[RoH] All EVH Does is Lie

[Kastor]

[RoH] All EVH Does is Lie

 

Event Horizon has consistently spread falsehoods, and the current allegations against us are no exception. Piggy and EVH wanted to target Immortals, using a weak CB as an excuse for their actions.

On July 8th, I informed Piggy that TI’s treaties had been dropped, leaving them isolated on the treaty web. Although I meant it as a joke, Piggy became anxious about Rose potentially signing with TI and began asking for assurances—which I did not provide.

 

 

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Two days later, on July 10, Piggy approached me again, worried about whether we or Singularity were planning to sign TI. By that point, Piggy and EVH were already looking for a target, and TI was at the top of their list. 

 

The thought that we pushed Piggy to do anything is moronic. Event Horizon has a history of joining wars and attacking for no reason. Their involvement in Dodge This, that started this whole drama, as they hit us as a protectorate of Singularity. Piggy is trying to claim that I’m the evil mastermind behind their actions, and as much as I’d love to be the shadow puppeteer, this was all her. She was already looking at you and was using me to position against you to hit you. She was always going to hit you. All she did since then was convince you that she wasn’t the master plotter. This is just the biggest spin job of the year.

There is no log of TGH directing EVH to hit The Immortals, and Piggy seemingly left this part out of her DoW, and likely the logs she shared with you:

 

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Now ask yourself- why would Piggy inquire about Rose or SING signing you if I directed her to hit The Immortals. The truth is, she was gauging out whether you were fair game to hit.

 

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Oh, and don’t think you were the only ones, Piggy was an equal opportunity attacker, she was feening to hit anyone. Even going so far as asking if TGH would honor a treaty. Again, unprovoked, Piggy is coming to me asking to attack people, I suppose she really did consider me the leader of EVH.

 

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On July 15, Piggy reached out for a voice call, where Xi hinted that EVH and Syndicate were splitting, expressing a desire to avoid war and reset relations. I clarified that high-level decisions weren’t mine to make but agreed to relay the message to Harry. I made it clear they would need to pitch their ideas to Rose and SING directly
 

The Golden Horde never instructed Dark Brotherhood, nor any of it’s allies ever to not aid The Immortals in their war. It was Piggy who made threats to our allies (Dark Brotherhood) and to The Fighting Pacifists through us. The notion that we stopped or halted anyone from aiding TI is a lie, which seems the norm for EVH. It was the opposite in fact, in which Piggy had lined you up and opened the doors for slaughter. 

 

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The truth is you talk about resetting relations, but you went out of your way to break a NAP with us and lied to our faces about your involvement. You spent billions on the Arrgh lotterie(s) during the NAP period, with the intention to target us and our allies, in direct violation of our NAP agreement. EVH has no honor, and you especially Piggy have no honor. You will lie and manipulate until you get your way. 

 

As you stated in your DoW, EVH is not perfect, far from it in fact, you have lied and manipulated your way at every twist and turn in your entire existence. You have misled and violated your word multiple times. There shouldn’t be any surprise that people don’t trust you to follow through on your word when you break yours so often.
 

As for the Immortals...

 

You guys have been duped, plain and simple. EVH, an alliance that has systematically and gleefully targetted you repeatedly since the break up of Midgard, who gleefully danced on your grave during your war with them, has managed to convince you, that they, an alliance who very frequently joked about hitting TI and had very obvious disdain for you, were masterminded into hitting you by evil old me.

 

In reality, they wanted to hit you, and they did. They came to me, in the midst of coalition plans against The Syndicate, and clearly afraid for their safety, started trying to find ways to avoid being hit themselves. I entertained the conversation, because EVH was clearly paranoid and likely to enter our war if I didn't.

 

You are free to be upset that we didn't immediately put down our coalition plans, to save you. But I wasn't signed to you, I had no obligations to you, and I had learned a lesson from last time we did that. Last time we entered for TI(albeit before TGH was remade) during the Midgard Civil war, to save you from the alliances that now make up EVH, you repaid that favor by giving assurances to TKR during Dodge This, which directly led to us being rolled. I can understand not wanting to get involved in that war, but giving assurances that would likely solidify it happening, and also not paying us the courtesy of a warning, was rather low.

 

Everyone in the coalition knew you did this. It wasn't a secret. Which is why when Harry asked for people to intervene on your behalf, no one wanted to. It's why no one signed you to save you. No one felt obligated to help someone who didn't repay the favor last time.

 

But that doesn't mean I made EVH hit you. That's ridiculous. EVH always wanted to hit you, specifically Piggy. A few screenshots of Xi crying about it don't establish anything. Those two disagree all the time. Piggy is known to be the ruthless one.

 

 

On August 7th, Tyrion and I shared a voice call, where I told him that I felt bad for him and what was happening. On that voice call I told you about someone in your alliance leaking, and we discussed your plans of putting your entire alliance in Vacation Mode, which I discouraged. We also discussed how my view of The Immortals had changed, and even though I had apologized to you before, I did so again, stating that my talks with the Immortals members and you had changed my mind. I said you were a strong community, and I respected you. On that call you agreed that we could reset, and that there was no harm done. During that call we discussed your merger offers, and I told you not to merge, reject the offers and if needbe, TGH would be there to have your back. We then discussed us aiding you in the war, and I told you it would be up to the coalition, but if we aided you, that it wouldn’t be my decision. You understood then that I didn’t run things, but somehow along the way you got lost in the EVH propaganda. I urge you to look at these logs and see reason. 

 

The Golden Horde recognizes hostilities with The Immortals, Event Horizon, Man I Love Frogs, The Republic of Libertas, Myrmidons, World Task Force, Vault-Tec, Knights Templar, Global Alliance & Treaty Organization & Spectre.

 

 

Edited April 1 by Kastor

[Sybreal]

I dunno man. That pig said Kastor Bad.

Edited April 1 by Sybreal

[AustinH]

Posts are finally becoming useful and not ai slop messages

[Namukara]

Are you saying that piggy told porkies?

[Elros Tar-Minyatur]

2 minutes ago, Namukara said:

Are you saying that piggy told porkies?

Piggy is lying through her teeth. The logs show that. 

[KindaEpicMoah]

Rose lies, TGH cries 

[Elros Tar-Minyatur]

EVH is pushing a false victim narrative.
TGH in no way, shape, or form coerced EVH to hit TI.
Piggy wanted to hit TI regardless of what we thought.
We betrayed no one here.

As for TI:
We had no obligation to defend you. You were not and are not our ally. 

Edited April 1 by Elros Tar-Minyatur

[Sybreal]

5 minutes ago, Elros Tar-Minyatur said:

Piggy is lying through her teeth. The logs show that. 

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

[Duluth]

I don't need to read this to know that Kastor didnt do this shit now.

Edited April 1 by Duluth

[Namukara]

2 minutes ago, Sybreal said:

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

You can take the Piggy out of Carthago but you can never take Carthago out of Piggy

[Elros Tar-Minyatur]

2 minutes ago, Sybreal said:

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

Lying on the internet? Completely unheard of.

[AustinH]

31 minutes ago, Sybreal said:

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

I think you just explained the Foreign Affairs department

[Mac]

This is some serious Politics and War 🤪

[Sketchy]

[Xi Jinping]

1 hour ago, Kastor said:

[RoH] All EVH Does is Lie

 

Event Horizon has consistently spread falsehoods, and the current allegations against us are no exception. Piggy and EVH wanted to target Immortals, using a weak CB as an excuse for their actions.

On July 8th, I informed Piggy that TI’s treaties had been dropped, leaving them isolated on the treaty web. Although I meant it as a joke, Piggy became anxious about Rose potentially signing with TI and began asking for assurances—which I did not provide.

 

 

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Two days later, on July 10, Piggy approached me again, worried about whether we or Singularity were planning to sign TI. By that point, Piggy and EVH were already looking for a target, and TI was at the top of their list. 

 

The thought that we pushed Piggy to do anything is moronic. Event Horizon has a history of joining wars and attacking for no reason. Their involvement in Dodge This, that started this whole drama, as they hit us as a protectorate of Singularity. Piggy is trying to claim that I’m the evil mastermind behind their actions, and as much as I’d love to be the shadow puppeteer, this was all her. She was already looking at you and was using me to position against you to hit you. She was always going to hit you. All she did since then was convince you that she wasn’t the master plotter. This is just the biggest spin job of the year.

There is no log of TGH directing EVH to hit The Immortals, and Piggy seemingly left this part out of her DoW, and likely the logs she shared with you:

 

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Now ask yourself- why would Piggy inquire about Rose or SING signing you if I directed her to hit The Immortals. The truth is, she was gauging out whether you were fair game to hit.

 

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Oh, and don’t think you were the only ones, Piggy was an equal opportunity attacker, she was feening to hit anyone. Even going so far as asking if TGH would honor a treaty. Again, unprovoked, Piggy is coming to me asking to attack people, I suppose she really did consider me the leader of EVH.

 

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On July 15, Piggy reached out for a voice call, where Xi hinted that EVH and Syndicate were splitting, expressing a desire to avoid war and reset relations. I clarified that high-level decisions weren’t mine to make but agreed to relay the message to Harry. I made it clear they would need to pitch their ideas to Rose and SING directly
 

The Golden Horde never instructed Dark Brotherhood, nor any of it’s allies ever to not aid The Immortals in their war. It was Piggy who made threats to our allies (Dark Brotherhood) and to The Fighting Pacifists through us. The notion that we stopped or halted anyone from aiding TI is a lie, which seems the norm for EVH. It was the opposite in fact, in which Piggy had lined you up and opened the doors for slaughter. 

 

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The truth is you talk about resetting relations, but you went out of your way to break a NAP with us and lied to our faces about your involvement. You spent billions on the Arrgh lotterie(s) during the NAP period, with the intention to target us and our allies, in direct violation of our NAP agreement. EVH has no honor, and you especially Piggy have no honor. You will lie and manipulate until you get your way. 

 

As you stated in your DoW, EVH is not perfect, far from it in fact, you have lied and manipulated your way at every twist and turn in your entire existence. You have misled and violated your word multiple times. There shouldn’t be any surprise that people don’t trust you to follow through on your word when you break yours so often.
 

As for the Immortals...

 

You guys have been duped, plain and simple. EVH, an alliance that has systematically and gleefully targetted you repeatedly since the break up of Midgard, who gleefully danced on your grave during your war with them, has managed to convince you, that they, an alliance who very frequently joked about hitting TI and had very obvious disdain for you, were masterminded into hitting you by evil old me.

 

In reality, they wanted to hit you, and they did. They came to me, in the midst of coalition plans against The Syndicate, and clearly afraid for their safety, started trying to find ways to avoid being hit themselves. I entertained the conversation, because EVH was clearly paranoid and likely to enter our war if I didn't.

 

You are free to be upset that we didn't immediately put down our coalition plans, to save you. But I wasn't signed to you, I had no obligations to you, and I had learned a lesson from last time we did that. Last time we entered for TI(albeit before TGH was remade) during the Midgard Civil war, to save you from the alliances that now make up EVH, you repaid that favor by giving assurances to TKR during Dodge This, which directly led to us being rolled. I can understand not wanting to get involved in that war, but giving assurances that would likely solidify it happening, and also not paying us the courtesy of a warning, was rather low.

 

Everyone in the coalition knew you did this. It wasn't a secret. Which is why when Harry asked for people to intervene on your behalf, no one wanted to. It's why no one signed you to save you. No one felt obligated to help someone who didn't repay the favor last time.

 

But that doesn't mean I made EVH hit you. That's ridiculous. EVH always wanted to hit you, specifically Piggy. A few screenshots of Xi crying about it don't establish anything. Those two disagree all the time. Piggy is known to be the ruthless one.

 

 

On August 7th, Tyrion and I shared a voice call, where I told him that I felt bad for him and what was happening. On that voice call I told you about someone in your alliance leaking, and we discussed your plans of putting your entire alliance in Vacation Mode, which I discouraged. We also discussed how my view of The Immortals had changed, and even though I had apologized to you before, I did so again, stating that my talks with the Immortals members and you had changed my mind. I said you were a strong community, and I respected you. On that call you agreed that we could reset, and that there was no harm done. During that call we discussed your merger offers, and I told you not to merge, reject the offers and if needbe, TGH would be there to have your back. We then discussed us aiding you in the war, and I told you it would be up to the coalition, but if we aided you, that it wouldn’t be my decision. You understood then that I didn’t run things, but somehow along the way you got lost in the EVH propaganda. I urge you to look at these logs and see reason. 

 

The Golden Horde recognizes hostilities with The Immortals, Event Horizon, Man I Love Frogs, The Republic of Libertas, Myrmidons, World Task Force, Vault-Tec, Knights Templar, Global Alliance & Treaty Organization & Spectre.

 

 

Just for the record: we didn't ask for a VC. I dread VC's and have only done two in five years of playing PnW. Ask anyone. It was an explicit request because you didn't want what you had to say be SS'd. 

Piggy didn't even participate in the actual talking as you would remember because she doesn't want her voice to be public/heard by anyone in the game. 
 

Edited April 1 by Xi Jinping

[Chara Vela Arch]

imo the only valid CB is "the NAP ended"

[EvilPiggyFooFoo]

Appreciate the response Kastor, good to see a real ROH rather than your RON claims about how this is all GenAI fake news. I am glad you've paved the path for more spicy logs.

Before responding to the wall of text, quick reminder that EVH's DoW consists 3 main layers:

1. Rose broke its promise to reset relations with EVH and joined a coalition four times our size to dogpile us.

2. TGH did the same—promised a reset, then piled on.

3. TGH coerced EVH into attacking TI. To quote Kastor: "If you're not involved in a conflict [with TI] and you're just sitting there when we hit SAIL with everything else that's going on... we probably would lump you guys in together [and attack you too]."

Kastor’s RoH only addresses the third point. So even if you believe his entire RoH, EVH still holds two very legitimate CBs for this war.

 

Onto the fun... Kastor’s main argument is that EVH always wanted to hit TI, and TGH just went along for the ride as an innocent bystander. A few quick responses:

• The first time TI was even on our radar was when you said, “If you look at the treaty map, you’ll see something… if you decide to act on it…"
• Yes, we considered TI as a possible target, but there were serious disagreements internally (just look at the chats between Xi and me). The reason the war actually happened—the tipping point—was when you told us: “If you're not involved in a conflict [with TI] and you're just sitting there when we hit SAIL… we’d probably lump you guys in too.”

Here’s an analogy: picking up an item at a store and checking the price doesn’t mean you were going to buy it. You're just mildly interested. It’s only when you put it in your cart that the decision is made.

Same with TI—we considered it, like we did with many potential targets, but what pushed us to go through with it was you making it clear that not going to war vs TI meant getting rolled.

• Let me drop more logs in here to establish TGH as the catalyst for the war. (Spicy deets, view here)
  • In these logs, Kastor: 1.) Tells EVH that if we don’t hit TI, we’ll get rolled 2.) Pushes for the war to last from August to September 3.) Instructs us to hit TI's protectorates because “they’re fricking annoying” 4.) Literally admits he “pushed this [hit]”
  • Yes Kastor, these are all words of an innocent bystander who had no role 🙄

Spoiler

Another screenshot of the transcript with Kastor explicitly saying that EVH is going to be rolled, and that the only way out is to hit TI

Kastor setting a timeline for EVH's war on TI (August to September) and stating that he ran the plan by Rose and SIN.

Kastor again, establishing what date we should go in (the war started the 3rd). When Xi says he feels bad, Kastor says "!@#$ TI"

Kastor explaining his reasoning for why he gave us that timeline.

Oh here's another fun one, Kastor wanting us to hit every single one of TI's prots. And him admitting himself that he "pushed this [hit]"

Oh and Kastor, before you say this was all an AI generated transcript, here is a screenshot of you telling us to change the timeline after the VC.

Your entire ROH is predicated on the idea of "EVH was already interested in TI so it isn't my fault!". But TGH’s pressure is what turned mild interest into actual action and catalyzed the war.

 

While we are at it, let's go line by line at some of Kastor's inconsistencies. I will show you screenshots contracting his own words.

Lie: "On July 15, Piggy reached out for a voice call"

Spoiler

Kastor spins this to make it seem like EVH initiated the VC, trying to frame us as the ones who reached out with a plan in hand. But let’s be real:

1. The screenshot above which led to the VC was literally initiated by Kastor
2. Xi and I rarely do VCs... and Kastor is one of the most notorious talk show VC yappers in PnW. Who did you think initiated the call?

Lie: "The Golden Horde never instructed Dark Brotherhood, nor any of it’s allies ever to not aid The Immortals in their war"

Spoiler

Kastor "made sure" that TI would not have any M-level treaties. If that is not the definition of obstruction, I don't know what is.

Hypocrisy: "in direct violation of our NAP agreement, EVH has no honor, and you especially Piggy have no honor."

Spoiler

Remember that time when TGH tried to spend $2.5 billion to hire Spanky of all people to nuke T$ in violation of a NAP? Pepperidge farm remembers.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1810NX7Gf_oKnLQjyjjYwzUwa06LFhLMti8_9ZXAB2U8/edit?usp=sharing

Lie: "I told him that I felt bad for him and what was happening." "I said you were a strong community, and I respected you."

Spoiler

See logs above of Kastor laughing about TI and how much he dislikes them. Clearly a man that feels bad for TI would want us to 1.) Hit them 2.) Hit all their prots and 3.) Rant about how "fricking annoying" TI is. 

One more log for the road:

Yeah I guess he did feel bad. "I'm going to laugh so hard so I am going to feel bad".

 

Anyway, I’m not sure how anyone can take seriously a guy who contradicts himself every other sentence. And I really don’t know how you can believe he had no role in this war when he literally gave us a target, a timeline, and a threat to kick it off.

Edited April 1 by EvilPiggyFooFoo

[Xi Jinping]

16 minutes ago, EvilPiggyFooFoo said:

Appreciate the response Kastor, good to see a real ROH rather than your RON claims about how this is all GenAI fake news. I am glad you've paved the path for more spicy logs.

Before responding to the wall of text, quick reminder that EVH's DoW consists 3 main layers:

1. Rose broke its promise to reset relations with EVH and joined a coalition four times our size to dogpile us.

2. TGH did the same—promised a reset, then piled on.

3. TGH coerced EVH into attacking TI. To quote Kastor: "If you're not involved in a conflict [with TI] and you're just sitting there when we hit SAIL with everything else that's going on... we probably would lump you guys in together [and attack you too]."

Kastor’s RoH only addresses the third point. So even if you believe his entire RoH, EVH still holds two very legitimate CBs for this war.

 

Onto the fun... Kastor’s main argument is that EVH always wanted to hit TI, and TGH just went along for the ride as an innocent bystander. A few quick responses:

• The first time TI was even on our radar was when you said, “If you look at the treaty map, you’ll see something… if you decide to act on it…"
• Yes, we considered TI as a possible target, but there were serious disagreements internally (just look at the chats between Xi and me). The reason the war actually happened—the tipping point—was when you told us: “If you're not involved in a conflict [with TI] and you're just sitting there when we hit SAIL… we’d probably lump you guys in too.”

Here’s an analogy: picking up an item at a store and checking the price doesn’t mean you were going to buy it. You're just mildly interested. It’s only when you put it in your cart that the decision is made.

Same with TI—we considered it, like we did with many potential targets, but what pushed us to go through with it was you making it clear that not going to war vs TI meant getting rolled.

• Let me drop more logs in here to establish TGH as the catalyst for the war. (Spicy deets, view here)
  • In these logs, Kastor: 1.) Tells EVH that if we don’t hit TI, we’ll get rolled 2.) Pushes for the war to last from August to September 3.) Instructs us to hit TI's protectorates because “they’re fricking annoying” 4.) Literally admits he “pushed this [hit]”
  • Yes Kastor, these are all words of an innocent bystander who had no role 🙄

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Another screenshot of the transcript with Kastor explicitly saying that EVH is going to be rolled, and that the only way out is to hit TI

Kastor setting a timeline for EVH's war on TI (August to September) and stating that he ran the plan by Rose and SIN.

Kastor again, establishing what date we should go in (the war started the 3rd). When Xi says he feels bad, Kastor says "!@#$ TI"

Kastor explaining his reasoning for why he gave us that timeline.

Oh here's another fun one, Kastor wanting us to hit every single one of TI's prots. And him admitting himself that he "pushed this [hit]"

Oh and Kastor, before you say this was all an AI generated transcript, here is a screenshot of you telling us to change the timeline after the VC.

Your entire ROH is predicated on the idea of "EVH was already interested in TI so it isn't my fault!". But TGH’s pressure is what turned mild interest into actual action and catalyzed the war.

 

While we are at it, let's go line by line at some of Kastor's inconsistencies. I will show you screenshots contracting his own words.

Lie: "On July 15, Piggy reached out for a voice call"

  Reveal hidden contents

Kastor spins this to make it seem like EVH initiated the VC, trying to frame us as the ones who reached out with a plan in hand. But let’s be real:

1. The screenshot above which led to the VC was literally initiated by Kastor
2. Xi and I rarely do VCs... and Kastor is one of the most notorious talk show VC yappers in PnW. Who did you think initiated the call?

Lie: "The Golden Horde never instructed Dark Brotherhood, nor any of it’s allies ever to not aid The Immortals in their war"

  Reveal hidden contents

Kastor "made sure" that TI would not have any M-level treaties. If that is not the definition of obstruction, I don't know what is.

Lie: "I told him that I felt bad for him and what was happening." "I said you were a strong community, and I respected you."

  Reveal hidden contents

See logs above of Kastor laughing about TI and how much he dislikes them. Clearly a man that feels bad for TI would want us to 1.) Hit them 2.) Hit all their prots and 3.) Rant about how "fricking annoying" TI is. 

One more log for the road:

Yeah I guess he did feel bad. "I'm going to laugh so hard so I am going to feel bad".

 

Anyway, I’m not sure how anyone can take seriously a guy who contradicts himself every other sentence. And I really don’t know how you can believe he had no role in this war when he literally gave us a target, a timeline, and a threat to kick it off.

This should be its own post. Absolutely based

[Cooper_]

28 minutes ago, EvilPiggyFooFoo said:

Kastor’s RoH only addresses the third point. So even if you believe his entire RoH, EVH still holds two very legitimate CBs for this war.

This line is so PF-coded

[Rageproject]

24 minutes ago, EvilPiggyFooFoo said:

Onto the fun... Kastor’s main argument is that EVH always wanted to hit TI, and TGH just went along for the ride as an innocent bystander. A few quick responses:

• The first time TI was even on our radar was when you said, “If you look at the treaty map, you’ll see something… if you decide to act on it…"
• Yes, we considered TI as a possible target, but there were serious disagreements internally (just look at the chats between Xi and me). The reason the war actually happened—the tipping point—was when you told us: “If you're not involved in a conflict [with TI] and you're just sitting there when we hit SAIL… we’d probably lump you guys in too.”

Here’s an analogy: picking up an item at a store and checking the price doesn’t mean you were going to buy it. You're just mildly interested. It’s only when you put it in your cart that the decision is made.

Same with TI—we considered it, like we did with many potential targets, but what pushed us to go through with it was you making it clear that not going to war vs TI meant getting rolled.

Not an analogy at all…

But here’s a scenario for you:

Kastor tells you someone left their keys in their fancy sports car in the parking lot and no one is watching. You take the car. Later you get arrested because your face was caught on a camera that Kastor didn’t warn you was there.

Is that Kastor’s fault too?

[EvilPiggyFooFoo]

30 minutes ago, Rageproject said:

Not an analogy at all…

But here’s a scenario for you:

Kastor tells you someone left their keys in their fancy sports car in the parking lot and no one is watching. You take the car. Later you get arrested because your face was caught on a camera that Kastor didn’t warn you was there.

Is that Kastor’s fault too?

Actually, yes... it is Kastor’s fault if he tells me there’s a fancy sports car, puts a gun to my head, and says, “Steal it or I shoot you,” while also handing me the keys and laying out the entire plan from timing to target.

That’s not just pointing something out—that’s coercion.

[Firwof Kromwell]

3 hours ago, Rageproject said:

Not an analogy at all…

But here’s a scenario for you:

Kastor tells you someone left their keys in their fancy sports car in the parking lot and no one is watching. You take the car. Later you get arrested because your face was caught on a camera that Kastor didn’t warn you was there.

Is that Kastor’s fault too?

Boss, she ain't wrong nor rlly lying dawg

[Mohammad]

4 hours ago, EvilPiggyFooFoo said:

Appreciate the response Kastor, good to see a real ROH rather than your RON claims about how this is all GenAI fake news. I am glad you've paved the path for more spicy logs.

Before responding to the wall of text, quick reminder that EVH's DoW consists 3 main layers:

1. Rose broke its promise to reset relations with EVH and joined a coalition four times our size to dogpile us.

2. TGH did the same—promised a reset, then piled on.

3. TGH coerced EVH into attacking TI. To quote Kastor: "If you're not involved in a conflict [with TI] and you're just sitting there when we hit SAIL with everything else that's going on... we probably would lump you guys in together [and attack you too]."

Kastor’s RoH only addresses the third point. So even if you believe his entire RoH, EVH still holds two very legitimate CBs for this war.

 

Onto the fun... Kastor’s main argument is that EVH always wanted to hit TI, and TGH just went along for the ride as an innocent bystander. A few quick responses:

• The first time TI was even on our radar was when you said, “If you look at the treaty map, you’ll see something… if you decide to act on it…"
• Yes, we considered TI as a possible target, but there were serious disagreements internally (just look at the chats between Xi and me). The reason the war actually happened—the tipping point—was when you told us: “If you're not involved in a conflict [with TI] and you're just sitting there when we hit SAIL… we’d probably lump you guys in too.”

Here’s an analogy: picking up an item at a store and checking the price doesn’t mean you were going to buy it. You're just mildly interested. It’s only when you put it in your cart that the decision is made.

Same with TI—we considered it, like we did with many potential targets, but what pushed us to go through with it was you making it clear that not going to war vs TI meant getting rolled.

• Let me drop more logs in here to establish TGH as the catalyst for the war. (Spicy deets, view here)
  • In these logs, Kastor: 1.) Tells EVH that if we don’t hit TI, we’ll get rolled 2.) Pushes for the war to last from August to September 3.) Instructs us to hit TI's protectorates because “they’re fricking annoying” 4.) Literally admits he “pushed this [hit]”
  • Yes Kastor, these are all words of an innocent bystander who had no role 🙄

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Another screenshot of the transcript with Kastor explicitly saying that EVH is going to be rolled, and that the only way out is to hit TI

Kastor setting a timeline for EVH's war on TI (August to September) and stating that he ran the plan by Rose and SIN.

Kastor again, establishing what date we should go in (the war started the 3rd). When Xi says he feels bad, Kastor says "!@#$ TI"

Kastor explaining his reasoning for why he gave us that timeline.

Oh here's another fun one, Kastor wanting us to hit every single one of TI's prots. And him admitting himself that he "pushed this [hit]"

Oh and Kastor, before you say this was all an AI generated transcript, here is a screenshot of you telling us to change the timeline after the VC.

Your entire ROH is predicated on the idea of "EVH was already interested in TI so it isn't my fault!". But TGH’s pressure is what turned mild interest into actual action and catalyzed the war.

 

While we are at it, let's go line by line at some of Kastor's inconsistencies. I will show you screenshots contracting his own words.

Lie: "On July 15, Piggy reached out for a voice call"

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Kastor spins this to make it seem like EVH initiated the VC, trying to frame us as the ones who reached out with a plan in hand. But let’s be real:

1. The screenshot above which led to the VC was literally initiated by Kastor
2. Xi and I rarely do VCs... and Kastor is one of the most notorious talk show VC yappers in PnW. Who did you think initiated the call?

Lie: "The Golden Horde never instructed Dark Brotherhood, nor any of it’s allies ever to not aid The Immortals in their war"

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Kastor "made sure" that TI would not have any M-level treaties. If that is not the definition of obstruction, I don't know what is.

Lie: "I told him that I felt bad for him and what was happening." "I said you were a strong community, and I respected you."

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See logs above of Kastor laughing about TI and how much he dislikes them. Clearly a man that feels bad for TI would want us to 1.) Hit them 2.) Hit all their prots and 3.) Rant about how "fricking annoying" TI is. 

One more log for the road:

Yeah I guess he did feel bad. "I'm going to laugh so hard so I am going to feel bad".

 

Anyway, I’m not sure how anyone can take seriously a guy who contradicts himself every other sentence. And I really don’t know how you can believe he had no role in this war when he literally gave us a target, a timeline, and a threat to kick it off.

As Xi said above, this needs to be a complete separate post!!!

 

also plz make detailed timeline with all the relevant screenshots and chatlogs.

#ReleaseTheKastorFiles

[Namukara]

I'm just glad to see a nice close war. We've not had enough of those lately. It appears it won't be done for me after the first round.

[DeathsGift66]