Lordship Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 So? BK aggressively attacked NPO so your MDP does trigger, it doesn't matter what the chain clause is - it's straight aggression and you avoided honoring your treaty with them. Nice job backstabbing NPO in support of OOC reasons. Congrats. Lmao you are literally the last person that can even begin to mumble the word backstabbing. Quote Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 A pleasure as always, TKR. Much love from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Word of advice? Just merge. It'll be a lot more honest. If you value T$ even above honouring a defensive call to anyone else, stop pretending and just merge. Defensive call? Made by who? Quote Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Lmao you are literally the last person that can even begin to mumble the word backstabbing. Way to dodge my post like you dodged your defensive obligations to NPO. 3 Quote Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryleh Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Lmao you are literally the last person that can even begin to mumble the word backstabbing. Then i will. What you guys decided to do is bull**** Have fun backstabbing the NPO. Hope it was worth it. Edit: Ad Hominum noted Edited June 15, 2016 by Goddess Hestia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenk Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 A pleasure as always, TKR. Much love from us. give em sum lovin Partisan. That's why they did it ayy lmao 1 Quote Formerly Ibnar / Qital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boony Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Forget treaties and cbs and everything for a second. You do realize that BK, TKR's bloc mate is also fighting with tS. Y'all are asking TKR to not help their two long held allies in order to help their single relatively new ally? That doesn't make sense. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Hippo Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Quote ^oo^ (..) () () ()__() Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Defensive call? Made by who? I'm not well versed in FA, but M stands for mandatory yes? 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Then i will. What you guys decided to do is bull**** Have fun backstabbing the NPO. Hope it was worth it. Edit: Ad Hominum noted What exactly is BS? That we defended our long time ally in tS? How did we backstab NPO exactly? Way to dodge my post like you dodged your defensive obligations to NPO. How did we backstab NPO exactly? I want you to really explain it to me Steve. You want us to counter BK, our blocmate/longtime ally who we have a non aggression treaty with? You want us to counter tS, our long time ally who we have a non aggression treaty with? 1 Quote Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Forget treaties and cbs and everything for a second. You do realize that BK, TKR's bloc mate is also fighting with tS. Y'all are asking TKR to not help their two long held allies in order to help their single relatively new ally? That doesn't make sense. Okay fair point, then why sign the treaty? Or why not just sit out and let your friends have a dust up, if they did value NPO? Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Hippo Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I'm not well versed in FA, but M stands for mandatory yes? So? BK aggressively attacked NPO so your MDP does trigger, it doesn't matter what the chain clause is - it's straight aggression and you avoided honoring your treaty with them. Nice job backstabbing NPO in support of OOC reasons. Congrats. Shut up Steve 2 Quote ^oo^ (..) () () ()__() Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan the Red Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Steve talking about someone dishonoring a treaty? #itshappening 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryleh Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Shut up Steve you don't get that we were PRE-EMPTED? Pretty f***ing sure that's not another treaty... Just an act of war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 All you haters are ridiculous. Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Summon the e-lawyers from the 7th Layer of Hell! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Okay fair point, then why sign the treaty? Or why not just sit out and let your friends have a dust up, if they did value NPO? We definitely valued NPO, but we also recognize that they have firmly entrenched themselves in the other side of the treaty web and that ending up on opposite sides of a war is almost inevitable. I don't see how us sitting out is any different than what we're doing now in relation to NPO? We're at war with VE lmao. You expect us to sit out when our bloc, tS, and Guardian are all at war just because we're on the opposite side of NPO? EDIT: grammar Edited June 15, 2016 by Lordship Quote Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boony Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Okay fair point, then why sign the treaty? Or why not just sit out and let your friends have a dust up, if they did value NPO? Well I'm not in TKR, but I can only assume that they wanted good relations with NPO or already had it. Either way, to help NPO they would need to attack tS or BK since tS and BK are the ones who hit NPO. They could sit out, but then there is a good chance two of their close allies get rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kastor Posted June 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2016 I'm not well versed in FA, but M stands for mandatory yes? Stands for mutual. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryleh Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 What exactly is BS? That we defended our long time ally in tS? How did we backstab NPO exactly? How did we backstab NPO exactly? Spirit vs Letter of the law. The fact that you have a MDoAP with all three combatants means at best you should have done nothing against ANYONE. Just sit the war out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naTia Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) I think it would have been the fairest if they just flipped a coin to decide their side considering only about 50% of people will agree with the decision anyways. Edited June 15, 2016 by Nao 5 Quote Resident DJ @ Club Orbis Founder of The Warehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We definitely valued NPO, but we also recognize that they have firmly entrenched themselves in the other side of the treaty web and that ending up on opposite sides of a war is almost inevitable. I don't see how us sitting our is any different than what we're doing now in relation to NPO? We're at war with VE lmao. You expect us to sit out when our bloc, tS, and Guardian are all at war just because we're on the opposite side of NPO? Your damaging the capacity of their allies to help them? This hurts NPO, don't try and pretend it doesn't. I'm just wondering why you even bothered signing the paper if it's worthless. Hell, the build up to this wars was at least a week long, just cancel the treaty and go in honestly. Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Spirit vs Letter of the law. The fact that you have a MDoAP with all three combatants means at best you should have done nothing against ANYONE. Just sit the war out. Riiiight, sit out and let tS/BK get rolled just so we don't end up on opposite sides of a war with an ally. /facepalm Quote Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan77 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Spirit vs Letter of the law. The fact that you have a MDoAP with all three combatants means at best you should have done nothing against ANYONE. Just sit the war out. A. It's non-chaining, so by technicality, we are allowed to hit a friend of a friend. B. We sort of have a major case of blue balls, so if IC had refused war their might have been a rebellion. Quote I don't sleep enough Also, I am an Keynesian Utilitarian Lastly, Hello world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadesflames Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) I think it would have been the fairest if they just flipped a coin to decide their side considering only about 50% of people will agree the decision anyways. Why, so people could complain about the coin obviously having been weighted? Edited June 15, 2016 by hadesflames 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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