Hello to the Syndicate

[Prefonteen]

If that's not a DOW, it certainly sounds ominous and threatening. Since this is on the public forums, should this be considered an escalation to a potential conflict? 

 

And let's be honest here, TS didn't spike in score when Sparta's allies were building up. And I'm assuming that TS, being a top 10 alliance, isn't incompetent enough to see mass bulking and not bother militarization when TEst was "threatened." In fact, conveniently enough, it was only after Monday that TS suddenly had a spike in score. Oh? Do I also see a Mensa bulking on the 18th as well? Haha, and TEst demilling, and then being filled in at the potential "defense strategy" bulks back up on the 18th as well? The numbers don't lie. 

 

The reason for our spike has been covered by Roy and Phiney. Not sure if you were being deliberate there.

 

Regarding the statement: It is exactly as stated. A long, drawn out reply will be made. It's on the public forum because your leader halfwittingly decided to drag it there.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Partisan

[Buorhann]

>tfw you see Partisan has replied and thinking a wall of text was posted, but wasn't

[Caecus]

It's a 2.2k drop from TEst score, but a 16k increase in TS's score. Where did the other 14k come from?

[Bambino]

The reason for our spike has been covered by Roy and Phiney. Not sure if you were being deliberate there.

 

Regarding the statement: It is exactly as stated. A long, drawn out reply will be made. It's on the public forum because your leader halfwittingly decided to drag it there.

 

http://i.imgur.com/S6HAKVZ.gifv

[Tim Armstrong]

Such a short thread for the intense passive aggressive seething. I am disappoint.

 

#pastebinftw

[Peacockpenguin]

It's a 2.2k drop from TEst score, but a 16k increase in TS's score. Where did the other 14k come from?

 

I didn't see anyone say this but it looks like the spike in TS's score also coincided with the disbanding of TKP. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Vosunda]

I didn't see anyone say this but it looks like the spike in TS's score also coincided with the disbanding of TKP. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

They have a net avg military score gain too.

Not that that's saying that much, seeing as Alpha does too.

But it does show that their score gain isn't just TKP.

[Memph]

It's a 2.2k drop from TEst score, but a 16k increase in TS's score. Where did the other 14k come from?

I think they gained another 1-2 big nations yesterday. Are you suggesting they started militarizing on Monday or today?

[Moreau]

My DoW's are never that small. So no, it is not.

 

Was that a teaser of a DoW to come?

[Prefonteen]

I'm sorry to clutter up the forums, but tS isn't really in the mood to talk to Alpha privately right now, so it seems. If you read the logs you can understand why.

 

 

Dear Placentica, we have reviewed your message and the relevant logs in which you contacted Roy Mustang, our head of Internal Affairs. We would like to take this time to make you aware of the fact that when it comes to FA-related inquiries, it is often a better idea to contact me, our head of External Affairs. Having once been our ally, I had hoped that you would have remembered this.

 

Please find below the full, undoctored logs of your inquiry for reference:

 

<Roy_Mustang> [23:54] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> I'm sure you know why I'm here.

<Roy_Mustang> [23:54] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Care to explain?

<Roy_Mustang> [00:03] * You are now known as Roy_Mustang|Away

<Roy_Mustang> [00:04] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Alright, we'll just talk it to the forums.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:04] <Roy_Mustang|Away> I am away at the moment, your message has been logged ( away for 29 secs )

<Roy_Mustang> [00:04] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]>

<Roy_Mustang> [00:04] <Roy_Mustang|Away> I am away at the moment, your message has been logged ( away for 30 secs )

<Roy_Mustang> [00:04] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> That is your style anyway.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:04] <Roy_Mustang|Away> I am away at the moment, your message has been logged ( away for 39 secs )

<Roy_Mustang> [00:27] * You are now known as Roy_Mustang

<Roy_Mustang> [00:28] <Roy_Mustang> ah, I see you've become acquainted with my new auto-away script. I don't think I like it though, it amsgs my status and I hate amsg

<Roy_Mustang> [00:29] <Roy_Mustang> cute veiled threat while I was away though, I'll give you that

<Roy_Mustang> [00:31] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Not a threat.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:31] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Just an acknowledgement of what is happening.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:31] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> So care to explain?

<Roy_Mustang> [00:31] <Roy_Mustang> I meant the "take it to the forums" bit

<Roy_Mustang> [00:31] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> That's a threat?

<Roy_Mustang> [00:32] <Roy_Mustang> maybe more a promise, i dunno, don't really care either

<Roy_Mustang> [00:33] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> http://pastebin.com/8EtMutDn

<Roy_Mustang> [00:33] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Please explain, thanks.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:33] <Roy_Mustang> it's not as if the entirety of Orbis hasn't already seen the logdump you're referring to

<Roy_Mustang> [00:33] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Then I'm sure you have a good answer.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:34] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> And who haven't you offered a treaty to?  Did GPA even turn you down?

<Roy_Mustang> [00:35] <Roy_Mustang> is that how we're going to start this off? really? lol

<Roy_Mustang> [00:35] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Okay sure, I'll start.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:36] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> We haven't been bad mouthing you.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:36] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Nor have we been mobilizing support.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:36] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> I don't give a shit about tS.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:36] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> I've told you this for a long time.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:36] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> But now I hear you guys are just going to attack us for shit that never even happened.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:36] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> So is that true or not?

<Roy_Mustang> [00:37] <Roy_Mustang> I'm gonna be blunt with you Steve

<Roy_Mustang> [00:37] <Roy_Mustang> Either Alpha is the victim of an Orbis-wide conspiracy to make y'all look bad, or you just recited a complete load of horseshit to me.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:38] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> So are you denying the logs are legit?

<Roy_Mustang> [00:39] <Roy_Mustang> I'm saying you just tried to feed me a pile of horseshit.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:39] <Roy_Mustang> And you know you just tried to feed me a pile of horseshit.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> I really hope you don't believe that.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Roy_Mustang> So if the only point of this conversation is to have a diplomatic pissing match, I'm going to bed.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> B/c remember we didn't even cancel our treaty.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> That was on y'all.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Roy_Mustang> And we can piss on each other in the morning.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> And I know you have been trying to run a PR train anywhere you can.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Roy_Mustang> Goodnight, Steve.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:40] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Okay, so maybe lets just talk about the logs.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:41] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> So they are real, huH?

<Roy_Mustang> [00:41] * You are now known as Roy_Mustang|Away

<Roy_Mustang> [00:41] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> Yea, I thought so.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:41] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]> See you on the forums.

<Roy_Mustang> [00:41] <Steve_Buscemi[NG]>

 

 

 

It appears that there has been a miscommunication: You interpreted Roy's 35 seconds of silence as being unwilling to talk to you while really, he was away from his keyboard. Please consider showing a degree of patience before making threats and taking the conversation to the forums- unless that is ofcourse your intent all along, in which case I would welcome you to stop wasting our IA official's time.

 

We will disregard your blatant lies for now, as they will be addressed in a later post. This post is mainly geared towards pointing out that our IA official has clearly stated that he was happy to continue the conversation the next morning, as it was late and he had other matters to attend to (read: Bed). Syndicate officials are not your personal lackeys and are not obligated to adhere to your time schedule. Had you waited patiently, Roy would have informed me and I would have taken the matter up with you.

 

We are understanding of the fact that you were looking to get a rise out of Roy (as evident by your various baits throughout the conversation) in hopes of gaining more incriminating evidence on the $yndicate as an organization. Your initiation of the conversation entailed the promise of an OWF topic, and our conclusion is that that was the purpose all along. Your repetition of that promise by the end of the conversation reaffirms this conclusion.

 

We acknowledge your faux attempt at diplomacy and realize that it is entirely in line with our expectations from you. These expectations are naturally based on your conduct in backrooms over the past 3 - 4 months. This conduct plays a large role in The Syndicate's motivation to secure itself from your hostility. 

 

Please be assured that Syndicate officials are working around the clock to adhere to your request for information on the current situation. We ask you for patience as our employees manually run through records of your infractions.  Manual labor was unfortunately required as the various contradictions between your statements over time have desynchronized Syndicate software.

 

Yours Ever Respectfully,

 

- Partisan, Chief Strategic Officer

Edited April 20, 2016 by Partisan

[Ivan the Red]

Care to explain, my old friends?

 

And now the abridged version:

 

- You backstabbed us last war.

- You have been actively antagonizing us since then.

- Your alliance started a military buildup which was not reverted after TEst explained it was all a Spartan drill.

- We are not idiots, so we make contingency plans and share possible war scenarios with our allies.

 

Now if you think those leaks you got from a certain alliance's Government Room gives you enough leverage to become the fourth alliance in a row to munster insurmountable odds against us and lose... then by all means, do it. It's not like everyone knows you have been looking forwad to it for months.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Ivan the Red

[Moreau]

Now if you think those leaks you got from a certain alliance's Government Room gives you enough leverage to declare on us and become the fourth alliance in a row to pre-empt us and get reduced to rubble... then by all means, do it.

 

But please, spare us the drama.

 

Is your use of the word "pre-empt" in regards to a hypothetical attack by Alpha on t$ an indication of guilt on the part of t$?

 

Now if you think those leaks you got from a certain alliance's Government Room gives you enough leverage to become the fourth alliance in a row to munster insurmountable odds against us and lose... then by all means, do it. It's not like everyone knows you have been looking forwad to it for months.

 

Is the fact that you've now edited out your use of the word "pre-empt" a further indication of guilt on the part of t$?

Edited April 20, 2016 by Moreau III

[Prefonteen]

Is your use of the word "pre-empt" in regards to a hypothetical attack by Alpha on t$ an indication of guilt on the part of t$?

 

Guilt of what exactly? Guilt of talking to close allies about potential scenarios involving a historically hostile party which has been attempting to isolate and attack you?

 

 

That is not a crime. That is prudence. Though I understand your frustration as an Alpha ally.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Partisan

[Moreau]

Guilt of what exactly? Guilt of talking to close allies about potential scenarios involving a historically hostile party which has been attempting to isolate and attack you?

 

 

That is not a crime. That is prudence. Though I understand your frustration as an Alpha ally.

 

Yet, you've failed to provide a shred of evidence to support your accusations against Alpha.

[Prefonteen]

Yet, you've failed to provide a shred of evidence to support your accusations against Alpha.

 

Patience is a virtue. I have already stated that a drawn out post will be made later.

[Ivan the Red]

This is all well and good but are we just going to slap each other with our dicks or are we going to kill GPA?

 

 

Yes

Edited April 20, 2016 by Ivan the Red

[Moreau]

Patience is a virtue. I have already stated that a drawn out post will be made later.

 

I hope you go further than attempting to dismiss the leak as "blatant lies" in your next post. 

Edited April 20, 2016 by Moreau III

[EliteCanada]

Patience is a virtue. I have already stated that a drawn out post will be made later.

 

The amount of people ignoring the multiple times you've said this and trying to stir shit and posture w/o a full explanation is sad. Wait till after the post pl0x.

 

http://pastebin.com/8EtMutDn

 

Roy confirmed as true Snake in the Sand. #rollroy2016

Edited April 20, 2016 by EliteCanada

[Spaceman Thrax]

Is your use of the word "pre-empt" in regards to a hypothetical attack by Alpha on t$ an indication of guilt on the part of t$?

 

 

Is the fact that you've now edited out your use of the word "pre-empt" a further indication of guilt on the part of t$?

 

Attacks on our alliance have historically been spun as pre-empts. We've actually never declared an offensive war in our history, which will probably come as a surprise to some.

 

In any case a more detailed explanation is forthcoming.

[Ivan the Red]

I hope you go further than attempting to dismiss the leak as "blatant lies" in your next post. 

 

Have you, by chance, found a single member of our alliance actually denying the content of those leaks? Or, actually feeling ashamed of them?

[Caecus]

Please find below the full, undoctored logs of your inquiry for reference:

 

 

See, what Roy should have simply said, instead of taking up so much damn space, is "No, those logs aren't true, I never said that, TS does not intend to roll Alpha." 

 

Instead, he dodged the question for a full hour and gave the impression that diplomacy is at an end. 

 

 

Have you, by chance, found a single member of our alliance actually denying the content of those leaks? Or, actually feeling ashamed of them?

 

This. Why hasn't TS denied the content of the logs? Why hasn't TS explicitly stated that they are not interested in a war between Alpha and TS?

 

 

So, I guess the question is, does TS intend to make peace with Alpha, or declare war?

Edited April 20, 2016 by Caecus

[Buorhann]

To explain The Syndicate's buildup of score:

 

-Just recently t$ acquired a merger with the company previously known as The King's Parliament

 

-TEst/Sparta saw Alpha and few other alliances build up, given the history of Alpha and t$ - naturally The Syndicate responded by ordering a military buildup on the side of caution

 

-Few members of The Syndicate came back from their vacation time

 

All of this was within the past week.  Seeing as how Alpha didn't decom after seabass clarified Prefontaine's statement, you think Syndicate's going to decom?  Hell no.

[Kastor]

See, what Roy should have simply said, instead of taking up so much damn space, is "No, those logs aren't true, I never said that, TS does not intend to roll Alpha." 

 

Instead, he dodged the question for a full hour and gave the impression that diplomacy is at an end.

 

You should reread those logs if you got that mate.

[Moreau]

Have you, by chance, found a single member of our alliance actually denying the content of those leaks? Or, actually feeling ashamed of them?

Yes and his name is Partisan.

[Moreau]

How about you two alliances just go at it? No others, just Alpha and The Syndicate.

No one else. At a date and time both agreed on.

Just... take it allllllll out.

No.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Moreau III