BrythonLexi Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, Audon said: Marxists aren't good people. Marxists and National Socialists both. I detest them. Imagine thinking Marxists are all leftists, or the same thing as National "Socialists" lmao. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emperor Adam Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 Leave it to certain people to derail an IC convo into OOC politics. Let's stick to laughing at the micro for basically signing a suicide pact instead of whatever this is thanks. 1 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Schmo Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Emperor Adam said: Leave it to certain people to derail an IC convo into OOC politics. Let's stick to laughing at the micro for basically signing a suicide pact instead of whatever this is thanks. tl:dr tiny micro commits suicide via DoE sans prot 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audon Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, Emperor Adam said: Leave it to certain people to derail an IC convo into OOC politics. Let's stick to laughing at the micro for basically signing a suicide pact instead of whatever this is thanks. They're the ones that called themselves actual leftists. So clearly they are pushing a narrative that they are serious about their ideology and not joking online about it. Unless they feel like saying they're kidding right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronan_iroha Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 are you trying to recruit using this, by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Innocent III Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Audon said: They're the ones that called themselves actual leftists. So clearly they are pushing a narrative that they are serious about their ideology and not joking online about it. Unless they feel like saying they're kidding right now. We are not kidding. Idrc if you have a problem with the notion that people should be treated equally regardless of their class, race, sexuality, gender, etc. 1 minute ago, ronan_iroha said: are you trying to recruit using this, by any chance? Not really but if someone sees this and wants to join we welcome it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audon Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, Pope Innocent III said: We are not kidding. Idrc if you have a problem with the notion that people should be treated equally regardless of their class, race, sexuality, gender, etc. That's just it. Marxists have a history of claiming to want equality, but they have a history of not actually being all about equality. It always devolves into a dictatorship. There's always another Stalin, another Mao, looking for the opportunity to seize control. Your ideology on paper sounds good. But in practice it's attempted implementation has failed and resulted in the deaths of many people. Yours is a flawed and failed ideology. People think I'm overreacting, that I am a foolish laughing stock, but people like you have the potential to brainwash and convert others on the internet to your failed ideology. Your ideology is, in the end, harmful and wasteful of human life. 4 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrythonLexi Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 Just now, Audon said: That's just it. Marxists have a history of claiming to want equality, but they have a history of not actually being all about equality. It always devolves into a dictatorship. There's always another Stalin, another Mao, looking for the opportunity to seize control. Your ideology on paper sounds good. But in practice it's attempted implementation has failed and resulted in the deaths of many people. Yours is a flawed and failed ideology. People think I'm overreacting, that I am a foolish laughing stock, but people like you have the potential to brainwash and convert others on the internet to your failed ideology. Your ideology is, in the end, harmful and wasteful of human life. A. Please bring this OOC politics out of IC stuff. B. Not all leftist ideaologies are Marxism. Stalin and Mao have leftist ideaologies named after themselves for crying out loud; and your entire argument completely ignores the entire anarchist branch of leftist beliefs. Please, for everyone's sake, drop it. Insult the micro for not having a protector or being low city count or something, not for OOC stuff you don't even know about enough to academically debate on. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 This whole OOC argument is dumb anyway because classical Marxism is libertarian and "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" is Marxist-leninism which is authoritarian and at best a suburb of tankie-ville. Also it's Ultra Mega Super Saiyan dumb because it's a micro committing suicide. Just shutup and let them experience what it's like to be left behind like Catalonia :DDD 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksinky Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Pope Innocent III said: We are defensive in nature, we don't raid or partake in aggressive wars. However our sovereignty will not be handed on a silver platter. Can't see that ending well tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanJazza Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Hol up, aren't you some of the TARGARYEN people lol, and without a prot hm- Cheers Edited June 21 by TitanJazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillzBob Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Pope Innocent III said: "People curse the one who hoards grain, but they pray God’s blessing on the one who is willing to sell." - Proverbs 11:26 BOMBARDIER DECLARATION OF EXISTENCEFrom the beginning of existence Orbis has been divided into two very distinct classes. The very backbone of modern orbis’ functioning is built upon and necessitates the continuation of the two existing classes. The two classes being the ruling class or “bourgeoisie” and their subordinates known as “micros”. The ruling class of Orbis has consistently used the “micros” as pawns of their imperialist and egotistical wars and posturing. This has left micronations no other option but to either submit themselves to the authority of the ruling class or to raid their fellow proletariat nations for survival. It is this deep and long existing class struggle that leads us to bring Orbis one step closer to the union of all micronations. We believe strongly in the unity of the proletariat and all oppressed peoples throughout Orbis. The current state of all major alliances is either a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie by which the proletariat have absolutely no say in the affairs of their alliance, or they are anarchist in nature, engaging in piracy and stealing from their fellow proletariat nations. In our time we have also observed alliances which fly under the banner of socialism but make no strides towards the liberation of oppressed classes. Total liberation of micronations first begins with the acknowledgment first that the vast majority of governments exist for the exploitation of oppressed classes. This is what both Marx, Engels and Lenin would refer to as a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. We believe in a dictatorship of the proletariat, the micronations of the world, being the majority should yield their numbers to enforce their political might with one alliance acting as their vanguard and voice. The liberties of peaceful existence should be enjoyed by all nations and all people across orbis and the world. Discord: https://discord.gg/RCmEGrQStU Alliance Link:https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=8746 Don't listen to these guys. good luck on your new alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Louisiana Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 hours ago, Pope Innocent III said: "People curse the one who hoards grain, but they pray God’s blessing on the one who is willing to sell." - Proverbs 11:26 BOMBARDIER DECLARATION OF EXISTENCEFrom the beginning of existence Orbis has been divided into two very distinct classes. The very backbone of modern orbis’ functioning is built upon and necessitates the continuation of the two existing classes. The two classes being the ruling class or “bourgeoisie” and their subordinates known as “micros”. The ruling class of Orbis has consistently used the “micros” as pawns of their imperialist and egotistical wars and posturing. This has left micronations no other option but to either submit themselves to the authority of the ruling class or to raid their fellow proletariat nations for survival. It is this deep and long existing class struggle that leads us to bring Orbis one step closer to the union of all micronations. We believe strongly in the unity of the proletariat and all oppressed peoples throughout Orbis. The current state of all major alliances is either a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie by which the proletariat have absolutely no say in the affairs of their alliance, or they are anarchist in nature, engaging in piracy and stealing from their fellow proletariat nations. In our time we have also observed alliances which fly under the banner of socialism but make no strides towards the liberation of oppressed classes. Total liberation of micronations first begins with the acknowledgment first that the vast majority of governments exist for the exploitation of oppressed classes. This is what both Marx, Engels and Lenin would refer to as a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. We believe in a dictatorship of the proletariat, the micronations of the world, being the majority should yield their numbers to enforce their political might with one alliance acting as their vanguard and voice. The liberties of peaceful existence should be enjoyed by all nations and all people across orbis and the world. Discord: https://discord.gg/RCmEGrQStU Alliance Link:https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=8746 Didn’t you just leave an already failing alliance where you tried to start stuff with my alliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Raiding time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Innocent III Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 16 minutes ago, LunaHD said: Raiding time. oh noooo please dont raid me nooooo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) I see a lot of confusion, bombardier is a small micro that existed in 2018. Back in the day small micros like these existed all the time. They weren’t great but there were many of them. Edited June 22 by MinesomeMC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Adam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 hours ago, Audon said: They're the ones that called themselves actual leftists. So clearly they are pushing a narrative that they are serious about their ideology and not joking online about it. Unless they feel like saying they're kidding right now. I wasn't talking about you. 4 hours ago, legoboyvdlp said: Can't see that ending well tbh. More power to them for having an open "Frick the Macros" RP going on, tbf. It's interesting, even if a bit suicidal in nature given the target they put on their backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosta Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Why do I hear the Soviet anthem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eschatos Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Not that I have much hope for your survival, but good luck. Let's see if every other micro is doing it wrong and you're the only one to figure it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiya Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, MinesomeMC said: I see a lot of confusion, bombardier is a small micro that existed in 2018. Back in the day small micros like these existed all the time. They weren’t great but they were many of them. I knew I recognized this alliance name and flag! thanks haha Quote Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Innocent III Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Emperor Adam said: I wasn't talking about you. More power to them for having an open "Frick the Macros" RP going on, tbf. It's interesting, even if a bit suicidal in nature given the target they put on their backs. Quite the opposite. We believe in empowering micros."The ruling class of Orbis has consistently used the “micros” as pawns of their imperialist and egotistical wars and posturing. This has left micronations no other option but to either submit themselves to the authority of the ruling class or to raid their fellow proletariat nations for survival. It is this deep and long existing class struggle that leads us to bring Orbis one step closer to the union of all micronations." - Bombardier Charter Part I 3 minutes ago, Pope Innocent III said: Quite the opposite. We believe in empowering micros."The ruling class of Orbis has consistently used the “micros” as pawns of their imperialist and egotistical wars and posturing. This has left micronations no other option but to either submit themselves to the authority of the ruling class or to raid their fellow proletariat nations for survival. It is this deep and long existing class struggle that leads us to bring Orbis one step closer to the union of all micronations." - Bombardier Charter Part I https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XXdlRPQck5MmGB_mtLchllWaUJzymtZqVvkosxavkRE/edit?usp=sharing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 25 minutes ago, Pope Innocent III said: Quite the opposite. We believe in empowering micros."The ruling class of Orbis has consistently used the “micros” as pawns of their imperialist and egotistical wars and posturing. This has left micronations no other option but to either submit themselves to the authority of the ruling class or to raid their fellow proletariat nations for survival. It is this deep and long existing class struggle that leads us to bring Orbis one step closer to the union of all micronations." - Bombardier Charter Part I https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XXdlRPQck5MmGB_mtLchllWaUJzymtZqVvkosxavkRE/edit?usp=sharing your google doc link needs to be edited so people can read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Innocent III Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, chad said: your google doc link needs to be edited so people can read it. oops, try now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, Pope Innocent III said: oops, try now. there now it works thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indger Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 smh.lol Quote Legal Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily reflect of the opinions of my alliance, allies, enemies or neutrals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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