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The way I always treated it was that reps are more of a payment for peace than they are a payment for damages involved.

 

If you attack someone for no reason, you have caused them damage that is now owed. Your options are to either deal with the consequences of losing that war, or pay for the damage you've dealt (or, obviously, to win - but I've always done my best to make sure that those who raid don't manage that option)

 

If peace hadn't been reached and Jodo had just had his guys curbstomp Gigantasaur, I would view that as a fair payment for the guy having raided. As it is, though, peace was reached and Equaria (and by extension, Noir) has suffered a loss for no good reason at the hands of your member. There's no reason Jodo shouldn't be able to ask that his member catch up to where he was before.

 

Also, the total cost of the war to Equaria is $67,111.03 infra in Nakarev, $44,153.32 infra in Ibiersk, $13,396 in soldiers, $327,700 in tanks, $8437 in aircraft. Assuming you're only counting the damages dealt by your nation, and not the aircraft (which is the only loss he suffered by his own attacks), the total I would have charged for reps would have been $452,360.35. 250k seems fair.

 

I would have charged 250k + 35 cents just to have some spice in the reps.

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I would have charged 250k + 35 cents just to have some spice in the reps.

You know what, we CAN do that. For making such a big deal about it.

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You know what, we CAN do that. For making such a big deal about it.

 

I hope it wont cripple SI :P

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He needs money to rebuild anyways, think of it as a charitable donation.

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Where is Guardain setting up charity funds when you need them?

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Of course he's right to ask for Reps. What is this, amateur hour?!

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Voted in favour of Jodo,However, I think 250k is a bit excessive. 

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Jodo is right to ask reparations, its the norm when dealing with unprovoked attacks.

 

Jodo is right, shame on your for trying to get the forum galley to excuse you not paying reparations. $250K is such a small amount that you should be embarrassed to be complaining so much about it.

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Do you plan on abiding by the results of the poll?

 

If yes, will you conduct all future alliance business by poll in the Alliance Affairs section? I would like to see how that goes. 

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So... The war was boring so this needed to be created? Pay the reps and move on, or don't pay the reps and likely receive your lumps for it...

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So... The war was boring so this needed to be created? Pay the reps and move on, or don't pay the reps and likely receive your lumps for it...

justice, ect, ect.

 

You are losing it in your old age.

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As a member of the Hard-Neutral Sigma. I have sworn not to take sides in any conflicts between any alliances even tho I do have a personal opinion.

 

Just passing thru.

 

:P

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A member of a merc alliance should not receive reps. They are infact paid to destroy. If they want reps than skin the beast, or walk away. Do you intend to pay back a contract you attack? That is the life you choose!

 

At this time, I'd like to remind everyone of the Forty-Ninth Maxim of Maximally Effective Mercenaries:

 

"Every client is one missed payment away from becoming a target."

 

(Why, yes, I did memorize the Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries in addition to the 485 Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, why do you ask?)

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Pay the man his reps.

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250k is insignificant. It's an embarrassment that there was even an attempt to try to rally support against sending the reps to Noir. Do it and let the issue die already.

 

Reps are not simply to cover the cost of damages. It is also a good faith gesture from one alliance to another. The response that an alliance sends reps and how much indicates their sincerity of the situation. Stonewalling and hemming-and-hawing accomplishes nothing. It escalates the situation needlessly.

 

Am I missing something?

 

Also, the vid is unrelated. I just think it's cute :v

 

 

 

 

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250k is insignificant. It's an embarrassment that there was even an attempt to try to rally support against sending the reps to Noir. Do it and let the issue die already.

 

Reps are not simply to cover the cost of damages. It is also a good faith gesture from one alliance to another. The response that an alliance sends reps and how much indicates their sincerity of the situation. Stonewalling and hemming-and-hawing accomplishes nothing. It escalates the situation needlessly.

 

Am I missing something?

 

Also, the vid is unrelated. I just think it's cute :v

 

 

 

 

 

Spot on.

 

cute vid btw

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From: Keegoz Date: 03/29/2015 Sunday 1:44 am [Report Content]

 

Lets make this easier than it needs to be, send Jodo his reps and this can be done with. The community stunt didn't work.

 

Feel free to respond.

 

Keegoz

Emperor of Rose

lmao

 

this thread was a trainwreck of try-hard in and of itself, but this PM makes the entire thing worth it

 

HOW DARE YOU DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY NORMS YOU ARE LITERALLY A MONSTER

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HOW DARE YOU DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY NORMS YOU ARE LITERALLY A MONSTER

 

That's what you took from his PM? I read it as "Whatever you were attempting to do in this thread failed". Didn't see anything about him saying you shouldn't have done it in that PM. Either way, either pay the reps, don't, go fight about it, or please continuing talking.

 

Also, NOIR is supposed to be a merc group, shouldn't you be kicking his ass by now for this?

 

I just..

 

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That's what you took from his PM? I read it as "Whatever you were attempting to do in this thread failed". Didn't see anything about him saying you shouldn't have done it in that PM. Either way, either pay the reps, don't, go fight about it, or please continuing talking.

 

Also, NOIR is supposed to be a merc group, shouldn't you be kicking his ass by now for this?

 

I just..

 

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actually mr.knowitall if you read the technical support forum you'd know that the matter has already been settled!

 

try to keep up, we're kind of a big deal, k?

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actually mr.knowitall if you read the technical support forum you'd know that the matter has already been settled!

 

try to keep up, we're kind of a big deal, k?

 

You're lucky I like you.

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You're lucky I like you.

Wait, you like this mother!@#$er but not me?

 

Fine, go hang out with your new best friend, Hereno. See if I care.

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lmao

 

this thread was a trainwreck of try-hard in and of itself, but this PM makes the entire thing worth it

 

HOW DARE YOU DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY NORMS YOU ARE LITERALLY A MONSTER

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This thread is pdumb, especially now that Pre is in it.

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