[RoH] All EVH Does is Lie

[Rein Dvorak]

11 hours ago, Firwof Kromwell said:

You've been on on the side that pulls the most dogpiles(Rose) for awhile you dipshit, maan you're really struggling you & Kastor hesus fricking krist😂

Do you even have a brain dude? Were you not the moron who stole safekeeping from several members from that shitty Las Vegas micro that you ran, which was in The Back Rooms?

Edited April 2 by Rein Dvorak

[Buorhann]

13 hours ago, Firwof Kromwell said:

You've been on on the side that pulls the most dogpiles(Rose) for awhile you dipshit, maan you're really struggling you & Kastor hesus fricking krist😂

Not arguing that point.  It wasn’t the topic of that particular discussion.

Reminder for you to go touch grass though.

[Firwof Kromwell]

5 hours ago, Rein Dvorak said:

Do you even have a brain dude? Were you not the moron who stole safekeeping from several members from that shitty Las Vegas micro that you ran, which was in The Back Rooms?

Mf, that was between Masked Titan & Frank. Me n Sam didn't steal shit. You're the moron making yourself an ass by assuming 

3 hours ago, Buorhann said:

Not arguing that point.  It wasn’t the topic of that particular discussion.

Reminder for you to go touch grass though.

it's still correlated to yall around Rose-sphere ass pulling narratives n war tides, your choice to w/draw

You & Dr James need to project way less, consider n take your own meds more. There's a reason why we did the co-op deal long after you weren't in gov power. You did very similar to what James did to TI's fa in TGH, don't work around it

[Kan0601]

8 hours ago, Dr James Wilson said:

You know, I’d love to respond to your unhinged comment, but in your haste to rush onto these forums to insult and belittle me your brain must have short circuited and stopped working even though your fingers kept typing.  Midgard (an entity which hasn’t existed for 2 years now maybe) did not exist at the same time as EVH considering EVH was formed by a merger after the block dissolved so I haven’t the slighted idea as to what the !@#$ your dumbass is talking about.  
 

Go take your meds you ignorant moron. 

First EVH is a merger between Aurora and CTO

Second One Day War happened when Aurora T$ and Sing sphere fought each other so back then it wasnt EVH yet. Rose Sing TFP war on T$ EVH was over the One Day War. 

Third EVH hasnt dont shit to Tyrion or TI since after their Merger between Aurora-CTO so basically if you are saying EVH and Aurora is not the same thing then why would Tyrion never want to work with EVH. 

[Buorhann]

2 hours ago, Firwof Kromwell said:

 it's still correlated to yall around Rose-sphere ass pulling narratives n war tides, your choice to w/draw

You & Dr James need to project way less, consider n take your own meds more. There's a reason why we did the co-op deal long after you weren't in gov power. You did very similar to what James did to TI's fa in TGH, don't work around it

You know what?  You should keep posting.  Your cheerleading for whomever is amusing.  It's amazing what stuff you pull out of your ass.

[Mystery Incorporated]

As someone who has been on both sides and is simply enjoying a retirement in pnw from both sides this is peak to watch

[Bobert]

the real question here is will Rosesphere and EVH finally get a room to relive all the sexual tension between the two

[Rein Dvorak]

On 4/1/2025 at 11:17 PM, Canbec said:

I feel like this argument would carry more weight if it weren't made by the person who led the alliance with the most net negative attacks per capita in his alliance's two most recent winning wars.

TKR is facing an enemy who is turreting, and they are airstriking cash - what is TKR's IA and MA even doing lmfao?

Edited April 4 by Rein Dvorak

[Canbec]

1 hour ago, Rein Dvorak said:

TKR is facing an enemy who is turreting, and your folks are airstriking cash - what is TKR's IA and MA even doing lmfao?

If I had to guess, I'd say a lot of people had fun airstriking infra or max navalling infra at the start of the war when Sing was zeroed with a ton of infra and we didn't have to worry about cycling. Just a guess though based on my own initial war performance. I have no excuse to make for those launching projectiles though.

Edited April 4 by Canbec

[KindaEpicMoah]

34 minutes ago, Rein Dvorak said:

TKR is facing an enemy who is turreting, and they are airstriking cash - what is TKR's IA and MA even doing lmfao?

Airstriking cash is a valid strat change my mind

[Rein Dvorak]

1 hour ago, KindaEpicMoah said:

Airstriking cash is a valid strat change my mind

All I remember from when I was a noob is whenever I airstruck cash, I was yelled at 😭

Oh, and being shamed for going over 2k infra, I deserved to be raided lmaoo

[Grave]

On 4/1/2025 at 9:03 AM, Rein Dvorak said:

No, he didn't.
Let's be real and stop pretending Kastor controls EVH and its end goals.
EVH had every intention of hitting TI long before any so-called "coercion."

And now? You're just scrambling to reframe this self-made mess.
The original DoW was already a spin job - so any reply from you, or Piggy is clearly going to be as well.

Own the decision. You had the intentions of hitting TI. Then acted upon it, and got shocked when you got hit harder.

 

 

 

Even if EVH only had sights on hitting TI , which I have no problem believing, I think the screenshots provided makes it very clear an option was put to them to go through with it ASAP  or get rolled.  

On 4/1/2025 at 9:12 AM, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

I feel like you may have learned this lesson, but don't ever let someone who is not in your alliance, or not allied to you coerce you into doing something you do not want to do. 

The answer to Kastor trying to get you to attack someone under threat, should have been hey Kastor !@#$ off, or well I look forward to fighting you guys, I guess its time to mill up.

Once they know they can bully you into doing what they want, you lose your autonomy.  That is one of the worst things that can happen to an alliance.  I would much rather eat an L than let some outside factor that gives 0 shits about my alliance threaten us into action.

 

While I will say 

The fact they didn't come to TI right away and look to attack TGH and co.  together rather than listening is beyond my understanding . 

 

That doesn't ultimately change that they were forced to act .

[Grave]

On 4/1/2025 at 11:22 AM, Dr James Wilson said:

Except that isn’t what happened here.  Not one legitimate threat was made towards EVH in any of the logs you posted.  Speculating on how a future war months down the road will go is not ‘holding a gun to your head’ it’s making an observation about something months down the road.  If every time someone said ‘well if you’re still in this position in the future you might get hit’ it was taken as a threat everyone would be at war all the time.  However, since you want to ‘go out with a bang,’ rewrite how things played out and help a Tyrion desperate to prove that TI is ‘back’ you cry victim and attempt your rewrite while Tyrion gets the war with TGH he’s wanted since they moved to yellow.  
 

The gun is a figment of your imagination created to coverup your own failures during that time and to give you common ground with TI.  
 

The fact is EVH hit TI because you wanted to, because EVH thinks TI is a joke, because they got thrown out by their old ‘friends’ and you saw an easy win against someone you loved to kick, poke and prod.  That you’ve convinced Tyrion otherwise just shows how Tyrion is so desperate to get in a fight to prove TI can fight.  So desperate that he’s swallowed his pride enough to work with an alliance he’s said many times that he would never work with and that he would love nothing more than to roll repeatedly.  

Come on James, the wording is just barely vague enough to not pass in a criminal court of law IRL , anyone who isn't biased can see the clear threats of aggression if they were not in A war, along with the multiple suggestions that it should be TI targeted 

 

 

Imo anything but directly challenging the legitimacy of these logs does nothing to disprove their points 

[Grave]

On 4/1/2025 at 9:40 PM, Buorhann said:

His Holiness King Leofyr of Starfel detonated a nuclear weapon upon your nation of Vanaheim. The attack destroyed 402.08 infrastructure in the city of ReinDvorak as well as 2 factory and 1 bank.
 

After the guy blitzed me and set the War Type on Raid.  This was on a 2750 Infra city and only managed 402 hit.

C'mon man.  There's lots of examples out there already.

 

 

Maybe if you didn't go for individual actions from individual members and actually showed a per player alliance comparison (even with elite alliances like KT)  your point would have any substance 

 

 

I'll wait. 

On 4/1/2025 at 9:03 AM, Rein Dvorak said:

No, he didn't.
Let's be real and stop pretending Kastor controls EVH and its end goals.
EVH had every intention of hitting TI long before any so-called "coercion."

And now? You're just scrambling to reframe this self-made mess.
The original DoW was already a spin job - so any reply from you, or Piggy is clearly going to be as well.

Own the decision. You had the intentions of hitting TI. Then acted upon it, and got shocked when you got hit harder.

 

 

Intention doesn't mean anything with the logs posted

 

Evh could've had a blitz planned out on their own and already sent out targets to all their members and these threats would still be considered them being forced to act and act against TI.

[WarriorSoul]

9 hours ago, Rein Dvorak said:

TKR is facing an enemy who is turreting, and they are airstriking cash - what is TKR's IA and MA even doing lmfao?

If in February you told me we would be sitting on a zeroed enemy for two months with basically no resistance and that our bored, nuke-happy members would only launch 15 projectiles, I would simply laugh in your face.

 

[Rein Dvorak]

3 hours ago, WarriorSoul said:

If in February you told me we would be sitting on a zeroed enemy for two months with basically no resistance and that our bored, nuke-happy members would only launch 15 projectiles, I would simply laugh in your face.

 

Are you serious? Launching just one projectile in a war like yours is the kind of thing that absolutely shouldn't be happening, especially not 15 times over. You're facing just one alliance dude. That's something MA should be all over, and the fact that it slipped through repeatedly is just baffling.

I'd be understanding if Singularity were doing things such as double buying consistently across multiple wars. But that's not what happened here from what I've seen, correct me if I am wrong though.

No alliance is perfect, and TGH certainly isn't either. But I am at least willing to acknowledge when we screw up. I respect Canbec for owning up to it. You on the other hand? Not even close. 

3 hours ago, Grave said:

 

 

Maybe if you didn't go for individual actions from individual members and actually showed a per player alliance comparison (even with elite alliances like KT)  your point would have any substance 

 

 

I'll wait. 

 

 

Intention doesn't mean anything with the logs posted

 

Evh could've had a blitz planned out on their own and already sent out targets to all their members and these threats would still be considered them being forced to act and act against TI.

Piggy getting upset over what she believed was some kind of deal, guarantee, or assurance EVH wouldn't get hit is on her. Without any formal agreement in place, that expectation was entirely misplaced from the start.

Edited April 4 by Rein Dvorak
I hate the forums

[Rein Dvorak]

2 hours ago, WarriorSoul said:

If in February you told me we would be sitting on a zeroed enemy for two months with basically no resistance and that our bored, nuke-happy members would only launch 15 projectiles, I would simply laugh in your face.

 

But it's okay, here's another perfect example of TKR's amazing IA/MA:

Thank you for making yourself an example, Warrior

Edited April 4 by Rein Dvorak

[Grave]

48 minutes ago, Rein Dvorak said:

 

Piggy getting upset over what she believed was some kind of deal, guarantee, or assurance EVH wouldn't get hit is on her. Without any formal agreement in place, that expectation was entirely misplaced from the start.

You're lacking the most basic literacy skills, as I said before, anything less than proving the posted screenshots are not real does nothing to challenge their 3rd CB

[ToxicPepper]

1 hour ago, Rein Dvorak said:

No alliance is perfect, and TGH certainly isn't either. But I am at least willing to acknowledge when we screw up.

Peak self-awareness from TGH gov right here. How can you be saying this in a post where you deny the CB against you and refuse to acknowledge that you screwed up?

[Rein Dvorak]

8 hours ago, ToxicPepper said:

Peak self-awareness from TGH gov right here. How can you be saying this in a post where you deny the CB against you and refuse to acknowledge that you screwed up?

Peak sensitivity from Toxic, as per usual. Let me know when you start charging rent man, I am starting to feel bad for you.
To answer, it's because the CBs that were presented are based on things taken out of context. Why take responsibility for something that wasn't our fault? We have already shown that EVH twisted context in their first CB. Common logic would dictate that other logs pertaining to their other CBs are being taken out of context and spun as well.

Edited April 5 by Rein Dvorak
Living Rent Free

[Firwof Kromwell]

50 minutes ago, Rein Dvorak said:

Because it continues to be taken out of context. Why take ownership over something which isn't our fault? We showed that EVH took things out of context in their first CB, common logic would dictate that other logs pertaining to their other CBs are being taken out of context and spun as well.

common logic would say those same logs are being used to give context to draw from, thanks for proving Grave & TP's point 

Edited April 4 by Firwof Kromwell
especially w/ a fruit basket of logs & essay of explanation set on a open forum

[Prophet of Profit]

On 4/1/2025 at 8:11 AM, Kastor said:

I plan to respond to your post later, but it’s crazy how you keep twisting this. No one forced you to do anything. 

Kastor must have the Yearly Awards committee ghost-writing this.

[Mayor]

21 minutes ago, Prophet of Profit said:

Kastor must have the Yearly Awards committee ghost-writing this.

Only been a few days, give him half a year to reply at least.

[WarriorSoul]

4 hours ago, Rein Dvorak said:

Are you serious? Launching just one projectile in a war like yours is the kind of thing that absolutely shouldn't be happening, especially not 15 times over. You're facing just one alliance dude. That's something MA should be all over, and the fact that it slipped through repeatedly is just baffling.

I'd be understanding if Singularity were doing things such as double buying consistently across multiple wars. But that's not what happened here from what I've seen, correct me if I am wrong though.

No alliance is perfect, and TGH certainly isn't either. But I am at least willing to acknowledge when we screw up. I respect Canbec for owning up to it. You on the other hand? Not even close. 

It seems like you are very bitter, and I wish I knew why, but I was poking fun at our more rogue members. Some folks just want a laugh. Sometimes people just do things. Maybe one day you'll understand what that's like!

 

3 hours ago, Rein Dvorak said:

But it's okay, here's another perfect example of TKR's amazing IA/MA:

Thank you for making yourself an example, Warrior

Ah, thanks, man. I really appreciate it. I had honestly kinda stopped logging in over the last week or so because things had gotten so dull around here. I should probably get on that before @Miller beats my ass.

[Mayor]

6 hours ago, Rein Dvorak said:

But it's okay, here's another perfect example of TKR's amazing IA/MA:
Thank you for making yourself an example, Warrior

In order to achieve perfect milcom obedience you need to purge inactive members and really be proactive in micromanaging the war. In all honesty I personally don't even bother in a finished war where the enemy is nuking; I don't even try to cycle as there is nothing the enemy can really do besides some rogue raids.

In alliances the size of TKR or Rose you are most of the time screaming at brick walls trying to get some people to listen to anything. I had to resort to threatening expulsion from Rose or threats to seize their bank deposits to even get people to log in to fight wars in Rose.

And that was when we were winning war after war.