Administrators Popular Post Alex Posted June 9, 2015 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2015 As of now, any use of a script or bot for automated trading is against the Game Rules. They have been updated to reflect this change. Automated Trading The use of any script, bot, macro, or other form of automated traded is strictly prohibited in Politics & War. These programs give players who use them an unfair advantage over normal players, and use of them is punishable by banishment. This change is to ensure that each and every player has an equal opportunity to buy and sell resources on the market. Players that can automatically buy up the best deals and sell to the highest buyers skew the experience for everyone, while giving themselves an unfair advantage. Not only is this simply a change to the Game Rules, this change also comes with automatic, random human verification. I will not get into the specifics of how players are screened to verify their identities, in an effort to keep would-be cheaters in the dark, but I will assure you that it is setup in a way that ought to minimize inconvenience to actual players. I apologize that this is going to be deterimental to your experience when trading, but I fear it is a necessary evil to protect the integrity of the game. To verify your identity, all you must do is a simple point-and-click captcha, no trying to make out fuzzy letters or any of that nonsense. The continued use of these trading bots is punishable by banishment. Anyone who is using one currently, I urge you to stop immediately. If you think you can get away with it, the new security measures out to stop your bot in its tracks. If you think you can outsmart the new security measures, know that I will be tracking trade activity, looking for "botlike" behaviors, and punishing cheaters accordingly. That's all. I hope you'll recognize this update for the important change that it is, even at the burden of a small inconvenience. EDIT: As a fun sidenote, I also added two new rows to Alliance pages. You can now see a count of Beige and Gray nations on alliance pages, as well as what % of the alliance they make up. I'm sure some stat freak somewhere will love this, and you may also enjoy watching enemy alliances' beige count/percentage increase during wartimes. 12 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alataq Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Glad to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan77 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 It's good, as long as you can genuinely tell the difference between a bot and someone manually making trades. Didn't even know there were market bots in action but I guess it was inevitable at some point. If there are, they aren't that advanced because good deals can still be had easily enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Good job Sheepy! Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Well done. I support your change fully. Proud Canadian, Proud Ontarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Wait. This was legal? I thought the use of automated anything had been against the rules since forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alataq Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Wait. This was legal? I thought the use of automated anything had been against the rules since forever It wasn't officially listed, however I am sure that if there was an obvious case of it, the person would be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarius Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Good change. Go team! o/ 1 http://i.imgur.com/K3xCRAP.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellUrGrlThx Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Good rule. I actually didn't know the market bots were real. ☾☆ Priest of Dio º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted June 9, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2015 As a fun sidenote, I also added two new rows to Alliance pages. You can now see a count of Beige and Gray nations on alliance pages, as well as what % of the alliance they make up. I'm sure some stat freak somewhere will love this, and you may also enjoy watching enemy alliances' beige count/percentage increase during wartimes. 1 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatnate Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 A good rule, I didn't realize this was an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seabasstion Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Looks like im back to the bookmark method ): I've told other people that may have been using my excel program that it is in Violation of the new rule. For anyone that doesn't know (i didn't publicize it but didn't hide it either) i built an excel program that would scrape prices and submit orders with macros the user would initiate. Definitely scripting but not botting I'm not going to pretend my method was previously a gray area but i will happily Comply with the new rules (and hopefully anyone else using my work). I'm sure im under close watch as it is. I've had suspicions about other users because i know how fast i can go with my program, and i see how fast others can be at times so i think this is good for the game as a whole. Bad for me, but better for many more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 As a fun sidenote, I also added two new rows to Alliance pages. You can now see a count of Beige and Gray nations on alliance pages, as well as what % of the alliance they make up. I'm sure some stat freak somewhere will love this, and you may also enjoy watching enemy alliances' beige count/percentage increase during wartimes. If you have an applicant that is on beige, will they show up on the statistics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan77 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 So automated trading is banned. That makes perfect sense and is a good change. How about scripts that add visibility of the markets and potential links to those markets? Ones where you would still have to buy/sell goods yourself. That type of script is useful as it saves going to each individual page to find out prices all of the time. They give a visibility of the market rather than an automated trade. If those are also banned, may I suggest that such a feature is added into the game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seabasstion Posted June 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hah! !@#$ you Seabasstion! Seems harsh coming from a guy that's begged for money from me several times but to each their own 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Was their an actual issue for this or did sheepy have an nightmare? Leader of UPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Clooney Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Thanks, Sheepy! Good change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalinar Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Nice change. Thanks Sheepy I will take responsibility for what I have done, if I must fall, I will rise each time a better man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblige Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frostsword Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 good update Frostsword is love. Frostsword is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restius Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Awesome change! Using bots for automated gaming actions is always something that should be frowned on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwise Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 It's about time. This was going on for months at least and I hope to see the market does better now that it's less convenient for the scalpers to rip everybody off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted June 10, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted June 10, 2015 If you have an applicant that is on beige, will they show up on the statistics? Nope. So automated trading is banned. That makes perfect sense and is a good change. How about scripts that add visibility of the markets and potential links to those markets? Ones where you would still have to buy/sell goods yourself. That type of script is useful as it saves going to each individual page to find out prices all of the time. They give a visibility of the market rather than an automated trade. If those are also banned, may I suggest that such a feature is added into the game? No, that type of thing isn't an issue. As long as you're still sitting there, at the computer, clicking the buttons and buying and selling yourself that's fine. When you do something like set a script to run 24/7 to watch for deals and snag them up automatically, etc. that's breaking the rules, and the new security measures should prevent that from being possible any longer. Was their an actual issue for this or did sheepy have an nightmare? As Seabasstion said, he had developed a script and was using it, and shared it with other players. It was something that I was aware of was happening, but it took me some time to come up with a way to enforce the rule. 1 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Good job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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