Cheedows Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 NPO is the only AA to use (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) as a point of reference for PnW events, then proceeds to call us salty for (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) events that only they brought up. I'm gonna be honest, I'm willing to bet 80% of BK have never even played (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) in their lives and those who do probably don't give a !@#$ about it which is why they moved on to try PnW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woot Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The day NPO joined the game, people in IRC were talking about it and I had to ask what (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 It has served us well for over a decade. YMMV So much for (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) NPO and P&W NPO being different organizations. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzers Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I surrender *Hey roq it's sarcasm dont cri Greatkitteh that flag is damn sexy where did you find it Quote Roll Squeegee pact with Redarmy and Ameyuri Blues Brothers pact with Redarmy Leader of the Elyion Resistance. If it's backed by NPO, you know it's evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Monkey Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 So much for (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) NPO and P&W NPO being different organizations. No NPO organization is truly separate from the others, especially in this case when most of their players are shared. NPO has the same attitude and the same culture everywhere it goes, it just usually has the advantage of being early to the party and relying on force built up before anyone figures out how they operate. Unfortunately for them, too many people here either already knew how they operate or saw through their crap and are not letting them gain the same position of power they have been able to reach in other games. Thus the probably 100+ pages of spoiled whining that they aren't getting their way. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Considering we were hit last war primarily because of events in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), it's pretty dopey to pretend we're the ones that brought that to the fore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Me Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Considering we were hit last war primarily because of events in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), it's pretty dopey to pretend we're the ones that brought that to the fore. Just because you guys keep saying that doesn't make it true. You were hit because of events in P&W and nothing else. So yes, you are pretty dopey. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 It matches the things yall said at the time. I realize you don't feel as though maintaining a consistent position will win you an argument in the moment, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Targaryen Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 It is adorable how Orbis thinks 3 and half weeks is a really long war. It's just like (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) in it's early days. As nations grow bigger though, wars last longer. It will happen here too barring regular resets. In the meantime, loving the tears from those who are so tired of this 'long ass' war. xD Roz Wei, would've been nice of you to considered our culture and if it would offend us, seeing as how we were supposedly on somewhat friendly terms and all. It seems like you don't care if we consider him a deserter or not, our opinion doesn't matter. Which it is your right to take such a position if you want just saying, it's not a real friendly one. I didn't know in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) wars mean a lot of nations going inactive, not building up to full military and still pretend to fight. I guess (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) should be a pretty boring place ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehreno Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Don't see the point. I mean, give em white peace, let them build a bit, maybe have some stockpiles and then attack again when there's actually some stuff to steal. That's just it, it doesn't really matter. Your only chance is our sphere breaking up. You won't win with the current set up. You had no chance starting this war either. Must've been aware of that. So the smarter move is to try to stay out of wars, build and see and hope the sphere breaks up. As I said, might happen, might not, but you're not even close to achieving what you want to achieve now. So either keep engaging us in war, making it impossible for the sphere to split, or just gamble and see if it happens. If the gamble doesn't work out, you'd find yourself in a war you can't win... kinda like now. Nothing gained, nothing lost. So there's really just two options here, one absolutely hopeless, one with some hope in it, however big you think that is. Fight a war we "can't win," now, or watch you try and roll us later when we have "stuff to steal." Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Fight a war we "can't win," now, or watch you try and roll us later when we have "stuff to steal." Right. Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeman4 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 This read needs to be mandatory reading for all new players... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyGeneral Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Black Knights & Allies saving NPO's members from terrible leadership since 2014! Ill give them this though they wont give up which is truly honorable for themselves but they know they wont win. Everyone knows it. Their death is imminent! Just gives us more space too grow and makes our allies and us stronger, plus in the lead. Their regrowth will take forever! 1 Quote Goomy: *Hot Goomy is 5 miles away from you and looking to have some fun* Guilo: O.O Click bait is sooooooo tempting Aoi Toori: Well its Goomy, who wouldn't? If Dillon A McCann is Ted Cruz then doesn't that make him the zodiac killer? Rip zodiac #EndofZodiac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehreno Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Both Exactly. Where is the incentive NOT to war, when we both know that it is already in planning, by that previous post - to try and roll us again as soon as we have any stockpiles. Edited October 10, 2016 by tehreno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Exactly. Where is the incentive NOT to war, when we both know that it is already in planning, by that previous post - to try and roll us again as soon as we have any stockpiles. There isn't any incentive, keep going fam Fight the good fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehreno Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 There isn't any incentive, keep going fam You have just hit on the key point, as to why, IMHO this war is still going. There is no incentive for either side to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiki Mod Dr Rush Posted October 10, 2016 Wiki Mod Share Posted October 10, 2016 Actually both sides have reasons to peace out, they just don't feel the terms available are worth it. Your side is getting its body parts forcibly rearranged. Ours is bored with grinding improvements down. Quote 23:38 Skable that's why we don't want Rose involved, so we can take the m all for ourselves 23:39 [] but Mensa is the cute girl at the school dance and she's only dancing with us right now to get our friend jealous 23:39 [] If Rose comes in and gives Mensa what she wants, she'll just toss us aside and forget we ever existed 23:39 zombie_lanae yeah I do hope we can keep having them all to ourselves 23:40 zombie_lanae I know it's selfish but I want all their love 6:55 PM <+Isolatar> Praise Dio Pubstomper|BNC [20:01:55] Rose wouldn't plan a hit on Mensa because it would be !@#$ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiber Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I can only imagine the NPO leadership right now on their forums madly typing another intimidating post about the consequences of leaving or whatever. Chances that it'll work? 100%. Does this make BK look better as an alliance? Definitely not. I mean, looking better was not our goal. How could we even look better when we are already the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehreno Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Actually both sides have reasons to peace out, they just don't feel the terms available are worth it. Your side is getting its body parts forcibly rearranged. Ours is bored with grinding improvements down. If being bored is a "reason" to peace out, then they should declare/offer a white peace, and be done with it. They won't, because there is no incentive to. Reasons are not incentive. Distinct difference, man. Edited October 10, 2016 by tehreno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiki Mod Dr Rush Posted October 10, 2016 Wiki Mod Share Posted October 10, 2016 Please read the second half of my first sentence. Also Dictionary Jedi please explain the difference in this context between incentive & reasons. Quote 23:38 Skable that's why we don't want Rose involved, so we can take the m all for ourselves 23:39 [] but Mensa is the cute girl at the school dance and she's only dancing with us right now to get our friend jealous 23:39 [] If Rose comes in and gives Mensa what she wants, she'll just toss us aside and forget we ever existed 23:39 zombie_lanae yeah I do hope we can keep having them all to ourselves 23:40 zombie_lanae I know it's selfish but I want all their love 6:55 PM <+Isolatar> Praise Dio Pubstomper|BNC [20:01:55] Rose wouldn't plan a hit on Mensa because it would be !@#$ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehreno Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Reason = Explaination Incentive = Motivation/Encouragement. The second half of your sentence is exactly what I am saying - there is no INCENTIVE because neither side sees a net benefit. There are lots of "reasons" like being bored though Edited October 10, 2016 by tehreno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyGeneral Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 War is inevitable. Both sides have reasons to fight whether one meaning more than the other. No matter what they fight for what they believe in. There is nothing greater! No need to fight over something so miniscule. Quote Goomy: *Hot Goomy is 5 miles away from you and looking to have some fun* Guilo: O.O Click bait is sooooooo tempting Aoi Toori: Well its Goomy, who wouldn't? If Dillon A McCann is Ted Cruz then doesn't that make him the zodiac killer? Rip zodiac #EndofZodiac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincinnatus Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Reason = Explaination Incentive = Motivation/Encouragement. The second half of your sentence is exactly what I am saying - there is no INCENTIVE because neither side sees a net benefit. There are lots of "reasons" like being bored though Kind of amusing to see a post making reference to specific definitions whilst also possessing a notable spelling mistake in the first line. Edited October 10, 2016 by Night King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehreno Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Kind of amusing to see a post making reference to specific definitions whilst also possessing a notable spelling mistake in the first line. Yeah, that happens from time to time. But if spelling is the only part of it you can complain about, then I must be doing something right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 It's adorable how you are yet again using (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) as a frame of reference when discussing PW occurrences and events. It's even cuter how you then move on to provide a (rather patronizing) value-based jugement of Orbis' players' use of historical PW occurrences and events as a frame of reference for their worldviews in PW. If this behavior is a part of the 'culture' which you mention as well, then you would do the world a favor if you would refrain from sharing that culture in the future. I do apologize to Orbis for the patronizing tone. The point I really wanted to get across is that NPO does not view this as an extremely long war. (yet) To us, Ryleh left early and is a deserter. Any alliance wanting to show us good will won't accept those who we consider deserters and we will return the favor in kind. That is our culture, our view, either you respect it or don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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