpowers of the time, Odoolest and Welpera, got in a fight over.... I don't even remember. During the fight, a terrorist group tried to release some biological weapon, but it was a massive failure. Killed nobody but the coffee plants, endemic to the region. Of course, we know how this world does with pandemics. We're not even able to stop something that kills humans, so who even cares about some random plants? A lot of us, in fact, but we wouldn't die over it, would we? So, obviously, you know how it went. People got careless, coffee plantations died off at incredible speeds, it became rarer and rarer, people tried to save some plants by taking them away, they carried the disease, and whatnot. You know the drill. In 2 weeks, the species was basically done for. In 2 more, the last stocks went out. We've been dubbing this period the Pajama Party. Lacking that sweet sweet caffeine, and with the labs being far unable to produce enough for the population, we've just had to learn to live without, and by that we mean spend our afternoons sleeping instead of doing anything useful cause we can't go on with the post-lunch espresso. The world's been bland, boring, uneventful, and even more tiring than usual. You know how it is. So did I, till this morning. "Yo, Allen, any news on that coffee?" He shot me a panicked look, and quickly pulled me aside in the break room, far from earshot of my coworkers. He opened his bag, dug through it for a second, and pulled out a little plastic bag of fine white powder. "Is that... Co-" "Caffeine, yes. Don't tell anyone. A lab has been producing some in the area, it's been super expensive, but we finally got the end product. Ain't the real deal, but they told me it packed a punch. So, what do you say?" "Bloody hell Allen, you hero." "I know. Now go away, we're gonna look suspicious. Come over tomorrow morning. Let's have a cup. And for all that's holy, to hell with nap time." ---- **The Lost Mines declare war on: Legion of Dawn, Magister Mortalis, Knights Templar, Order of Dawn, Weebunism, The Commonwealth, Eclipse, Antarctic Pirates, and offshores; for the following reason: We're too old for nap time.**
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  17. "Official" and "Serious" Announcement from El Gato After recent events have shown, it has been apparent that we have no interest in playing the game of Politics and War. So hereby El Gato proposes an Indefinite NAP so we can enjoy the new game of Politics &. We also ask all current and future NAP signatures to switch to 0/0/0/0 MMR as it is quite unnecessary in these peaceful times, we will do it after you guys do . This concludes this 'serious" announcement SIgned without consent, El GATO Pen-4s Home Rose Cart L $ell-outs Cyst
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  19. Y'all remember when we said no more NAPs :serious:
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  20. The Weaponized Assault Building And Legal Legislation Subcommittee of Penguins is horrified to see blatant violations of building codes by the North Pole elf syndicate known as the House. The subcommittee has determined conclusively that the House guilty of inadequate fan sizing, missing smoke alarms, possessing weapons of mass destruction, and maintaining a fence three inches outside of the property line. The Weaponized Assault BALLS of Penguins have no choice but to lead a special military operation to eradicate these building code travesties and remove the heretics that reside in the House. TLDR Weaponized Assault Penguins declares war on The Knights Radiant, Grumpy Old Bastards, The Sword Coast, The Immortals, and Cult of Cthulhu for a violation of the NAP by members of TKR and the Cult of Cthulhu. The wars in question are listed below. We're sad our hand was forced into this, but we have no choice. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=2004635 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=2004656 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=2004654 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=2004677
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  21. Investor Contact: Media Contact: President Tom Gaius Julius Caesar SYNDICATE, INC., ANNOUNCES STRUCTURAL AND LINEUP CHANGES NASSAU, Bahamas, 2024-04-30: SYNDICATE, Inc., (NYSE:SCC) has a number of updates to provide to the broader community of Orbis. Firstly, the Board is delighted to announce the appointment of Chaunce and Tim to the position of Chair of the Board. The Board of the Syndicate is composed of the Executive Officers, and a selection of highly sought after Advisory members, who have previously held executive positions and have been retained to provide guidance into the strategic direction of The Syndicate. The non-executive Chair(s), while having no impact on the day-to-day operations of The Syndicate, will ensure high governance standards, and act as trustees for key assets. This appointment is made possible due to the welcome expungement of a series of convictions against [redacted]. This move provides the Executive Officers with a strong board along with additional oversight in a goal to reduce the ongoing concerns regarding embezzlement and reduced shareholder returns. Tim was overheard asking: “Are we supposed to share the chair or can we get one each?”. Chief Global Strategist Gaius Julius Caesar responded: “I have helped bring some fossils semi-out of retirement.” Secondly, the Board would like to inform the shareholders of changes pertaining to the Chief Financial Officer. After serving as CFO for fourteen months, Keram decided that the time for retirement had come. Following his resignation, and boarding of a flying boat headed for an idyllic island where he could enjoy his retirement to its fullest, the Executives held consultations; the conclusions derived from these led to them deciding that Shiho Nishizumi would be the best candidate to replace the outgoing CFO. Shiho was promptly contacted, and after a brief telegram exchange, he accepted the offer. Within half a day of Shiho’s appointment, his White Swan could be seen making a landing on the company’s private airport. The Board would like to thank the outgoing CFO for his efforts and contributions, and congratulate the Chairs and new CFO on their appointments. Lucas, recently retired longest-serving member of The Executive and now a member of the advisory board, could not participate in the inauguration ceremony but offered his congratulations through a spokesperson. “Executive Emeritus Lucas expresses regret at not being able to leave Exegol for this ceremony but he is most pleased with the new Chairs,” hissed the figure, pressing bony fingers together and clad in a black and red cloak, its face hidden under a hood. “That the ones known as Tim and Chaunce have found their way back to the forefront is a most heartwarming feeling, to be sure. No one ever’s really gone.” As always, this press release was written and edited by an unbiased third party, and The Syndicate is not liable for any legal charges that arise as a result. About SYNDICATE, Inc. SYNDICATE, Inc., based near Nassau, The Bahamas, is the world's leading gasoline, aluminum and munitions distributor for a wide variety of peacekeeping and humanitarian activities. Wholly-owned SYNDICATE, Inc. subsidiary brands include The Enterprise, which provides development and growth opportunities for multinational prodigies around the globe, and Top Gear 2002, which continues to test the limits and boundaries of speed and motion. This sentence is here because we still couped Zed. For more information about SYNDICATE, Inc., and its activities, contact Gaius Julius Caesar, Chief Global Strategist
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  23. As we reach a milestone and reflect upon 365 days from inception to its present evolution, The High Table wishes to extend a toast to all. Join us in celebrating and uniting all peoples of Orbis from the lonely one-nation nano, to the 200-nation mega-macro, to the tax farms that have perished, and the micro dreams that are yet to become a reality. Raise your glass of our finest Red Wine — Glory to The High Table! And may John Wick have mercy on those nations receiving personalized invitations from our devout members to join them in celebration.
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  24. Jack off Jack off with a friend 😊
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  25. Ahoy, Landlubbers and Nuckers of Orbis. This is a declaration of war from Nuck Squad on Legion of Dawn. Legion of Dawn shall suffer from the wrath of our turrets, our ships are not aircraft carriers but they are super battleships equipped with nucks. We were plundering the white color trade blocc ruining and taking the bonus further tensions occured when a Nuck Squad member stole Legion of Dawn's warchest worth 8Bn and destroyed 4Bn with the remaining 4Bn being forcefully returned. An attempt to purge Nuck Squad was made by The Legion of Dawn equipped with their incompetent milcom members! Behold ya'all pixel huggers, Nuck Squad wont spare a single pixel of yours. The war has just started. This is the beginning of an end!! LoD's terms: 🗿 Signed Dust Devil Cherith Arms Dealer: Nanami Haruka, Ashh, KingThed Radiator: Mystery INC, Barbaros Special Nucker: Black Oily Men
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  26. Businessweek Exclusive: Families of Victims Shocked after Former Syndicate Exec's Conviction Overturned Orbis Businessweek - In 2018 the nation was aghast as the horrific crimes of 'Uncle Chaunce'—a founding government member of SYNDICATE Inc. and longtime Executive—came to be known by the public at large. But since then, outside of the release of an odd and eccentric conspiratorial screed written and released from federal prison in 2020, public attention has largely focused elsewhere. That changed on Tuesday as Chaunce's lawyers announced at a press conference that after years of appeals and legal challenges, his convictions and life sentence had been overturned. As they were speaking and starting to provide further details, noises began to erupt and his lawyers seemed startled and shocked, as Kanye West's Jesus Walks (Version 2) started to loudly play and Chaunce himself unexpectedly and triumphantly strutted onto the stage and up to the podium. He then began to speak: "Six long years!", he repeatedly yelled. "Yet now, I am honored to announce that I have been COMPLETELY exonerated of any wrong doing. I AM A VINDICATED MAN!" He then went quiet for a moment, with his head pointing downward, while no one dared say a word. But then, he swiftly raised his eyes up towards the heavens and proclaimed in a bellowing voice, "VIVE LIBRE!", with a hand clenched into a fist in the air, along with a rum and coke with lime in the other, and Kanye's voice still playing in the background, "to the hustlers, killers, murderers, drug dealers, even the scrippers", while confusion took hold amongst the crowd of reporters. Several hours later, in a separate press conference on the other side of the country, a tearful middle aged woman surrounded by reporters was on a stage next to a pale, motionless man in a wheelchair, with a soulless look on his face: "Just look at Enrique, my poor boy. He hasn't said a single word in years," she emotionally exclaimed. "To be clear, the court was very direct in their ruling that this does not mean… (lengthy pause) that man… is innocent. He is still civilly liable for hundreds of millions in damages. He is a monster… a deluded clinical psychopath. This is over a technicality pertaining to the jury and separate allegations from the Philippines being…" Suddenly, noises began to erupt and the woman seemed startled and shocked, as Kanye West's Jesus Walks (Version 2) started to loudly play and Chaunce himself unexpectedly and triumphantly strutted onto the stage and up to the podium. But this time, he didn't say a word, but rather had a piece of duck tape over his mouth. He pointed towards a custom made shirt he was wearing, which had "#Prisoner'sRightsActivism" printed on the front. He then turned and pointed to his back, which read "#I'mTheRealVictimHere". Chaunce proceeded to put his arm around the shoulder of the still fully unresponsive Enrique, with Kanye's voice still playing in the background, "to the victims of welfare for we livin' in Hell here, hell yeah", while confusion once again took hold amongst the crowd of reporters. Simultaneously, a young and beaming spokeswoman at SYNDICATE Inc. headquarters in Nassau, Bahamas, was holding a third press conference. "We are pleased to be able to honor and welcome back Chaunce into the t$ corporate family in this critical oversight role". As she said this with a buoyant smile, cameras caught a single ominous tear streaming down the side of her face. This is a still developing story and we will continue to provide updates as protests continue to grow outside the courthouse and SYNDICATE Inc. headquarters.
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  27. And just like that, the forums are active again.
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  28. Oblivion is more than happy to recruit players who don't want to actually play this game. Please provide your username and password to Ockey5 on our Discord: https://discord.gg/YRerfDpaKJ Sincerely, Some retiree
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  29. Better late than never I suppose.
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  30. On August 29th, 2020, I enrolled in college at Florida Southern College in Lakeland, Florida (USA). One month later, on September 29th, 2020 (1,313 days ago), I saw a Facebook ad for Politics & War while sitting in my dorm room—alone because of COVID-19 regulations—and decided to give the game a chance. Well... today, on May 4th, 2024, I have successfully graduated !@#$ laude with my Bachelor's of Science in Applied Mathematics and Computer Science with a minor in Data Analytics. I wanted to share this momentous day with everyone in the community who I have come to know and consider to be good friends. As I embark on this next chapter of life, I hope to share many ups and downs with you all. I hope to meet and get to know even more members of the community whether they be newer or older members. Special Recognitions To all the leaders, past and present, of the alliances I have called home for fostering communities I have so enjoyed being a part of: @Kan0601 @ToxicPepper @AlexW @Xi Jinping @JaxTeller @evilpiggyfoofoo To all the mentors who taught me the ways of Politics & War for being a guiding beacon: @CholanK @Yzard To the various members of government I have had the pleasure of serving under and with: @Nidavelir @SlyWolf21 @Yassin_Hakim @Masked Titan @Robert2424 @Mega and so many more across my time in Internal Affairs (propaganda), Military Affairs, and Foreign Affairs To those whom I trained and mentored during my time as Chairman of MA for Aurora for being amazing individuals and continuing to impress me to this day: Bria1814, Kuro, Engr, Alexander To the many many friends I have made along the way for being there for me both in-game and out of it: @Rainbowgeist @Nokia Rokia @MinesomeMC @Tiberius Aurion @Franz Steiger @Go0se @Lysander and many I'm sure I have neglected as I rush to type this out before midnight To the developers whom I have had the pleasure of working alongside/for: @Alex @Village @Putmir Vladin Limi (the Forum's won't let me tag you smh)
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  31. Average forum drone when they reach their reaction limit for the day and are forced to take a break from glazing
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  32. You seem to be forgetting I was leading Paradise at the time. You are correct that you weren't plotting to hit Singularity at that point, because it didn't exist, but it's a moot point, you did plan to hit Singularities predecessor, you DID hit Singularity ultimately, when it merged, on the back of that plan. There was even a retroactive attempt to use the formation of Singularity and the numbers it provided to Florida, as a justification, completely ignoring the fact you were more than willing to hit Florida, with TKR/Grumpy AND CATA. I was establishing why I don't trust you by pointing to an example of when I worked with you in a coalition, and then you immediately plotted to target the people you worked with in that same coalition. You can say it was all about Rose all you like, but Rose didn't even front the coalition against Fortuna, nor the formation of Florida, I have as much of a basis to make that claim as Rose does, and given my role in the formation of that coalition, more so I'd say. And considering you just conceded that Rose has a leg to stand on, it's clear you aren't denying you chose to target us immediately after the war ended. I wasn't criticizing your desire to make an arrangement that benefited you. I was directly responding to the claim you "rescued us" and that we should be "grateful." You made a self interested decision to enter. We made overtures towards you before the war ever started, to which you guys turned down. That's within your rights, but the attempt to spin the events of last war as a "rescue" of a group of alliances who had already lost all their infra and been fighting that specific conflict for 2 months is laughable. We COULD have gone through with what by all accounts would have been long nap, sat out of the next cycle, leaving you guys to fend for yourselves. (Which, amusingly, is what happened here.), but instead we chose to fight longer in order to avoid a potential nap cycle being placed on all parties. I'm going to assume this is because you only became leader after the war, and so your involvement was limited. There was definitely discussion and counter measures put into place for the one glaring possibility you are alluding. And you are correct, panicked decision making did take place, but it wasn't ours. We had very specific expectations that were set, and when the chips were down, those expectations were not met by the parties on your side of the coalition. We didn't panic, we immediately responded, and urged others to follow through on the commitments they had made, but out of fear, they chose not to. So no, I don't concede that at all. My claim, from the beginning, is that there was an attempt, by Morf, to leave us behind. That is what he supported, that is what he wanted. And that is why he brought the deal only to Rose first, and pitched it that way. Had Rose agreed to it then, that's what would have happened. You say he brought the offer to Rose first, what you are omitting, is he brought the offer that included leaving Singularity/TFP in the war alone, to Rose first, and advocated for it. And he did a lot more advocating for it from what I have seen. This I find a little ridiculous. Your only grievance from us is that as you say, is malicious rumors. But those "malicious" rumors, are just the same accusations that I have made here. Essentially, you are mad that we are mad at you. You can call what I've said lies and smears, but when things started to get heated here, I approached you and offered to settle this privately. I haven't yet dropped any of the information on here to make my points, because ultimately, the only audience here that I've been directing this is you and your government. So here is my question, Do you want me to start dropping logs? Because being called a liar for the claims I've been making is, to me, a direct call out. And the only way I can defend myself here is to start doing so. I am happy to start responding, with logs, starting with every post Canbec has made, and then you, and then the random ass members of TKR and their various hot takes, if that is where we feel this needs to go. Or, we can deal with it privately, and you stop trying to argue points in public that aren't true.
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  33. You know what’s ironic, everyone who was defending and forced the 1 day war nap is now trying to shoot at this nap which was both caused by the same group of people. Sketchy basically explained everything that happened, if you guys had gotten your way you wouldn’t be complaining right now. Idk why you guys are even trying to shift blame on someone else after all that backroom talk it’s best everyone who was involved shut up because if logs starts coming out everyone will see what’s up and how this nap unfolded into where we are at right now.
    17 points
  34. We’ve not engaged much partially because we’ve been busy, but also because with much of this, we have already made our stance on what happened in the lead up to this NAP clear in Roberts’ post here: We aren’t interested in repeating them ad nauseam, and we have been reaching out privately to talk to folks as well. That said, there are a few points made here we wish to clarify on publicly. This particular claim makes very little sense to me. Singularity didn’t even exist when the Fortuna war ended, and at that point, we were still allied to one of the alliances that would go on to form Singularity. So no, we weren’t immediately plotting against you. If Rose instead wanted to make that claim, they might have a leg to stand on. However, that decision to fight them was based on our understanding they were blaming us for the coalition against Fortuna, which we made clear in our CB/discussions with them following that war, even if they disagreed with our conclusions. Did we try to make an arrangement that was as much to our advantage as to the advantage of the other members of the coalition? Of course we did. As did you, as does any alliance. But blaming everything that went wrong in that war on TKR shows a lack of accountability for your own role in how that war played out. Everyone involved contributed to the breakdown of that war. Best I can tell, there was at least one glaring possibility that was missed and/or not adequately planned for during war prep, which when happened, led to panicked decision making, a breakdown of communications, and a war that went down quickly in flames. We all had a hand in that. To clarify your misconception here, the moment the offer was made to us, we took it to the coalition. There was no separate deal. Despite your perception that you were going to be left behind, that was never a reality nor a real possibility. Although, by your own words, you were doing just fine and didn't need our help, we can agree that had that been a legitimate thing we were trying to do, it would have been bad. Fortunately, that wasn't the case. We assume this misinterpretation of our intent comes from the fact we first took the offer to Rose to gauge their interest, since they had the most to lose from continuing the war and we were willing to continue fighting if they were. Our only mistake during that part of things was to not push for a public peace server, considering how quickly rumors began circulating following the end of the war and again, how quickly responsibility for that entire war was shoved onto us. I could likewise say the same, considering every effort in collaboration with you for the past year results in malicious rumors and our name being smeared. While we don’t deny we’ve made mistakes and are fine taking ownership of them when we’ve actually done something wrong, there have been countless rumors about us of late that are clearly false and, whether intentionally or unintentionally, manufactured. It's easy to read between the lines and completely misinterpret statements when one is searching for ill intent. This is what we believe has been happening on your end. We're choosing to give you the benefit of the doubt here instead of assuming you're intentionally lying and smearing us. There is clearly some mutual mistrust between our alliances fueling this, and that's something we are willing to admit and work toward resolving. We’ve already started talking with your alliance privately and are happy to try and work this out if you're willing to as well. Same offer goes to Rose and Guardian, who I understand to have similar concerns as well.
    17 points
  35. "Rescued" ODOO set terms and conditions on us for their entry that were undoubtedly beneficial to themselves. Their entry was self interest, a prid quo pro. By that point in the war, we had already taken all the damage we were going to take. Peace negotiations with SAIL and us would have taken place and been finished well before the extended war would have, had parties remained in the coalition instead of peacing out. We could have taken a long NAP and sat and allowed for things to play out without us. It would have been more beneficial for us to do so. We opted to make a deal that would prolong the conflict we had already been fighting for 2 months (preceding 2 months of fighting others) in order to make a move that would benefit all parties, That would have committed us to at least 5 months of straight war. The assertion that we were rescued from anything is laughable. I'm not going to expand on what your terms were, despite the various wild claims being made here, but the fact is, you guys had a deal on the table that worked for you, and that is why you helped. And then you walked away from the deal. And very abruptly. We all know how much of a mess that was. As far as us being "angry" goes, I hadn't really intended to get involved in this discussion much. But certain claims were made here that required addressing, and I think it's interesting you guys have chosen to single us out, given everyone else who signed onto the nap, including alliances you claim to have good relations with, and, all in all, we owe you the least here besides perhaps Eclipse. TKR immediately planned to attack us as soon as the Fortuna war in which we fought together was over. And they did, bringing in Syndicate. That put us under a NAP cycle, the same one that prompted their entry into our war later on. TKR made a deal that, as I said earlier, was beneficial to them, in order to bring themselves in, and then when things got too hairy for them, struck a different deal behind our backs, and attempted to exclude us from the process, which would have inevitably left us in the same war they are purported to have rescued us from lmfao. These are all claims I can easily support with evidence, if I have to. Despite all this, we have not gone after or targeted you directly, this entire time. We could have easily sought revenge on TKR/ODOO for your previous attacks on us, we could have easily sought to align with people attempting to hit you this cycle, and, with this nap in place, we could easily align with the current coalition against you. Instead, we have, more than once, attempted to work with you, and find mutual common ground and cut deals with you that would work to our mutual benefit. But past behaviour is a pretty good indicator for future behaviour, and TKR has proven time and time again, that collaboration with you ends poorly for us. Perhaps you'd prefer me to sit alongside you, whisper sweet nothings in your ear, and pretend like I wasn't one of the alliances who signed onto the NAP? Given who you guys have chosen as the target of your ire here, it feels to me that you'd rather hear comfortable lies than brutal honesty.
    17 points
  36. So it seems time to actually clarify a few things and explain to the world why this is just 100% false. First, Toxic, Dark Brotherhood was never part of the discussion that formed CIS. You all joined after it was more or less concluded and were kept to the peripherals level. So unless Singularity wants to back you up here you're arguing that we witnessed OPSEC you didn't. I have zero idea how you managed to get this perspective. Second: I have yet to actually see proof of us allegedly giving any information to TKR. That's not how we roll at all. Actually, let be buff this with some facts on us ending our MDoAP with Singularity and signing House, from someone who was actually a party to these discussions: We had been having a few issues with Sing at the time due to some differences in perspective and were trying to figure out what we wanted. TKR reached out and was looking to work in a collaborative environment with us. We were interested, and we took the offer. We said goodbye to Singularity on (at least from my recollection) good terms. I'm not one to leak OPSEC on an old ally, especially one where we were happy to leave on good terms simply due to a difference in perspective. And again, where do you fit into this? Third: "Maybe this time you'll get a better merge offer 4+ cities"? Aside from the questionable clarity of this phrase, I don't know what this is referring to lol. While we have denied merges, it's mostly because we want to work on growing from the ground up, which seems to have worked well considering we're sitting around #20 in peacetime less than half a year into starting an alliance from zero. Thus, I have yet to see any specific proof or clarity regarding these claims, and you're making these claims without being a party to some of the things you're making claims about. My DMs are, of course, open as always. Considering you've always been quite cheerful and happy to work together in them, I'm sure that we can find some sort of agreement.
    16 points
  37. The voices in my head told me to make this. 🤔 gotta get this to be a 20 page thread. Would be the first one in many years.
    16 points
  38. Trantor, 12 053 Galactic Era Hari Seldon looked at his calculations, and told himself: this can't be right. The galactic empire seems to be at the height of it's power, however, the psychohistorian Hari Seldon predicted that it's capital, trantor, would fall in the following 300 or so years. Following this would come 30 000 years of chaos and barbary before a new empire could rise, predicted once again thanks to his calculations, if we did nothing. But how could anyone do nothing in those conditions? As the empire could not be prevented to fall, Seldon decided to act in another way: reducing the interreign, also known as the period between the 2 empires. He decided to create The Foundation on planet Terminus, on the outskirts of the galaxy, to reduce the interreign to only 1000 years. The Western Republic and The Aequitas International decided to help him to the best of their capacity, sending 100k people total to create the colony. The starting goal is simple, collect all the scientific knowledge of the empire, and spread it through the galaxy through an encyclopedia, however, as time passed, it became clear that Seldon wanted these people to establish the empire themselves.... (with the help of a second foundation) TLDR the merger between Western Republic and The Aequitas International rebrands to The Foundation
    16 points
  39. Sure can - Rose wanted us to break our NAP in order to bail them out from Eclipse's blitz and we didn't agree. Next question.
    16 points
  40. I eagerly await @Raphael's post on how this will kill the game
    16 points
  41. I like the idea of all players belonging to the same alliance. Let's call this hypothetical alliance "Rose"
    15 points
  42. I thought it would be nice of me to compile a list of things you could do between now and August if you are one of the roughly 3000 players affected by the handful of cowardly leaders who doubled an already way-too-long NAP after 24 hours of warfare back in February. In no particular order: Learn a musical instrument Start an exercise routine Coup your leaders Leave your terrible alliance Pick up knitting Give painting a try, Bob Ross is nice to watch Listen to some new, or old, music Read a book or 20 Start shopping for your autumn wardrobe - the NAP will end by the time the weather starts turning in many areas. Give Rise of Kings Online a try, a new nationsim game that doesn't [yet] have years of NAPs being signed Learn some basic Spanish Do some yoga Visit your family Post your ideas for how to spend the 2024 NAP here!
    15 points
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