[RoH] All EVH Does is Lie

[Kastor]

7 hours ago, EvilPiggyFooFoo said:

Actually, yes... it is Kastor’s fault if he tells me there’s a fancy sports car, puts a gun to my head, and says, “Steal it or I shoot you,” while also handing me the keys and laying out the entire plan from timing to target.

That’s not just pointing something out—that’s coercion.

I plan to respond to your post later, but it’s crazy how you keep twisting this. No one forced you to do anything. 

[Daveth]

10 hours ago, Elros Tar-Minyatur said:

(Translation)

Repeating bullshit so many times he's started to believe it himself.

As for TI:
!@#$ you TI, I want to see you get rolled! 😭

I get being a party man and all, but sometimes it gets astounding and scary to me how people deny what's right there in front of their eyes. 

Your man Kastor did it. Own up to that shit already and you'll probably come out better for it...

Edited April 1 by Daveth

[Rein Dvorak]

47 minutes ago, Daveth said:

I get being a party man and all, but sometimes it gets astounding and scary to me how people deny what's right there in front of their eyes. 

Your man Kastor did it. Own up to that shit already and you'll probably come out better for it...

No, he didn't.
Let's be real and stop pretending Kastor controls EVH and its end goals.
EVH had every intention of hitting TI long before any so-called "coercion."

And now? You're just scrambling to reframe this self-made mess.
The original DoW was already a spin job - so any reply from you, or Piggy is clearly going to be as well.

Own the decision. You had the intentions of hitting TI. Then acted upon it, and got shocked when you got hit harder.

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

I feel like you may have learned this lesson, but don't ever let someone who is not in your alliance, or not allied to you coerce you into doing something you do not want to do. 

The answer to Kastor trying to get you to attack someone under threat, should have been hey Kastor !@#$ off, or well I look forward to fighting you guys, I guess its time to mill up.

Once they know they can bully you into doing what they want, you lose your autonomy.  That is one of the worst things that can happen to an alliance.  I would much rather eat an L than let some outside factor that gives 0 shits about my alliance threaten us into action.

[Daveth]

1 hour ago, Rein Dvorak said:

No, he didn't. (Because I said so!)
Let's be real and stop pretending Kastor controls EVH and its end goals. (I did not have an admitted coalition and used that to threaten you!)
EVH had every intention of hitting TI long before any so-called "coercion." (Nevermind the resistance to it by multiple people in Government, including and not limited to Piggy's co-leader)

And now? You're just scrambling to reframe this self-made mess. (Dawg, we dropped the receipts, where are yours?)
The original DoW was already a spin job - so any reply from you, or Piggy is clearly going to be as well.

Own the decision. You had the intentions of hitting TI. Then acted upon it, and got shocked when you got hit harder. (Let me reset my back so you can stab it again... just a moment, please)

Careful about the Kool aid, it's not good for your health.

1 hour ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

Stuff

Preach, Ronny.

Edited April 1 by Daveth

[Uncle Frank]

kastor when the idea stroke him

[James II]

Is it ALL they do though? @Daveth and I engage in a 400 year old feud all the time. Hardly lying, except for his blaspheming!

[Xi Jinping]

1 hour ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

I feel like you may have learned this lesson, but don't ever let someone who is not in your alliance, or not allied to you coerce you into doing something you do not want to do. 

The answer to Kastor trying to get you to attack someone under threat, should have been hey Kastor !@#$ off, or well I look forward to fighting you guys, I guess its time to mill up.

Once they know they can bully you into doing what they want, you lose your autonomy.  That is one of the worst things that can happen to an alliance.  I would much rather eat an L than let some outside factor that gives 0 shits about my alliance threaten us into action.

You aren’t wrong. We shouldn’t have taken the path we did lol. Facing a coalition 4 times the size of your side when you don’t want your newly merged alliance to get rolled can be a b*tch tho. 

[Leftbehind]

17 minutes ago, Xi Jinping said:

You aren’t wrong. We shouldn’t have taken the path we did lol. Facing a coalition 4 times the size of your side when you don’t want your newly merged alliance to get rolled can be a b*tch tho. 

Didn't you guys merge like 6ish months before the war started though? 

[Dr James Wilson]

10 hours ago, EvilPiggyFooFoo said:

Actually, yes... it is Kastor’s fault if he tells me there’s a fancy sports car, puts a gun to my head, and says, “Steal it or I shoot you,” while also handing me the keys and laying out the entire plan from timing to target.

That’s not just pointing something out—that’s coercion.

Except that isn’t what happened here.  Not one legitimate threat was made towards EVH in any of the logs you posted.  Speculating on how a future war months down the road will go is not ‘holding a gun to your head’ it’s making an observation about something months down the road.  If every time someone said ‘well if you’re still in this position in the future you might get hit’ it was taken as a threat everyone would be at war all the time.  However, since you want to ‘go out with a bang,’ rewrite how things played out and help a Tyrion desperate to prove that TI is ‘back’ you cry victim and attempt your rewrite while Tyrion gets the war with TGH he’s wanted since they moved to yellow.  
 

The gun is a figment of your imagination created to coverup your own failures during that time and to give you common ground with TI.  
 

The fact is EVH hit TI because you wanted to, because EVH thinks TI is a joke, because they got thrown out by their old ‘friends’ and you saw an easy win against someone you loved to kick, poke and prod.  That you’ve convinced Tyrion otherwise just shows how Tyrion is so desperate to get in a fight to prove TI can fight.  So desperate that he’s swallowed his pride enough to work with an alliance he’s said many times that he would never work with and that he would love nothing more than to roll repeatedly.  

[Daveth]

19 minutes ago, Dr James Wilson said:

Stuff

Damn, you're still butthurt? I get you and logic are far apart on a good day, but it's pretty clear what Kastor was alluding to in the logs. I get you still hate us, so I can take your "point" with a grain of salt... you coming after TI, your former Alliance, though? That's just sad. 

Edited April 1 by Daveth

[Kan0601]

42 minutes ago, Dr James Wilson said:

Except that isn’t what happened here.  Not one legitimate threat was made towards EVH in any of the logs you posted.  Speculating on how a future war months down the road will go is not ‘holding a gun to your head’ it’s making an observation about something months down the road.  If every time someone said ‘well if you’re still in this position in the future you might get hit’ it was taken as a threat everyone would be at war all the time.  However, since you want to ‘go out with a bang,’ rewrite how things played out and help a Tyrion desperate to prove that TI is ‘back’ you cry victim and attempt your rewrite while Tyrion gets the war with TGH he’s wanted since they moved to yellow.  
 

The gun is a figment of your imagination created to coverup your own failures during that time and to give you common ground with TI.  
 

The fact is EVH hit TI because you wanted to, because EVH thinks TI is a joke, because they got thrown out by their old ‘friends’ and you saw an easy win against someone you loved to kick, poke and prod.  That you’ve convinced Tyrion otherwise just shows how Tyrion is so desperate to get in a fight to prove TI can fight.  So desperate that he’s swallowed his pride enough to work with an alliance he’s said many times that he would never work with and that he would love nothing more than to roll repeatedly.  

I remember back in Midgard TI also had a gun pointed at its head about the leaks on EVH that Rose had and also made a deal to cut EVH and get them rolled. Rose said "Well if you are still allied to them you might get hit in the future" I believe Midgard had a imagination gun pointed at its head too.

EVH had just cut T$ and only has Spec and KT as its ally at the time, It was clear Rose + coalition was in a position to roll T$ against after they couldnt in the One Day War. EVH was also allied to T$ in that war, basically Kastor said, if you stay still we will see you as a threat and most likely launch on you too. If you put yourself in their position EVH clearly has an imaginary gun pointed at its head. 

Now for the insults against you and you trying to ruin Tyrion's efforts

Spoiler

You leaving TI helped proved TI is back, because under your FA guidance TI was a shit show. From Oasis to Mystery Inc to Midgard, You are the most unhinged, !@#$ed, coward, !@#$ I have ever worked with.

 

[Firwof Kromwell]

Ayyrite, who let DrJames out of the basement behind me? 

1 hour ago, Dr James Wilson said:

deceptions, roll out!!

& how many times as TI secret treated Rose into a dogpile *cough* I mean war to fight for them?

[Buorhann]

34 minutes ago, Kan0601 said:

Now for the insults against you and you trying to ruin Tyrion's efforts

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You leaving TI helped proved TI is back, because under your FA guidance TI was a shit show. From Oasis to Mystery Inc to Midgard, You are the most unhinged, !@#$ed, coward, !@#$ I have ever worked with.

 

Militarily, TI is still a shitshow.  Not sure why people keep defending them.

[Mac]

11 hours ago, Firwof Kromwell said:

Boss, she ain't wrong nor rlly lying dawg

If someone tells a drug addict "Hey look at the big pile of cocaine over there nobodys watching it"

 

they're not guilty of doing cocaine but they are certainly not innocent

Edited April 1 by Mac

[naTia]

Backroom politics prank (gone wrong) (gone global)

[Xi Jinping]

4 hours ago, Buorhann said:

Militarily, TI is still a shitshow.  Not sure why people keep defending them.

TI has managed to go shot for shot with EVH and KT in this war. They are not a shitshow at all. 

[Buorhann]

3 hours ago, Xi Jinping said:

TI has managed to go shot for shot with EVH and KT in this war. They are not a shitshow at all. 

His Holiness King Leofyr of Starfel detonated a nuclear weapon upon your nation of Vanaheim. The attack destroyed 402.08 infrastructure in the city of ReinDvorak as well as 2 factory and 1 bank.
 

After the guy blitzed me and set the War Type on Raid.  This was on a 2750 Infra city and only managed 402 hit.

C'mon man.  There's lots of examples out there already.

[Canbec]

1 hour ago, Buorhann said:

His Holiness King Leofyr of Starfel detonated a nuclear weapon upon your nation of Vanaheim. The attack destroyed 402.08 infrastructure in the city of ReinDvorak as well as 2 factory and 1 bank.
 

After the guy blitzed me and set the War Type on Raid.  This was on a 2750 Infra city and only managed 402 hit.

C'mon man.  There's lots of examples out there already.

I feel like this argument would carry more weight if it weren't made by the person who led the alliance with the most net negative attacks per capita in his alliance's two most recent winning wars.

[Buorhann]

1 hour ago, Canbec said:

I feel like this argument would carry more weight if it weren't made by the person who led the alliance with the most net negative attacks per capita in his alliance's two most recent winning wars.

Which wars again?

If you’re referring to the wars that involved dogpiles, that’s a no brainer.

Edited April 2 by Buorhann

[Firwof Kromwell]

49 minutes ago, Buorhann said:

Which wars again?

If you’re referring to the wars that involved dogpiles, that’s a no brainer.

You've been on on the side that pulls the most dogpiles(Rose) for awhile you dipshit, maan you're really struggling you & Kastor hesus fricking krist😂

Edited April 2 by Firwof Kromwell
yeah no brainer since you barely use it to begin w/ too

[Alexio15]

To be fair the TI hate this war is unwarranted, I have to say I’m glad to see a far better performance. Given this is Mbakus first shot at the reigns with TI in a war the improvement is massive. Granted still some issues to iron out but overall so far so good. 

[Corvidae]

21 hours ago, Dr James Wilson said:

The gun is a figment of your imagination

You do realize that EVH got hit right?

 

This argument isn't in the hypothetical vacuum of "well maybe TGH will hit us if we don't do this." This is the head of TGH FA/current leader telling EVH leadership that he will cover for them if they get into a conflict and then in the same message paints TI as a perfect target.

 

The gun definitely existed and it was fired multiple times, to continue with your metaphor.

Edited April 2 by Corvidae

[Dr James Wilson]

20 hours ago, Kan0601 said:

I remember back in Midgard TI also had a gun pointed at its head about the leaks on EVH that Rose had and also made a deal to cut EVH and get them rolled. Rose said "Well if you are still allied to them you might get hit in the future" I believe Midgard had a imagination gun pointed at its head too.

EVH had just cut T$ and only has Spec and KT as its ally at the time, It was clear Rose + coalition was in a position to roll T$ against after they couldnt in the One Day War. EVH was also allied to T$ in that war, basically Kastor said, if you stay still we will see you as a threat and most likely launch on you too. If you put yourself in their position EVH clearly has an imaginary gun pointed at its head. 

Now for the insults against you and you trying to ruin Tyrion's efforts

  Reveal hidden contents

You leaving TI helped proved TI is back, because under your FA guidance TI was a shit show. From Oasis to Mystery Inc to Midgard, You are the most unhinged, !@#$ed, coward, !@#$ I have ever worked with.

 

You know, I’d love to respond to your unhinged comment, but in your haste to rush onto these forums to insult and belittle me your brain must have short circuited and stopped working even though your fingers kept typing.  Midgard (an entity which hasn’t existed for 2 years now maybe) did not exist at the same time as EVH considering EVH was formed by a merger after the block dissolved so I haven’t the slighted idea as to what the !@#$ your dumbass is talking about.  
 

Go take your meds you ignorant moron. 

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

1 hour ago, Dr James Wilson said:

Go take your meds you ignorant moron. 

You know i just watched some House Clips yesterday,  and Wilson would never talk to someone like that.  Be better.